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[Dahkoht]

Navid A1, on 03 February 2016 - 05:56 PM, said:

Dude... please
I don't think i should tell you how much money i have spent on MWO. So save your breath reminding me why we buy pixel robots.

The thing i don't get with some of you people is that why don't you want a better deal?
If the whining can add a few extra bits here and there to the deal, then why the F* not.

I'll keep bitching for a better collector's deal ( i already have the standard). if the bitching can add some more extra things to the deal, then i will expect you not to buy it, ok?

There's the difference between us , I have no desire to beg and whine for a few cents here and there.

You think it's an acceptable thing to be a whiner for a few cents.

I mean , I guess some can live that way , just I'd rather pay 20.00 for something than 19.00 and not be required to whine , ***** , and beg.

[Ratpoison]

Dahkoht, on 03 February 2016 - 06:05 PM, said:

There's the difference between us , I have no desire to beg and whine for a few cents here and there.

You think it's an acceptable thing to be a whiner for a few cents.

I mean , I guess some can live that way , just I'd rather pay 20.00 for something than 19.00 and not be required to whine , ***** , and beg.

This, there's a clear disparity between the value obtained and the effort involved in living that way...

[Navid A1]

Dahkoht, on 03 February 2016 - 06:05 PM, said:

There's the difference between us , I have no desire to beg and whine for a few cents here and there.

You think it's an acceptable thing to be a whiner for a few cents.

I mean , I guess some can live that way , just I'd rather pay 20.00 for something than 19.00 and not be required to whine , ***** , and beg.

InspectorG, on 03 February 2016 - 06:05 PM, said:

Because they already see enough value?

Then why are you even here, posting?
You are not whining about some people whining... are you?

InspectorG, on 03 February 2016 - 06:05 PM, said:

300 tons of clan tech for $20 +3 bays + Premium is damn skippy to me. A Clan 100 tonner not shaped like a box without gorilla arms seems to have a bright future for that 20 spot.

I don't think you get what the discussion is about.
20$ for the standard pack is pretty sweet.... with loads of content.

Edited by Navid A1, 03 February 2016 - 06:14 PM.

[Dahkoht]

Navid A1, on 03 February 2016 - 06:11 PM, said:

Then why are you even here, posting?
You are not whining about some people whining... are you?

Whining ? Oh no , as I've said before , it's a bonus to hear those of you who don't mind whining , begging , ranting , about a few cents.

Please , carry on virtual begging for a few cents

[Ratpoison]

Navid A1, on 03 February 2016 - 06:11 PM, said:

Then why are you even here, posting?
You are not whining about some people whining... are you?

Because people typically like to talk about their interests, such as video games they like, and because most healthy people don't try to translate everything they do into monetary value?

[Aiden Skye]

You don't have to spend all 70 dollars. I looked at what each pack offered, and decided the $20 dollar pack was good enough for me. Whats the big deal?

[Tarogato]

LegendaryArticuno, on 03 February 2016 - 04:47 PM, said:

FYI as free2play you will never have enough mech bays. I hope you enjoy selling mechs @a fraction of the cost.

*ahhhhem*

<--- completely F2P, own 60 mechs and counting. Still have spare mechbays, too. Still haven't paid a penny. Only thing you'll see on my profile is an Urbanmech package that was gifted to me.

CW and weekend events OP. plz don't nerf.

[Ratpoison]

Tarogato, on 03 February 2016 - 06:23 PM, said:

*ahhhhem*

<--- completely F2P, own 60 mechs and counting. Still have spare mechbays, too. Still haven't paid a penny. Only thing you'll see on my profile is an Urbanmech package that was gifted to me.

CW and weekend events OP. plz don't nerf.

I have to say, that is an impressive number of earned mechbays.

[Navid A1]

Dahkoht, on 03 February 2016 - 06:16 PM, said:

oh, nothing special...


Which restaurant you are at tonight again?

lol

please do not derail the discussion man. Going all I'm almighty and i'm checking on you peasants does not really work!

[Alexandrix]

eh,gotta say the $20 pack is good enough for me on this one.
$20 for 3 assault mechs is a decent deal,even if none of them are boosted variants.
I might pop for the hero if I feel like it.
if the collectors pack had everything in it,including the special/hero...then id probably do that.
but paying that much more for a few more variants that i'll likely never mess with anyways just seems wasteful and pointless.

[InspectorG]

Navid A1, on 03 February 2016 - 06:11 PM, said:

Then why are you even here, posting?
You are not whining about some people whining... are you?

Personally i think this is hilarious, i deal with it every day at my work. Part of my job is sales.

The $20 pack is a deal.

The $70?
The extra content is fluff. Pure and simple. Some may value the Hero Cbill bonus. Others value the aesthetics. Others for Lore or completion.
Others may see value in some of the variants, i myself am tempted by the 5 with 11E 1B.

Hell, whats the total Cbill value if you paid $70 and sold all but one Kodiak?

But its all elective and its all upcharge. You feel or judge it to be worth the cost, you buy. If not you dont buy.

Whining about it is pointless. Im my experience people that whine about price dont value the product and are just trying to get stuff for free.
And in sales, adding upcharge can increase perceived value via exclusivity. Kodiak is a long wanted mech in MWO.

MWO is a niche product. Seems about right PGI would use that.

[Shredhead]

OP is wrong anyway. It's 50$ if you want all 6 chassis! There is no 7th chassis, and absolutely no need to pay 70$!
Seeing as the 4 and 5 are pretty much useless anyway, I'll pay 35$ for basic + hero, get a freaking plethora of different chassis, paintjobs, premium time and cockpit bling to feel good with my buy. I'm playing this game now for 3 1/2 years, and I don't feel like I ever wasted any money on it. I always only bought the mechs and packs I was really interested in and saw potential (with the exception of the Marauder, that was for nostalgia), and I'm good.
I wonder why some people just can't make an informed decision on how much they want to spend on what? Does it have electrolytes? It's like people bitching about the price of their new ****** Apple phone. You have all the information you need to make an informed decision, and if you overpay on a brand name or because it's all the hype with the idiotic cool kids, that's totally on you and you alone!
Take some freaking responsibility for yourselves!

[Navid A1]

InspectorG, on 03 February 2016 - 06:43 PM, said:

Personally i think this is hilarious, i deal with it every day at my work. Part of my job is sales.

The $20 pack is a deal.

The $70?
The extra content is fluff. Pure and simple. Some may value the Hero Cbill bonus. Others value the aesthetics. Others for Lore or completion.
Others may see value in some of the variants, i myself am tempted by the 5 with 11E 1B.

Hell, whats the total Cbill value if you paid $70 and sold all but one Kodiak?

But its all elective and its all upcharge. You feel or judge it to be worth the cost, you buy. If not you dont buy.

Whining about it is pointless. Im my experience people that whine about price dont value the product and are just trying to get stuff for free.
And in sales, adding upcharge can increase perceived value via exclusivity. Kodiak is a long wanted mech in MWO.

MWO is a niche product. Seems about right PGI would use that.

I believe sales are more than just if you like it you buy it, if not, don't buy it.

for example, reducing the collector's pack to 10$ extra ( or even 15$ ) may cost them 10-5$ loss per pack. But they will get 2-3 more collector's sale for each 10-5$ they miss... meaning more income overall.

Even adding incentives, like reduced hero price in case you have collector's would greatly help pushing for the collectors'

[STEF_]

Wow, a lot of ppl here, pgi fun boyz, quite happy about the prices

So what..... when origin came out you had a collective orgasm right?
80$ for 16 mechs, 4 (FOUR) with 30% c-bill bonus----> 5.....FIVE dollars per mech.

THAT was a good, honest price.
Not this one.

[Dingo Battler]

1453 R, on 03 February 2016 - 03:14 PM, said:

The KDK-5 is especially lollerskates - I mean, c'mon. What're you going to do with eleven energy hardpoints that you couldn't do with nine energy hardpoints on the KDK-1?

11 SPLs + cUAC20. Nothing that meets it in close range will survive more than than 3 seconds.

Pretty impractical, but the results will be spectacular if anyone manages to pull it off.

[Wintersdark]

Tarogato, on 03 February 2016 - 05:37 PM, said:

*drinks for every person in this thread complaining about 70$*

I see 300 tons of mechs for 20$. Don't know what all the pants-on-head ******* are looking at... that's a pretty bloody good deal compared to literally everything that has come before it. Don't wanna pay more? Don't.

Yup.

And 600 tons for $50.

Really, I can't complain about that at all. Sure, I wish it were cheaper, but by PGI standards, it's awesome.

Stefka Kerensky, on 03 February 2016 - 07:05 PM, said:

Wow, a lot of ppl here, pgi fun boyz, quite happy about the prices

So what..... when origin came out you had a collective orgasm right?
80$ for 16 mechs, 4 (FOUR) with 30% c-bill bonus----> 5.....FIVE dollars per mech.

THAT was a good, honest price.
Not this one.

I did, but sadly that required getting in on the early bird special, which I couldn't do.

Still, bought the pack, and haven't regretted it (despite how the Highlander IIC is such a letdown).

[Tarogato]

Stefka Kerensky, on 03 February 2016 - 07:05 PM, said:

Wow, a lot of ppl here, pgi fun boyz, quite happy about the prices

So what..... when origin came out you had a collective orgasm right?
80$ for 16 mechs, 4 (FOUR) with 30% c-bill bonus----> 5.....FIVE dollars per mech.

THAT was a good, honest price.
Not this one.

Origins (full pack) 80$ ---- 12.5 tons per dollar
Origins (HGN a la carte) 35$ ---- 10.3 tons per dollar
Origins (basic) 20$ ---- 7.0 tons per dollar

Kodiak (basic) 20$ ---- 15.0 tons per dollar
Kodiak (basic + reinforcement) 35$ ---- 14.3 tons per dollar
Kodiak (full without pointless collector skin) 50$ ---- 12.0 tons per dollar
Kodiak (basic + hero) 35$ ---- 11.4 tons per dollar
Kodiak (full pack) 70$ ---- 10.0 tons per dollar



The more you spend, the less value you get. But if you don't bother splurging for the special skins, it's a better value than anything Origins had to offer.

[SgtMagor]

you can have whatever you want at allice's restaurant. PGI is the Diner serving up dishes, some cheap, and other choices a little pricey. no need to get angry, buy the dish that makes you happy!, cause you can get whatever you want at Allice's restaurant...

[InspectorG]

Tarogato, on 03 February 2016 - 07:16 PM, said:

Origins (full pack) 80$ ---- 12.5 tons per dollar
Origins (HGN a la carte) 35$ ---- 10.3 tons per dollar
Origins (basic) 20$ ---- 7.0 tons per dollar

Kodiak (basic) 20$ ---- 15.0 tons per dollar
Kodiak (basic + reinforcement) 35$ ---- 14.3 tons per dollar
Kodiak (full without pointless collector skin) 50$ ---- 12.0 tons per dollar
Kodiak (basic + hero) 35$ ---- 11.4 tons per dollar
Kodiak (full pack) 70$ ---- 10.0 tons per dollar



The more you spend, the less value you get. But if you don't bother splurging for the special skins, it's a better value than anything Origins had to offer.

And the Adder(kinda saved by the quirk), Nova(let the re-scale save this one), Summoner(no hope for my favorite) were all great purchases...gulp.

[Navid A1]

Tarogato, on 03 February 2016 - 07:16 PM, said:

Origins (full pack) 80$ ---- 12.5 tons per dollar
Origins (HGN a la carte) 35$ ---- 10.3 tons per dollar
Origins (basic) 20$ ---- 7.0 tons per dollar

Kodiak (basic) 20$ ---- 15.0 tons per dollar
Kodiak (basic + reinforcement) 35$ ---- 14.3 tons per dollar
Kodiak (full without pointless collector skin) 50$ ---- 12.0 tons per dollar
Kodiak (basic + hero) 35$ ---- 11.4 tons per dollar
Kodiak (full pack) 70$ ---- 10.0 tons per dollar



The more you spend, the less value you get. But if you don't bother splurging for the special skins, it's a better value than anything Origins had to offer.

I think everyone agrees that the 20$ basic kodiak pack is a very sweet deal.

While i don't think tons/$ is a good measuring stick for a single chassis...
Lets not forget:
Origin full pack offered 24 colors + 4 faction patterns for all (1500 mc each) and 12 usable mechbays
That is one beefy piece of content right there

The new pricing system is what you get by eating whatever PGI puts on your plate. Even the pattern unlock which was pretty normal for previous packs is now early adopter (meaning that the packs will lose a lot of value after Feb 29th).