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[Dirk Le Daring]

This is for you, PGI.

I started on my black knights, so far they seem ok.

I do however have an issue with hardpoints and default/forced weapon locations.

I was re=equipping my BL-7-KNT-L with two er large lasers in the torso, one each side, and one in each arm, medium laser in cockpit.....

I noticed upon saving that the side torso mounted weapons were placed in the LOWEST possible hardpoint....

I then stripped said weapon and replaced them with medium lasers as placeholders, and took out two heatsinke...

Then I went back in to mechlab and added an er large laser to each torso, saved and exited.....

I then went back in to themechlab, and stripped the medium lasers that were in the LOWEST hardpoint and added the heatsinks again, and saved the loadout.....

Upon the save being complete, the er large lasers had MAGICALLY switched to theLOWEST possible hardpoint

What the eff is this ??? Seriously not a cool mechanic AT ALL PGI. I would suggest you revise this as soon as possible. It is, at the very least an idiotic mechanic.

Lets suspend reality for a minute, and pretend we are REAL mechwarriors....

If a tech had deliberately placed my weapons in such a position I'd kick the ****** in the teeth, and if he/she EVER touched my mech again, would be shot.

How about a bit of sensible placement for these things ?

Not much irks me about this game, in fact I think it's great, but this mechanic has got me rather pissed off, to say the least. It is completely illogical, even in a fictional setting. Hell, we mightas well put all our weapons in our mech's feet !!!!

Yes, I am not happy, Genuine rant, real issue.

[wanderer]

Yeah. One of those things the Mechlab REALLY REALLY REALLY needs is the ability to choose which weapon goes into which hardpoint. And keep it there.

[LordNothing]

i know i have stuck some small lasers in some builds that do that, using them as spacers. its a cheap fix but it works, and gives you some short range firepower.

[-Vompo-]

The heavier weapons are lower so you don't fall over in a strong wind. Lower center of gravity guarantees success.

...but yeah... We need to be able to choose the hardpoint we wish to use.

[Triordinant]

Old problem complained about by many but never fixed.

[Chaldon]

I recall the PGI quote "working as intended".

[MrMadguy]

Some 'Mechs have broken hardpoint priority. Heavy Metal for example. In stock loadout LRM20 always occupies 10 tubes hadrpoint and LRM10 - 20 tubes hardpoint no matter what.

Edited by MrMadguy, 07 February 2016 - 12:02 AM.

[Inveramsay]

Think of the poor ebon, if you want the two high mounts in the left torso you have to stick a spacer laser in there, same with battlemasters.

[Deathlike]

It's been a "feature" since dynamic hardpoints were added.

Apparently it wasn't a consideration for a long while, and while "supposedly" it would be addressed... you are SOL because it's working as intended™ at the moment.

[Cabusha]

Yep, have to use a spacer to bump to the higher mount. Also, when a weapon is saved the first time in a chassis, it will "remember" what hardpoint it was on. As a result if it's saved in the wrong spot, you'll sometimes have to sell that weapon, then buy it back so it can get a fresh hardpoint affinity.

[Paigan]

Dirk Le Daring, on 06 February 2016 - 08:46 PM, said:

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If a tech had deliberately placed my weapons in such a position I'd kick the ****** in the teeth, and if he/she EVER touched my mech again, would be shot.
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Uhm... you know that almost all mechs are not suited for realistic combat but are designed more like cheesy child toys, right?
Hence blaming some imaginary tech is a bit harsh...

[No Guts No Glory]

I like to naively believe it's an attempt at killing the long range hill hump poke game.

[Yosharian]

GL waiting for that to get fixed

[Qraz]

Doesn't really add in cashflow to fix this, so.... "working as intended".

[Y E O N N E]

Inveramsay, on 07 February 2016 - 12:05 AM, said:

Think of the poor ebon, if you want the two high mounts in the left torso you have to stick a spacer laser in there, same with battlemasters.

I can get the large lasers into the top hardpoints on my Battlemaster without spacers. Haven't tried PPCs, but it seems like the first two weapons in always go to the top.

[Dirk Le Daring]

Paigan, on 07 February 2016 - 01:33 AM, said:

Uhm... you know that almost all mechs are not suited for realistic combat but are designed more like cheesy child toys, right?
Hence blaming some imaginary tech is a bit harsh...

So you left out the line above which states,,,,,

'Lets suspend reality for a minute, and pretend we are REAL mechwarriors....'

Nice way of twisting things, are you planning on becoming a lawyer or a politician ??

Never take things out of context in order to justify yourself or your opinion.... schmuck.

No Guts No Glory, on 07 February 2016 - 02:56 AM, said:

I like to naively believe it's an attempt at killing the long range hill hump poke game.

Why have blackjacks, jagermechs, and the rifleman then ?

Most hardpoints are very low anyway, there is no reason to further reduce the height of a weapon.

[Troutmonkey]

The Grasshopper suffers from this problem too. Have to use smaller weapons to prop the bigger ones up into the higher mounts. The mechlab needs a serious overhaul to make this problem (and many others) to go away.