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[Metus regem]

FupDup, on 12 February 2016 - 12:05 PM, said:

If I played a drinking game where I took a shot every time a Clan hero thread popped up, I would have drowned myself months ago.

you would be dead from alcohol poisoning....

[PocketYoda]

Because Clanners are EVIL so they cannot have heroes..

See!

Edited by Samial, 12 February 2016 - 07:32 PM.

[Imperius]

Some people just can't accept the timeline doesn't matter to PGI.

Mechwarrior game inspired by BATTLETECH

[MauttyKoray]

Zacharias McLeod, on 12 February 2016 - 11:54 AM, said:

But normaly not available in the timeline. MWO is around 3052 (not sure the real year because they made some rollbacks). And the Mad Cat MK 2 is around 3060.

They can still make Heros of the 2C Versions and other second line Mechs like the Behemoth.

Ignore Imperius, he's just a troll that hasn't stopped spamming in every post he possibly can about the MKII.

As for the Omni Hero, its quite possible we could get them but they would require some restrictions to make them viable such as Hero-only Omnipods that can be swapped out for other but which cannot be put onto the non-hero variants.

[Imperius]

I'm pretty sure our only clan hero mechs will be non-omnimechs. Thank god the MK II is around the corner.

After all we only have one clan hero which is completely unacceptable!

[TheBlackMegadeus]

why is there a need for hero omni's again?
I can't hold all these special variants with the exact same* bonus any other hero's get.

Edited by TheBlackMegadeus, 12 February 2016 - 08:15 PM.

[SteveRestless]

Personally I just want a Timber Wolf that earns 30% more CBills without having to pay $55 for it. $55 gets you like... 5 kodiaks.

I don't care if the pods are any different at all. Maybe same hardpoints different quirks? Doesn't matter. I just want to be able to get a decent priced +30%cb Omni.

[Luca M Pryde]

Prefer a new clan omnimech pack.

Turkina, Night Gyr, Black Lanner, Viper, Fire Moth and Fire falcon.

Hero mechs really would just be like an OP normal mech which could wreck the balance of the game.

[Andi Nagasia]

as most of the CTs have the same Quirks when it comes to OmniMechs now,
i guessing Omni Heros willl be the same, perhaps some Unique pods, that you only get with the hero,
no i dont think it will be PTW, or that it could ganna break the game or balance,

i would pay for a WHK Omni Hero,
that has a LA with 3Energy(to Match my WHK-B RA)
that has a RA with 2Energy&1Missile(to Match my WHK-P/A LA)
and that has a RT with 4JJ(Just because it would be cool)

no one will Complain about 1more Energy or Missile,
a single Hard Point will not make the WHK instantly better,
it will how ever help with some Players Builds(6MPL) ect,

the 4JJ could be considered PTW but, its not like Rock Jumping Hover Jets would be OP,
(i said 4JJ as thats how much the WHK would have & i put all in the RT for balance)

[Karmen Baric]

Andi Nagasia, on 13 February 2016 - 06:41 PM, said:

as most of the CTs have the same Quirks when it comes to OmniMechs now,
i guessing Omni Heros willl be the same, perhaps some Unique pods, that you only get with the hero,
no i dont think it will be PTW, or that it could ganna break the game or balance,

i would pay for a WHK Omni Hero,
that has a LA with 3Energy(to Match my WHK-B RA)
that has a RA with 2Energy&1Missile(to Match my WHK-P/A LA)
and that has a RT with 4JJ(Just because it would be cool)

no one will Complain about 1more Energy or Missile,
a single Hard Point will not make the WHK instantly better,
it will how ever help with some Players Builds(6MPL) ect,

the 4JJ could be considered PTW but, its not like Rock Jumping Hover Jets would be OP,
(i said 4JJ as thats how much the WHK would have & i put all in the RT for balance)

No, Clan Omni heroes like you say will be Pay To Win as as a general rule IS heroes are mediocre compared to other non hero variants of the same mech, yet you want to have a hero that can also be the best variant based on omnipod interchangeability. This also means Clanners can earn more cbills than IS players and again is unfair advantage.

The basic hero omnimech build needs to have omnipods that when combined on a hero mech to be inferior to a champion / standard build omni mech. Also hero omni pods need to give negative quirks when added to non hero CT and adding non hero omnipods to a hero CT needs to give negative quirks too and decrease the cbill % proportionally too.

[Andi Nagasia]

Karmen Baric, on 13 February 2016 - 06:52 PM, said:

No, Clan Omni heroes like you say will be Pay To Win as as a general rule IS heroes are mediocre compared to other non hero variants of the same mech, yet you want to have a hero that can also be the best variant based on omnipod interchangeability. This also means Clanners can earn more cbills than IS players and again is unfair advantage.

The basic hero omnimech build needs to have omnipods that when combined on a hero mech to be inferior to a champion / standard build omni mech. Also hero omni pods need to give negative quirks when added to non hero CT and adding non hero omnipods to a hero CT needs to give negative quirks too and decrease the cbill % proportionally too.

Even if a Clan Hero only gets 30% Cbill Bonus, like the Invasion Variants? are they Pay2Win?
can +1Energy or +1Missile really gonna be considered Pay2Win & OP i dont think so,

[MauttyKoray]

MauttyKoray, on 12 February 2016 - 07:45 PM, said:

Ignore Imperius, he's just a troll that hasn't stopped spamming in every post he possibly can about the MKII.

As for the Omni Hero, its quite possible we could get them but they would require some restrictions to make them viable such as Hero-only Omnipods that can be swapped out for other but which cannot be put onto the non-hero variants.

As I said, or its even possible the Hero Omnis WON'T be able to switch omnipods to keep the flavor of them being a 'Hero' unit. If they can outfit Omni heroes with a good hardpoint selection and possibly even unlock the usually 'locked' equipment (not engines) then restricting them from swapping Omnipods could be compensated to keep the flavor/lore of a Hero mech.

[Andi Nagasia]

MauttyKoray, on 13 February 2016 - 08:12 PM, said:

As I said, or its even possible the Hero Omnis WON'T be able to switch omnipods to keep the flavor of them being a 'Hero' unit. If they can outfit Omni heroes with a good hardpoint selection and possibly even unlock the usually 'locked' equipment (not engines) then restricting them from swapping Omnipods could be compensated to keep the flavor/lore of a Hero mech.

i dont agree, for instance if the Nova-P Hero(12E) were a BattleMech i feel it would be P2W,
as a Nova-P BattleMech would be Completely Superior to a NVA OmniMech(Unlocked Engine/Endo/Ferro),

[Zolaz]

PGI says that why would anyone buy 50 dollar alacart's or Clan packages if they put out Clan Heroes?

[Ace Selin]

Zolaz, on 13 February 2016 - 10:34 PM, said:

PGI says that why would anyone buy 50 dollar alacart's or Clan packages if they put out Clan Heroes?

Has something like that really been said?
Very interesting point if true.

[Rkshz]

PGI thank you very much for OLD OMNI HEROES mechs
P.S. money and respect - the engine of progress

Edited by Rakshaz, 16 October 2016 - 11:37 PM.