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[Ted Wayz]

Sumdumbum, on 16 February 2016 - 01:55 PM, said:

Really? Take 15% off its range and replace it with nothing? Great.

What are some of YOUR favorite mechs that got totally hosed because of the range nerf?

What is the point of setting up quirks mech by mech only to take a broad brush to all IS energy quirks? I mean what detailed analysis came up with this as the solution?

Face it, at this point PGI has just given up.

[Navid A1]

As a GridIron and Huggin owner... Feel my pain.

those were not even OP.

[Johnny Z]

1453 R, on 16 February 2016 - 02:36 PM, said:

Seriously, dude. Could you just stop talking forever?

We all know where the bad 'Mech touched you.

I'm sorry you feel that way. Maybe learn to win without crutches? One thing about crutch users they usually done know when to stop. I hope your not using 3rd party programs because seeing you on the ban list would be a shame.

In all seriousness when that ban lost comes out I hope it includes units and faction.

Edited by Johnny Z, 16 February 2016 - 02:46 PM.

[Bulletsponge0]

Johnny Z, on 16 February 2016 - 02:41 PM, said:

I'm sorry you feel that way. Maybe learn to win without crutches?

what "crutches"?

[Johnny Z]

Bulletsponge0, on 16 February 2016 - 02:43 PM, said:

what "crutches"?

I'll bite. You never heard of Clan easy mode? Just started playing did you?

Edited by Johnny Z, 16 February 2016 - 02:48 PM.

[Tyler Valentine]

Johnny Z, on 16 February 2016 - 02:44 PM, said:

I'll bite. You never heard of Clan easy mode? Just started playing did you?

Clan easy mode has been dead at least since the last patch, maybe longer.

Is your crutch pretending like you're playing with inferior 'mechs?

[Chuck Jager]

The big groups switched to IS and now will switch back to Clan, so clan will be dominant in CW for the next 3 months. Kinda fair, maybe not but I see the logic.

The funny thing is on my alt IS account, I specifically chased the big groups and joined up on the faction TS. There were very few games where we did not use medium to close range tactics. Folks were specifically told to not bring snipers or lrms unless they had bad pings. So each drop maybe had 2-3 sniper/lrm combos and they helped, because they were also on TS.

So maybe in pug vs pug IS had an advantage, but I think it was more that clan would still be against more pre-mades. Probably boiled down to an insult to injury scenario. IS or Clan or premade vs pug, organized pressure wins, but some folks have to give up some easy damage.

Still using my tbolt 9s, but with 2lplas and 3 mplas and a std engine and it does well, but I have modules and it is mastered. I also plan on playing BJs with nerf and will always take out my SHDs - 3erllas changed to 3lplas 6 months ago (first girlfriend thing).

I will keep switching between accounts while CW is so easy to control, because I have zero reason to be fed into a grinder when there is such an obvious choice of what to do. I can play pug matches under 5 minutes to be on the losing side of completely lopsided games.

[Ace Selin]

Kaeb Odellas, on 16 February 2016 - 02:28 PM, said:

What bugs me most is that they didn't seem to consider what that this would screw over builds that didn't even use ERLLs. Or if they did consider it, they didn't care. Hell, a lot of the mechs affected were already mediocre or outright bad even with the range quirk. It's all so disappointing.

This!

[Y E O N N E]

Kaeb Odellas, on 16 February 2016 - 02:28 PM, said:

What bugs me most is that they didn't seem to consider what that this would screw over builds that didn't even use ERLLs. Or if they did consider it, they didn't care. Hell, a lot of the mechs affected were already mediocre or outright bad even with the range quirk. It's all so disappointing.

Muh Locust 1M!

[Lupus Aurelius]

Received 25% generic energy range bonus, and it's only energy quirk, 12-01-15...

Nerfed to 10% 02-16-16...

Only available for MC...

And don't even think of trying to get a refund, if you did not buy it a day or two before the patch, they will tell you "NO" - I know, I've tried.

And surprise surprise, one of the hero mechs that was on sale the last time they did a 1/2 off on hero prices, after the 25% range quirk was announced.

Typical PGI money grab, buff them, get ppl to buy MC to get them, then nerf them to hell - it's called "being PGI'd"

Well done, R. Bollocks and P. InYourEye, well done...

[Queen of England]

Never pay real money for 'mechs unless you don't care if they're viable. Buy good 'mechs with c-bills. When they get nerfed, just buy the new good 'mechs with the c-bills you earned in the old ones.

Right now, the Oxide is good, but its a trap. Without quirks, the 'mech is terrible. When those quirks get nerfed, and they will, the oxide will go back to being terrible, and you'll be out the cash paid. Look at the Dragon Slayer, Grid Iron, Huginn, and now the Top Dog.

That being said, the Top Dog didn't make out as bad as some others. It still has a lot of energy hardpoints, many of which are fairly high-mounted, so the worst it will ever be is mediocre.

Edited by Queen of England, 16 February 2016 - 03:28 PM.

[Ted Wayz]

Chuck Jager, on 16 February 2016 - 03:02 PM, said:

The big groups switched to IS and now will switch back to Clan, so clan will be dominant in CW for the next 3 months. Kinda fair, maybe not but I see the logic.

Big groups switching sides in minority play mode is not a reason for broad based, not thought out, changes. Because a) it makes the big groups playing a minority mode think they have power and they can change sides for arbitrary reasons that result in a real difference in the majority play mode.

Just so dumb.

How about fixing the game instead of pandering to a minority PGI?

Queen of England, on 16 February 2016 - 03:27 PM, said:

That being said, the Top Dog didn't make out as bad as some others.

This alone should make you shudder.

Edited by Ted Wayz, 16 February 2016 - 03:58 PM.

[Bulletsponge0]

Johnny Z, on 16 February 2016 - 02:44 PM, said:

I'll bite. You never heard of Clan easy mode? Just started playing did you?

explain this easy mode with hotter weapons, longer burning weapons, less structure quirks, less armor quirks....etc.

[Mechwarrior1441491]

mogs01gt, on 16 February 2016 - 01:59 PM, said:

removing massive quirks is a good thing!

removing those quirks with a wide spread magic wand means many dozens of mech variations never being used again. It's sad what they do to their game.

[Ted Wayz]

Bulletsponge0, on 16 February 2016 - 03:47 PM, said:

explain this easy mode with hotter weapons, longer burning weapons, less structure quirks, less armor quirks....etc.

And yet the best mechs in each weight class. Good try.

Go home.

[riverslq]

Kaeb Odellas, on 16 February 2016 - 02:28 PM, said:

What bugs me most is that they didn't seem to consider what that this would screw over builds that didn't even use ERLLs. Or if they did consider it, they didn't care. Hell, a lot of the mechs affected were already mediocre or outright bad even with the range quirk. It's all so disappointing.

Paul strikes again.
As if the people coding this game don't even play it.
well, beyond getting their asses handed to them on arctic in one match by ERLLs.

[TexAce]

Ace Selin, on 16 February 2016 - 02:00 PM, said:

I wish i hadn't purchased the Top Dog actually. If only i could get a refund.

you purchased it because of quirks?

LOL

[Mechwarrior1441491]

TexAce, on 16 February 2016 - 03:59 PM, said:

you purchased it because of quirks?

LOL

It's most certainly was a Go To Heavy for CW with its pre quirks. Not sure where it sits at the moment.

Edited by xMADCATTERx, 16 February 2016 - 04:04 PM.

[TexAce]

xMADCATTERx, on 16 February 2016 - 04:01 PM, said:

It's most certainly was a Go To Heavy for CW with its pre quirks. Not sure where it sits at the moment.

Purchasing anything because of quirks is a very bad decision.

[Kaeb Odellas]

TexAce, on 16 February 2016 - 04:07 PM, said:

Purchasing anything because of quirks is a very bad decision.

I agree with this sentiment, but what was the point in hitting already bad mechs with this blanket nerf without any kind of compensation? I assure you no one was buying Commandos or Spiders for their amazing game-breaking quirks.