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[xXBagheeraXx]

Wasn't a snap at you it was a comment at "Mr Barbie" up there who had nothing to really add to the discussion. Yours seemed like a legitimate question and I answered it.

Alistair Winter, on 23 February 2016 - 08:36 AM, said:

At least they finally fixed those lostech missile doors, right?

The doors never bothered me since you know...you can OPEN them.

[MeiSooHaityu]

xXBagheeraXx, on 23 February 2016 - 08:26 AM, said:

But it highlights the same problem. These ugly add-on launchers. You think they would have learned after the Catapult bit they keep doing it.

Not really. I mean the Stalker does have a launcher that does have to be "tacked on", but that is with any weapon on any mech. Weapons need to be added and they have to be attached somehow.

The Catapult goes WAY beyond that. I expect weapons to be tacked on, I just expect them to be tacked on in the huge box of a location designated for missiles. Instead missiles are tacked on all around the outside of the place missiles are supposed to go inside of. That is a whole new level of dysfunction. Lol.

Imagine having this nice large empty 3 car garage. Now keep only one car in the garage, and keep your other 2 cars in the driveway. Makes no sense.

That doesn't even cover how the additional missile VCRs seem to double the arm's surface area when it shouldn't.

I feel for Stalker owners, but the Catapult had them ALL beat.

Edited by MeiSooHaityu, 23 February 2016 - 08:56 AM.

[MoonUnitBeta]

I'm just curious what would be better...
I'm looking at it and the only thing really would be to sink it futher into the torso... and maybe round out the launcher a bit?

But if we're comparing, I wouldn't compare this to the Catapult at all. I think it's funny when people do that. And from my view, comparing to the catapult just invalidates how you see bad workmanship and thus your complaint. Catapult was BAD. This is not so bad. This is more like Timberwolf Torso bad (not the ears, the part where the missiles wraps around the cockpit in this hude 3D extruded box). Still looks like crap, but at least it makes some sense and is not completely murdering the entire aesthetic of the mech.
By the way, the only visual I see that looks some-what bad is the LRM launcher in the torso... that's all that people are really posting about, and it honestly doesn't look -that- bad. Can we see what it looks like with a couple LRM 10 launchers? Can we compare it to a Timberwolf missile boat?

I think this thread has some good ideas that both the Stalker and other mechs with torso mounted missile pods could benefit from:
Click: http://mwomercs.com/...-missile-racks/

Edited by MoonUnitBeta, 23 February 2016 - 10:01 AM.

[Dino Might]

Appogee, on 23 February 2016 - 08:31 AM, said:

If the way your Mech looks is that important, perhaps you'd be more comfortable playing MechBarbieDressups.

I would, but I can't afford enough paint/camo schemes to really have more than 15 minutes of play time.

[Appogee]

xXBagheeraXx, on 23 February 2016 - 08:32 AM, said:

If the aesthetics and the models used in the game are not an issue to you, why are you even in this thread?

Because it disturbs me that I'm dropping in battles with pilots who are so concerned about perceived minor aesthetic issues with tanky effective Mechs like Stalkers that that they actually say they're not going to drop in them anymore.

How do you feel about Vindicators? I hope you don't find them so attractive that you feel compelled to bring them to battles?

Edited by Appogee, 23 February 2016 - 11:11 AM.

[Summon3r]

Appogee, on 23 February 2016 - 11:07 AM, said:

Because it disturbs me that I'm dropping in battles with pilots who are so concerned about perceived minor aesthetic issues with tanky effective Mechs like Stalkers that that they actually say they're not going to drop in them anymore.

How do you feel about Vindicators? I hope you don't find them so attractive that you feel compelled to bring them to battles?

i drop almost solely in mechs that i think look cool, and yes that includes the SMN with both PRIME arms on it.

[MeiSooHaityu]

Appogee, on 23 February 2016 - 11:07 AM, said:

How do you feel about Vindicators? I hope you don't find them so attractive that you feel compelled to bring them to battles?

*slowly raises hand*

Ummm yeah, that me. *he says in a hushed tone barely above a whisper*

[MoonUnitBeta]

MeiSooHaityu, on 23 February 2016 - 11:15 AM, said:

*slowly raises hand*

Ummm yeah, that me. *he says in a hushed tone barely above a whisper*

Dido. I love the vindicator looks. Dem legs be sexy mang.

[MeiSooHaityu]

MoonUnitBeta, on 23 February 2016 - 11:16 AM, said:

Dido. I love the vindicator looks. Dem legs be sexy mang.

That awesome PPC barrel right arm too.

Plus, the view from the cockpit even looks cool. I love how that mech looks. I just wish it performed a bit closer to its looks (although I had a lot of good games with my 1AA last night).

[Appogee]

LOL. This explains some of the teams I've been dropping with lately

[MeiSooHaityu]

Appogee, on 23 February 2016 - 11:30 AM, said:

LOL. This explains some of the teams I've been dropping with lately

Yeah...yeah...yeah lol.

[Summon3r]

Appogee, on 23 February 2016 - 11:30 AM, said:

LOL. This explains some of the teams I've been dropping with lately

heh i thought 600-800 dmg in a 2 weapon mech was ok.. gee what do i know

[MoonUnitBeta]

MeiSooHaityu, on 23 February 2016 - 11:22 AM, said:

That awesome PPC barrel right arm too.

Plus, the view from the cockpit even looks cool. I love how that mech looks. I just wish it performed a bit closer to its looks (although I had a lot of good games with my 1AA last night).

This is the build that I like to play. I don't know if it's exactly the one that I have in my hangar (SRM 6 might be an SRM4 with arty, or no arty and a bigger engine... i forget what it is)
I don't have much success in any of the other vindicators really. Tried various PPC builds but they're just way too hot... Might try regular PPC and small lasers, build... but meh. At least the mech looks cool haha. Because a lot of mechs are "samey", I mainly play the ones that look appeal to me visually.

[MeiSooHaityu]

MoonUnitBeta, on 23 February 2016 - 12:02 PM, said:

This is the build that I like to play. I don't know if it's exactly the one that I have in my hangar (SRM 6 might be an SRM4 with arty, or no arty and a bigger engine... i forget what it is)
I don't have much success in any of the other vindicators really. Tried various PPC builds but they're just way too hot... Might try regular PPC and small lasers, build... but meh. At least the mech looks cool haha. Because a lot of mechs are "samey", I mainly play the ones that look appeal to me visually.

PPCs (regular anyway) seem to be pretty cool in a 1AA with the quirks. I'd try that if you wanted.

Here is my Vindi builds...

1AA:
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...c162af6a3490e06

1R:
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...73d4715fa34d110

1X:
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...4905288f605bf96
(3 A/C2s is kind of fun too, but the mech is vulnerable if the arm is blown off)

SIB:
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...5190948684854f9
(This build is kind of new so the jury is out, but it seems ok so far. Also, I forgot to redistribute armor, but it is about the same as the others).

That's what my loadouts look like right now.

Edited by MeiSooHaityu, 23 February 2016 - 12:21 PM.

[Appogee]

This is why the Match Score system needs to be updated.

In addition to points for kills and assists, points should be awarded for camo schemes, and whether particular weapon loadouts are aesthetically pleasing.

Because that's what Mech fights were really all about in lore...

Lance Commander: "Lance, primary target is the Vindicator, designation Bravo."
Lance Point 1: "Neg Commander! That Mech's camo is too nice to be damaged with laser and ballistic fire."
Lance Point 2: "Let's target the Catapult. That will teach him not to use orange and pink in the same design.
Lance Point 3: "And look at those missile racks. They're out of proportion! What was he thinking?!"

Edited by Appogee, 23 February 2016 - 12:38 PM.

[Wolfways]

I don't understand people who play mechs that they don't think look good.

[Khobai]

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I don't understand people who play mechs that they don't think look good.

I play stupid looking mechs all the time. executioner is like the stupidest looking assault mech ever.

I dont care. I dont have to look at them. And if I offend other people with my ugly mechs all the better.

[LordMelvin]

sycocys, on 23 February 2016 - 08:20 AM, said:

As terrible as it looks on the Catapault it probably functions better since you can put most of your missiles outside of the stupid doors.

Nope. All launchers on the Catapults abide by the door delay, even the VCR mounted ones.

[Sigilum Sanctum]

You must have missed my thread.
http://mwomercs.com/...xcuse-the-salt/