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[Graugger]

Trying to figure out why I should take an AC/20 over triple SRM4s.

SRMs fire faster, do more damage, and weigh less giving a much higher DPS.

AC/20 does large damage with 1 shell.

Meh. why have ACs on any of my mechs?

[Monkey Lover]

Has to do with hardpoints more than anything. I would hope a weapon using up 3 hardpoints would be better than 1

Edited by Monkey Lover, 25 February 2016 - 11:29 AM.

[sycocys]

Major factor is how is hitreg working at the time.

After that I always vote srm4s. Faster cd + more ammo + less crit slots.

[Juodas Varnas]

"Why not both?"
Sincerely, my Centurion and Atlas.

[Malachy Karrde]

Yeah hardpoints... both work about as well out to 270...though the ac 20 may have a slight range advantage. I tend to like to pair an uac or ac10 with 2 srm 6

[Metus regem]

Graugger, on 25 February 2016 - 11:26 AM, said:

Trying to figure out why I should take an AC/20 over triple SRM4s.

SRMs fire faster, do more damage, and weigh less giving a much higher DPS.

AC/20 does large damage with 1 shell.

Meh. why have ACs on any of my mechs?

but in all seriousness, an AC/20 will do more damage than an triple SRM4 to one location, even with Artemis tightening up the grouping.

If you have the weight to work with an AC/20 with out compromise, then adding SRM's does nothing but add to the abilities of that mech, it is also worth noting that SRM's can still be shot down by AMS.

[Escef]

Juodas Varnas, on 25 February 2016 - 11:29 AM, said:

"Why not both?"
Sincerely, my Centurion and Atlas.

Yeah, laser hitreg seems to have gone to crap on me recently, so I busted out my CN9-AH(L) yesterday and put some serious hurt on people.

[Uzi Foo]

Depends on the mech and its quirks. Also how the weapons will be used. I don't bother with srm4, so my advice is srm6 bias.

The most direct comparison I have is the Hunchback 4g and 4sp. Both are great for different reasons. The 4g lobs ac20 shells like candy on Halloween, the range boost is also crazy. On the 4sp the srm rate of fire is boosted a lot, and the missile speed and clustering is amazing.

AC gives you that pin point punch, and srm is just brute spread damage.

On my Atlas I use both ac20 and srm at the same time. They have the same cooldown and speed it seems, so they work great when fired together.

If you can't aim straight go srm. If you can aim good under pressure go AC20. Its a very skill dependent choice. I have no problems hitting speeding lights with my ac20, but that comes with practice.

Edited by Uzi Foo, 25 February 2016 - 11:46 AM.

[Otto Cannon]

AC20 will kill targets that SRMs will tickle.

If you want high match scores from high damage then take missiles. If you want your enemies to die as fast as possible and you're a good shot then use an autocannon.

[Metus regem]

Otto Cannon, on 25 February 2016 - 11:37 AM, said:

AC20 will kill large targets that SRMs will tickle anything bigger than a light.

If you want high match scores from high damage then take missiles. If you want your enemies to die as fast as possible and you're a good shot then use an autocannon.

Fixed your opening statement a bit....

[Tyler Valentine]

P. P. F. L. D.

[Quicksilver Aberration]

SRMs, AC20s just don't have the damage output to actually be worth it in a brawl (as a main weapon). Now if you are talking short range poke, provided there are good quirks for it, it can be ok, but MPLs or something like that tend to be better.

[Metus regem]

1Grimbane, on 25 February 2016 - 11:54 AM, said:

strap 4 srm6's and an ac/20 on the as7-s and watch the good times roll

It is amusing, it's whats on my AS7-S(L).... well 4xASRM6's+300+AC/20+28 rounds.... It does bad things to other mechs....

[mogs01gt]

Its simple, SRMs arent pin point. They spread dmg and miss like a mofo!

[Graugger]

Also leaning towards SRMs after seeing the Jenner IICs with 6 SRM4s out doing virtually everything else on the field. Watched one on the enemy team take out 7 of our mechs before it got TK'd by an arty strike.

[Ivan Tsarevich]

To put it objectively, the AC20 has a slower reload rate, lower ammo count, and takes up more tons and slots. The trade off is significant single panel damage, higher projectile velocity, and greater range, as it can do significant damage a bit beyond the 270m effective range. On paper, this makes it a better weapon for finishing targets and poking at the higher end of the range. And while a bit harder to hit with, small targets will feel that AC20 more than the SRMs, as the SRMS more easily spread their damage across all multiple hit boxes as result of their size.

In reality, both setups are great. And if you do both, brawling is just a ton of fun!

[Roadkill]

Metus regem, on 25 February 2016 - 11:31 AM, said:

it is also worth noting that SRM's can still be shot down by AMS.

Are you sure about that?

I believe that AMS only fires at targeted missiles, prioritizing those that are targeting your Mech. Since SRMs are dumb fire, AMS doesn't activate.

[Quicksilver Aberration]

Roadkill, on 25 February 2016 - 01:40 PM, said:

Are you sure about that?

He is right, AMS does shoot down regular SRMs.

Edited by Quicksilver Kalasa, 25 February 2016 - 01:43 PM.

[mogs01gt]

Also, SRMS suck against lights due to spread damage! Large the target, larger the hitbox!

[627]

I'm not even sure that there is a mech where you have to answer that question. maybe the shadowhawk but most mech can only run of of these anyway...