Madrummer, on 28 February 2016 - 07:47 AM, said:
Negative. That's some of the most victim-shaming **** I've ever heard. This isn't a chat program, it's not a redit feed, it's not something where you can just unsubscribe from a thread to no longer hear the blatant breaking of TOS ******** that's streaming from these scumbags.
Victim shaming, really? That's a pretty far stretch, but considering you didn't understand what I said and your assertions are clear enough evidence of that, I'm not surprised in the slightest. This isn't like ra**, murder or physical violence - You're not a victim unless you give the words being throw at you the power their speakers are hoping you do and turn yourself into a victim. And yes, this is something you can 'unsubscribe' from - It's called Mute and Block. Should you feel so inclined to act on a TOS that was formulated with the pretense of protecting people like the OP, mind you, then go report them as well. Don't mistake for one second, which you currently do, that just because you're siding with the morally popular opinions (Which is suppression and censorship of the morally unpopular opinions) that you are 'right' or 'innocent' and not merely enacting a different form of subjugation that happens to be acceptable at the time. Chains are chains, whether they're rusted iron or pretty pink painted steel.
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And the swastika is not just a symbol. Hate speech is not just words. They are specific representations of an individual's thoughts and desires, and are what people use to display their views and threats.
Yes, it's just a picture and hate speech is still just words. I never said that they dont mean something to certain people, my point however is that they really don't mean anything at all unless people allow it, on either side.
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It's not an idea that's up to interpretation, and the words are given their meanings and "powers" by the individuals and groups that use them, not by the listener that they are directed toward.
I didn't specify the 'victims' as the sole source of meaning or power. I differentiated between the power the User gives it versus the power the Receiver gives it. Point in case: Sticks and Stones - Don't be a victim unless you want to be... Tantamount to convicting yourself of a crime and choosing your own punishment.
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Your logic is like saying, "Knives are only given their destructive force by the people being stabbed. If you don't believe that they will hurt you, then the cuts won't make you bleed." It's ignorant, immature, and shows a lack of both compassion and understanding while showing your social and intellectual development.
You didn't get my logic at all, so please don't try to formulate meaningful analogies trying to explain it.
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But hey, apparently I've insulted your sensibilities and your world views, so I guess you DO understand where I'm coming from, even if you don't want to admit that others should be given the same courtesy. Maybe you're not dense, maybe you're just selfish and belligerently rude?
Something in your words suggests projection and that I'm not actually the one insulted here. I'm certainly not the one resorting to meaningless personal attacks to support my position.
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But to sum it up, they're breaking TOS, they're purposely griefing their team, they're abusing a function of the game, and what they are doing is a crime called "Verbal harassment/abuse"
Then report them /shrug.
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because yes, saying "you f*cking ni**ers need to get f*cking hung. F*cking fa**ots I'd kill you if I ever saw your ni**er asses in my town hahaha" is ABSOLUTELY unacceptable, and to think that such actions should go unpunished in a civilized society is ridiculously idiotic. ((That is, by the way, a direct quote by an individual that I would LOVE to post up the name and unit tag of, but for some reason these scummers are protected against public shaming on this forum))
What's stopping you? What's PGI going to do - Nothing. I mean that's why this thread exists isnt it? Because PGI is failing at being your righteous avenger? Your self-imposed victim status is left unfulfilled, vulnerable! How dare PGI create 'rules' to keep the bad words from touching me and sit idly by! They are clearly unreliable... Post the person's name and be victorious! Your thirst for vengeance will be sated!
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But hey, no, you're right, these scumbags totally deserve the right to say this, right? Even though it's not free speech, and even though it is not an affront to it to see these worthless sh*tbags punished for their abuse.
From now on every time you use the following words or any variation of them you will punished by 2 years prison time up to a maximum of the penalty of death: Love, Happiness, Joy, Comfort, Freedom, Religion. My 'civilized' society has determined they are derogatory in nature, promote fear and are a source of emotional pain due to their widespread usage and association with criminal activity. -- Sounds pretty ridiculous, doesnt it. In point of fact it's very true - those words do exactly as I stated whether you agree with it or not. But since popular opinion is on your side, you're clearly right. (Not)
I do not condone the intentions of people that say such things, especially when it leads to violence against themselves or others. I'm not going to endorse the suppression of people either. But dont stand there pretending censorship and punishment for using 'unsavory' words is anything more than the exertion of your will and beliefs upon others thinly veiled by a self-righteous delusion of morality and a hypocritical farce.
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