Quicksilver Kalasa, on 01 March 2016 - 12:24 PM, said:
Alpha strike oriented builds are at odds with DPS oriented builds (you rarely have both in other words). This may be where people get confused. Mechs like the Quickdraw and Mauler aren't really alpha mechs (33 and 25 damage respectively, which is low), they are oriented towards pumping out DPS. Mechs like the Black Knight and super laser Timby (58 and 68 damage respectively) suffer in the DPS realm, I'd imagine worse or only slightly higher than the Quickdraw, but are meant to do short bursts of damage to punish or open holes on important targets quickly.
Or maybe you just meant to say burst damage instead of DPS.
I don't get into the whole "legalistic definition" arguments on here anymore. There are so many misused terms and such (compared to what a word or term generally means outside this community).
Things like
meta
Meta here is nothing more than the min/max based on DPS (or burst, or alpha, or whatever word you'd like to use to describe it) according to the mech on paper and math.
that's it. nothing more
They're not the "best" because there is no "best".
I've spent almost my entire time in MWO listening to others tell me how "bad" my LL boats were for years. They were "bad" and I was "bad" obviously because I used them.
Meta is just the easiest path to obtain the most efficient damage out of a mech based on math. If you prefer that statement wording
Point is, any and all talk regarding "best" or "good" or "bad" or "competitive" is based entirely upon personal opinion. Not factual representation.
I don't represent my opinions as factual evidence. (at least not intentionally and rarely even in those cases).
A lot of players who talk "competitive" and "meta" do, however, try to represent their opinions as fact when it comes to builds, weapon systems, etc.
"Well they aren't used at the top tier"
yes they are, because I use every weapon system in the game except flamers, mgs, and small lasers.
I win just about as often as I lose
I'm in the upper tier rankings of this game.
I play against and with some of the top units and players in the game
I stand now, just like I did in regards to my LL boats, in direct and factual contradiction to sweeping blanket statements like that.
Again though, this is all getting way off topic.
Can we PLEASE talk about heat system and stop with all the "good" "bad" mechs and weapons and such discussion? There's plenty of threads for those discussions.
I'd like us to get back on track discussing what we'd like to see in a heat system, ideas on how to implement something like that, ideas on how to balance it, etc. instead of arguing in circles over opinions of what a "good" weapon or build is.