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#101 Novakaine

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Posted 29 February 2016 - 08:42 AM

Glad I have disposable income.
Gimme!

#102 CDLord HHGD

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Posted 29 February 2016 - 09:15 AM

View PostScout Derek, on 29 February 2016 - 08:16 AM, said:

Also with a Union Dropship confirmed(?), I feel the funs coming here more.

Must have missed that... Cool! I wonder how it'll be integrated.....

#103 Scout Derek

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Posted 29 February 2016 - 09:19 AM

View Postcdlord, on 29 February 2016 - 09:15 AM, said:

Must have missed that... Cool! I wonder how it'll be integrated.....

CW probably, for the defenders arriving, and landing, then taking off if the team loses, plus, once they land, I'm guessing that teams spawn from them.

Least on the vault they'll have some cover now huh?

#104 CDLord HHGD

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Posted 29 February 2016 - 09:33 AM

View PostScout Derek, on 29 February 2016 - 09:19 AM, said:

CW probably, for the defenders arriving, and landing, then taking off if the team loses, plus, once they land, I'm guessing that teams spawn from them.

Least on the vault they'll have some cover now huh?

Well, if used for delivery, I would think that it would mean the lance drop-zones will be pretty close together. I don't see them bringing in 3 separate Unions for the lances. Too big (unless they totally screw the size).

I'd like to see it as a capture point. Imagine the Union dominating the center of the map with various support buildings surrounding it. Inside is the capture point with entrances. The "hangar" interior would be a huge cavernous space (think like in HPG but no upper level unless they use two levels of hangars.).

#105 martian

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Posted 29 February 2016 - 09:35 AM

View PostScout Derek, on 29 February 2016 - 09:19 AM, said:

CW probably, for the defenders arriving, and landing, then taking off if the team loses, plus, once they land, I'm guessing that teams spawn from them.

Least on the vault they'll have some cover now huh?

I can imagine such Union functioning as a "timer" of a certain kind: The attacking team must be active and actually attack before the Dropship powers up and brings its weapons online.

#106 Lily from animove

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Posted 29 February 2016 - 09:44 AM

View PostMonkey Lover, on 26 February 2016 - 08:55 PM, said:

DOA Posted Image


mostlikely, 12K has only one Torso Energy, better than a MLX, yet still bad when lights have most wepaons in the arms. espeically the human shaped ones. So any notable variants with at least 2E in the Torso?

(and nope don' tell me 45 tons is medium, it's not Posted Image its just a fat light)

Edited by Lily from animove, 29 February 2016 - 09:45 AM.


#107 MeiSooHaityu

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Posted 29 February 2016 - 09:52 AM

View PostLily from animove, on 29 February 2016 - 09:44 AM, said:


(and nope don' tell me 45 tons is medium, it's not Posted Image its just a fat light)


45 ton is a Medium :)

I think of the 40 ton Cicada as more of a "fat light", but I'll agree that 45 tons is fragile for a medium. That is why I never ran the Vindicator with SRMs. I don't want to engage any enemy that close. Give me PPCs, LPLasers, or even LLasers any day. Even my SIB is currently 2LLasers, 2 LRM10+Art, and TAG.

45 tons (especially humanoid) is a bit too fragile and large for up close combat.

Maybe if the Phoenix Hawk is scaled small enough and gets the speed from MASC like Bishop was saying, maybe then it might be ok to run in fast, strike, and get out.

Honestly though, I'm thinking it needs to be more ranged. Speed or no speed, it is still fragile (45 tons) and isn't as low profile (with higher mounts) like the Cicada.

#108 martian

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Posted 29 February 2016 - 10:00 AM

View PostLily from animove, on 29 February 2016 - 09:44 AM, said:

So any notable variants with at least 2E in the Torso?

Nope. One energy hardpoint either in CT or RT is the best what you can get.

Only Phoenix Hawk LAM has 3E in torso. And of course there are Reseen Jihad Phoenix Hawk variants with torso energy hardpoints.

#109 Widowmaker1981

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Posted 29 February 2016 - 10:03 AM

View Postmartian, on 29 February 2016 - 10:00 AM, said:

Nope. One energy hardpoint either in CT or RT is the best what you can get.

Only Phoenix Hawk LAM has 3E in torso. And of course there are Reseen Jihad Phoenix Hawk variants with torso energy hardpoints.


Well, hardpoint inflation, so the one with 1E in torso might be 2 or 3 E. If we get that one. Sooo many canon variants it would probably be best to just wait for the announcement.

#110 Dino Might

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Posted 29 February 2016 - 10:15 AM

View PostDahkoht, on 27 February 2016 - 05:29 AM, said:

...

I can't recall 30 years ago or so when started playing table top Battletech with my friends who introduced it to me anyone in person ever acting like the *** nor expert on everything and all around critic who knows better like half the folks here do ,about , well everything.

I'll buy it and gift a few packs too because being comfortable in life with disposable income for hobbies ( seriously ,compared to motorcycles , Jeeps , and such, MWO is pennies in comparison ) is a good thing, but the real bonus is pissing off all the whiners , the "experts" , and the campaigners against MWO who still bother to post , by buying mech packs they don't like....

That's the one thing that's always perplexed me , how are so may genius strategist and experts in everything not wealthy beyond measure with all their knowledge and instead posting from their yacht(s)?


I like your perspective - buy it if you like it, don't if you don't. Bothering to trash someone else's preference (and this is purely a discussion on preference) seems a bit...juvenile?

I kind of like the concept art, but I am not fully convinced it's worth my real dollars. Definitely worth the c-bills when it eventually releases for space cash. I know the in-game model won't look quite as nice, but so far, the art in this game has been quite good. I always think they could do better, but I also often think they could have done a lot worse, and I appreciate the balance of time, quality, and cost.

One thing I love, and I can't explain why for this one in particular (I generally like simpler, non-decorative pieces), is the embossed torso design.

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#111 Jolly Llama

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Posted 29 February 2016 - 05:56 PM

View PostGarfuncle, on 26 February 2016 - 09:28 PM, said:

"It's a Gundam!"



Actually, it is a Veratech.

https://youtu.be/_v3ffOZL3_E

#112 Johnny Z

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Posted 29 February 2016 - 05:58 PM

It does look like its made to fly.

Doesn't some company have the licence for flying things and hand held weapon on robots though?

Edited by Johnny Z, 29 February 2016 - 05:59 PM.


#113 Jolly Llama

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Posted 29 February 2016 - 07:25 PM

View PostJohnny Z, on 29 February 2016 - 05:58 PM, said:

It does look like its made to fly.

Doesn't some company have the licence for flying things and hand held weapon on robots though?


The company that made Robotech.

#114 Rushmoar

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Posted 29 February 2016 - 08:33 PM

I like the look but would rather have the "gun arm" look the same as the left arm. Nice look but it makes the arm bigger and easier to hit.

Nice job.

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Posted 29 February 2016 - 08:38 PM

View Postcdlord, on 29 February 2016 - 09:15 AM, said:

Must have missed that... Cool! I wonder how it'll be integrated.....


Fly's into a CW map, murders one side then drops off its mechs, murders the other side on the way out.

#116 Sigilum Sanctum

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Posted 29 February 2016 - 09:23 PM

View PostCurccu, on 29 February 2016 - 07:59 AM, said:

What you mean one? Both of them got 1 beam saber stored in them, dual wield ftw.


WHY STOP AT 2!?!? LETS GET 10 BEAM SABERS UP IN THIS *****.
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Posted 29 February 2016 - 10:46 PM

View PostRushmoar, on 29 February 2016 - 08:33 PM, said:

I like the look but would rather have the "gun arm" look the same as the left arm. Nice look but it makes the arm bigger and easier to hit.

Nice job.

It...actually makes me wonder if the 'gun' will have the same mechanic as the Archer's LRM doors. With its own health and will be 'destroyed' after losing it all, or if it will be fully integrated into the arm's durability? Huh...

#118 Curccu

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Posted 29 February 2016 - 11:07 PM

View PostSigilum Sanctum, on 29 February 2016 - 09:23 PM, said:


WHY STOP AT 2!?!? LETS GET 10 BEAM SABERS UP IN THIS *****.
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General Grievous?





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