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[Rayah]

Meanwhile the Rifleman, especially the LK, are some of my best mechs right now according to my stats

I think your problem here is user error

Edited by Rayah, 02 March 2016 - 11:05 AM.

[Jaqir]

Rayah, on 02 March 2016 - 11:03 AM, said:

Meanwhile the Rifleman, especially the LK, are some of my best mechs right now according to my stats

I think your problem here is user error

It is as it often is with similar arguments: the fault may well not be in either the 'mech or the pilot, but the compatibility of the two.

[CDLord HHGD]

Boogie138, on 02 March 2016 - 10:50 AM, said:

Fire support mech is for.... fire support.



And the Jager-DD w/ 3x UAC5 and the quirks to boot still wins.
At least the Rifleman is prettier...

Ah! but he said AC40 BoomJager! Not a DakkaJager or the much vaunted AC2 PlinkJagger.

Though if your drop deck is over 5 tons, the Rifleman is a good substitute.

[Metus regem]

cdlord, on 02 March 2016 - 11:58 AM, said:

Ah! but he said AC40 BoomJager! Not a DakkaJager or the much vaunted AC2 PlinkJagger.

Though if your drop deck is over 5 tons, the Rifleman is a good substitute.

I've used a quad AC/2 Legend Killer, it is amusing....

[DiGCliff]

I really like my duel ac20 brawl build. Killing a exe solo with it was my crowning achievement it's a fun mech to play.

[TKG]

Graugger, on 02 March 2016 - 10:58 AM, said:

It needs moar lazor points... Get rid of those cruddy little ballistic hard points!

I hope your joking, if not look up the Black knight, Flashman and Lancelot, you'll probably need new pants when you see the latter two.

Volthorne, on 01 March 2016 - 11:30 PM, said:

Is that a big enough of an e-peen flex for you?

Be careful with that; he might get to asking what your shoe size is and if your free Friday evening.

[Y E O N N E]

Metus regem, on 02 March 2016 - 12:07 PM, said:

I've used a quad AC/2 Legend Killer, it is amusing....

Try 2x AC/2 + 1x AC/10. It is amusing-er.

AC/2 to give them the shakes, AC/10 to give them the sh*ts.

[S 0 L E N Y A]

Metus regem, on 02 March 2016 - 12:07 PM, said:

I've used a quad AC/2 Legend Killer, it is amusing....

quad AC2 anything is always amusing. Especially if you have a good macro and terrify the enemies at range.

It stops being amusing the moment the enemy realizes what you are doing and just decides to face tank you.

[Volthorne]

TKG, on 02 March 2016 - 07:46 PM, said:

Be careful with that; he might get to asking what your shoe size is and if your free Friday evening.

That depends. Is he buying dinner? It's going to take at least a couple large pizzas to bribe me for an auto cannon inspection.

Boogie138, on 02 March 2016 - 08:16 PM, said:

quad AC2 anything is always amusing. Especially if you have a good macro and terrify the enemies at range.

It stops being amusing the moment the enemy realizes what you are doing and just decides to face tank you.

You don't even need a macro, depending on your equipment (both physical and digital). The trick with quad AC/2s is to keep your opponent at a range where they can't retaliate - 600ish meters is usually a good place to start. Fire them in alternating pairs so that your damage doesn't spread too badly if/when rolled, but still dishes out the hits fast enough to deter closing on your position.

[TKG]

Volthorne, on 02 March 2016 - 08:56 PM, said:

That depends. Is he buying dinner? It's going to take at least a couple large pizzas to bribe me for an auto cannon inspection.

Well now you know what's happened if suddenly Papa Johns is delivering and you know you didn't order!

Boogie138, on 02 March 2016 - 08:16 PM, said:

quad AC2 anything is always amusing. Especially if you have a good macro and terrify the enemies at range.
It stops being amusing the moment the enemy realizes what you are doing and just decides to face tank you.

As for the Quad AC/4' riflemen....I think I'll have to try that just to see what happens. Though...in that case you would not need a macro as standard trigger discipline would suffice. Simply being aware of whats going on around you would be good enough to avoid being 'face-tanked' as you put it.

[Black Ivan]

What are then the best buildts for a Rilfeman to play with?

[Rayah]

Jaqir, on 02 March 2016 - 11:35 AM, said:

It is as it often is with similar arguments: the fault may well not be in either the 'mech or the pilot, but the compatibility of the two.

Probably more accurate in all honesty

[Ted Wayz]

Jaqir, on 02 March 2016 - 11:35 AM, said:

It is as it often is with similar arguments: the fault may well not be in either the 'mech or the pilot, but the compatibility of the two.

What does the pilot have to do with the Jager having more structure quirks than the Rifleman? Like double when it should only have a fraction?

[CMDR Sunset Shimmer]

Ted Wayz, on 01 March 2016 - 03:42 PM, said:

Source? Already provided my source and it doesn't say that at all. It is supposed to have 30% more armor than a Jager and be able to mix it up with lights and mediums.

Source? Tabletop record sheets, it's notoriously underarmored for it's weightclass.

[Pjwned]

Rinkata Kimiku, on 29 February 2016 - 03:26 PM, said:

This post is about new mech, which I have tested enough already.
I'll cry a bit about Rifleman, using my bad english, so just skip it if you not interested.

PGI, give MOAR love to Rifleman, please.

First of all, give armor/structure quirks to all Rifleman's semi-torsos and improve those quircks which are present already...
Oh, they need your love, PGI, trust me...
If you carry XL engine - death in one shot is very common.
If you downgraded to standard engine - huh... you'll lose weapons in no time (but half of them you lost already in garage, so you can't lose too much of them in battle).

It is very hard to fight against other magically quirked IS and naturally powerful Clan mechs for poor Rifleman.
A good game with even 600-700 damage? Miracle...

Second issue is Lazy Killer. Yes, I am correct RFL-LK's name must be Lazy Killer.
So, PGI, please, rename this mech or bring as much love as possible to this piece of sh... mech.
Rifleman hero is worst Rifleman ever. Even RFL-3C with the same hardpoints is better than Lazy Killer, because of better quirks.

Pjwned, on 18 February 2016 - 05:33 PM, said:

Oh you poor thing, your mech takes damage when getting focus fired, that must be so traumatic.

Don't worry, just cry for +100 armor quirks on every mech component and everything will be all better.

Edited by Pjwned, 05 March 2016 - 01:29 AM.

[DaZur]

Black Ivan, on 03 March 2016 - 11:08 PM, said:

What are then the best buildts for a Rilfeman to play with?

I run a -5D with xl290, 4x mlas and 2x ERPPC... Mastered.

This the first mech I've felt completely in control of....

[Metus regem]

Black Ivan, on 03 March 2016 - 11:08 PM, said:

What are then the best buildts for a Rilfeman to play with?

Both my 3N and LK for CW run standard 250's, dual UAC/5+6t ammo and dual MLas, Endo+DHS of course, up armoured all the way, save for a couple of points shaved to even out weight.

[Y E O N N E]

Black Ivan, on 03 March 2016 - 11:08 PM, said:

What are then the best buildts for a Rilfeman to play with?

I don't think that's been decided, yet.

But here are mine:

RFL-3C
RFL-3N
RFL-5D

RFL-LK

[reign]

According to gman - Metamechs. The rifleman is a high Tier 2 mech...

http://metamechs.com...meta-tier-list/

So probably not going to get any love for it.

[RestosIII]

Yeonne Greene, on 06 March 2016 - 11:37 AM, said:

I don't think that's been decided, yet.

But here are mine:

RFL-3C
RFL-3N
RFL-5D

RFL-LK

I'd have never thought to make some of those, but I'm going to use some of them just because they seem unique. Legend Killer one is definately one I'll try out.