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Orion Iic-C The New Dakka " Heavy Hitter "


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#1 Alwrathandabout42ninjas

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Posted 10 March 2016 - 11:32 AM

Man this thing is a beast. Clan XL300, Dual ERLL, dual UAC10 with the rest of the mech filled with heatsinks, Puts out firepower that rivals some assault mechs. You could go with 2 LPL, but you would be running really hot. I quite like this mech. No quirks but has enough firepower to remain viable, can easily solo mechs higher in weight class if you catch em 1 on 1.

Just got it with the MC $50 deal cause I was bored and needed some mc. Great deal for a mech that is lots of fun and has teeth to it. May play around with more builds with missiles and smaller lasers.

Edited by Alwrath, 10 March 2016 - 11:35 AM.


#2 Scout Derek

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Posted 10 March 2016 - 11:55 AM

View PostAlwrath, on 10 March 2016 - 11:32 AM, said:

Man this thing is a beast. Clan XL300, Dual ERLL, dual UAC10 with the rest of the mech filled with heatsinks, Puts out firepower that rivals some assault mechs. You could go with 2 LPL, but you would be running really hot. I quite like this mech. No quirks but has enough firepower to remain viable, can easily solo mechs higher in weight class if you catch em 1 on 1.

Just got it with the MC $50 deal cause I was bored and needed some mc. Great deal for a mech that is lots of fun and has teeth to it. May play around with more builds with missiles and smaller lasers.

I personally prefer my Orion IIC (O). 3 Mediums, 3 SRM 6+Artemis and a UAC/20, all with the largest ammo, 3 tons of srm ammo and 3 tons of UAC/20 ammo with the rest dedicated to DHS. Mwah. Perfecto.

Pic of my Orion IIC (O) by Lordred :)

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Edited by Scout Derek, 11 March 2016 - 07:43 AM.


#3 Alwrathandabout42ninjas

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Posted 10 March 2016 - 11:59 AM

View PostScout Derek, on 10 March 2016 - 11:55 AM, said:

I personally prefer my Orion IIC (O). 3 Mediums, 3 SRM 6+Artemis and a UAC/20, all with the largest ammo, 3 tons of srm ammo and 3 tons of UAC/20 ammo with the rest dedicated to DHS. Mwah. Perfecto.


Thats a nice build as well. I approve! Waiting for the rest to come out for c-bills so I can get the other 3.

Edited by Alwrath, 10 March 2016 - 12:00 PM.


#4 habu86

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Posted 10 March 2016 - 12:00 PM

Try it with 2x UAC-10, 3xSRM4. I run the same build on one of my WHKs. The DPS is beyond stupid.

#5 Alwrathandabout42ninjas

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Posted 10 March 2016 - 12:02 PM

View Posthabu86, on 10 March 2016 - 12:00 PM, said:

Try it with 2x UAC-10, 3xSRM4. I run the same build on one of my WHKs. The DPS is beyond stupid.


One of my favorite mechs is the Warhawk C with 1 LPL in the ct, and dual uac10. With the cooldown and jam quirk that thing is fullretard good.

Edited by Alwrath, 10 March 2016 - 12:03 PM.


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Posted 10 March 2016 - 12:05 PM

Yeah, after revisiting my Orion IICs I'm finding them to be pretty good. I don't have the IIC-C yet, but the IIC w/ SRM18A, 3 MPL, a UAC 10 and xl 350 works pretty well from the ~10 matches I tried with it last night. If anyone has any neat builds for the IIC-B let me know, I put Gauss + 4 ERLL on it but the low mounts make it hard to use at long range.

I definitely want to get the IIC-C one it's out for C-bills, dual UAC 10 is one of my favorite setups to use

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Posted 10 March 2016 - 12:47 PM

View PostAlwrath, on 10 March 2016 - 11:32 AM, said:

Man this thing is a beast. Clan XL300, Dual ERLL, dual UAC10 with the rest of the mech filled with heatsinks

Replace the CERLL with 3 x CLRM-15. Runs much cooler and is brutally effective. Plus the LRMs give you something to use when you don't have LOS, either because of an obstruction or because you have teammates in front of you.

The key is the pair of CUAC/10s, though. Having them in the same side torso so that they're effectively one weapon is a pretty big deal.

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Posted 10 March 2016 - 12:55 PM

Ballistics are 4 n00bz go lazors and SRMs!

#9 Alwrathandabout42ninjas

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Posted 10 March 2016 - 01:42 PM

View PostRoadkill, on 10 March 2016 - 12:47 PM, said:

The key is the pair of CUAC/10s, though. Having them in the same side torso so that they're effectively one weapon is a pretty big deal.


Its nice when you shield with your left torso, if you lose the torso though your kinda boned. Dont use lrm's that much but may give that a try, sounds fun.

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Posted 10 March 2016 - 01:58 PM

View PostAlwrath, on 10 March 2016 - 01:42 PM, said:

Its nice when you shield with your left torso, if you lose the torso though your kinda boned. Dont use lrm's that much but may give that a try, sounds fun.

It's a lot of fun, especially when someone rushes "the LRM boat" and gets a face full of dual CUAC/10. :)

The LRMs are really useful on this variant, but you'll lose that torso fairly regularly when they're equipped. They make the LT a pretty big target. Also, don't think of them as LRMs, think of them as Streaks. As I recall I carry 10 total tons of ammo (4 CUAC, 6 LRM) so you don't really have the LRM ammo to be firing at things willy-nilly. Using the LRMs as Streaks gets you much better results with this variant, at least in my experience.

#11 Armored Yokai

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Posted 10 March 2016 - 02:08 PM

People think that the Humanoid mechs are the worst but in reality
it's the chicken walker mechs that are the worst (This is 100% true fact)

#12 Alwrathandabout42ninjas

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Posted 10 March 2016 - 02:24 PM

View PostArmored Yokai, on 10 March 2016 - 02:08 PM, said:

People think that the Humanoid mechs are the worst but in reality
it's the chicken walker mechs that are the worst (This is 100% true fact)


They both have there advantages/disadvantages. : )

#13 BD RAIDR

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Posted 10 March 2016 - 04:14 PM

It's nice to see people coming around to how good the Orion IIC is. With a big XL engine they can spread damage very well, and of course the firepower they pack is ridiculous for their tonnage.

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Posted 10 March 2016 - 04:32 PM

Love to see people trying to make the Orion IIC work. I will do the same for the HGN IIC when it's out for C-bills.

I think the Orion IIC is probably no better than average, but I don't think it's entirely as useless as people claim that it is. Granted, I've never played it.

#15 Chimera_

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Posted 10 March 2016 - 04:44 PM

View PostTristan Winter, on 10 March 2016 - 04:32 PM, said:

Love to see people trying to make the Orion IIC work. I will do the same for the HGN IIC when it's out for C-bills.

I think the Orion IIC is probably no better than average, but I don't think it's entirely as useless as people claim that it is. Granted, I've never played it.

Trying to make it work isn't exactly difficult. Maybe the response was worse at launch, but I haven't seen many people call the ON1-IIC bad, since it isn't. The HGN-IIC might be another deal, but I only bought up to the Orion.

The Orion IIC is a fun mech for me because it's a bit trickier than some other heavies. It's pretty bulky even for a 75 tonner, and doesn't have any structure quirks. It can, however, carry larger weapon loadouts than any other clan heavy, since it has the flexibility of it being a battlemech. It dies pretty fast, but its short-range capabilities are insane.

I would highly recommend at least getting a single variant to mess around with once they're out for c-bills, probably the IIC-C since it can do dual UAC 10s.

I'm fine with people continuing to think it's too fragile to be viable, though. Pretty sure that's what the pair of brawler Atlai I solo'd last night thought.

Edited by Chimera11, 10 March 2016 - 04:51 PM.


#16 Narcissistic Martyr

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Posted 10 March 2016 - 05:09 PM

View PostTristan Winter, on 10 March 2016 - 04:32 PM, said:

Love to see people trying to make the Orion IIC work. I will do the same for the HGN IIC when it's out for C-bills.

I think the Orion IIC is probably no better than average, but I don't think it's entirely as useless as people claim that it is. Granted, I've never played it.


Ah tip for the 4 energy highlander IIC. Use 30+tons of SHS.

#17 HerrRed

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Posted 10 March 2016 - 06:18 PM

The mech is insane. You can set it up to have a 90 point alpha. Bigger than an Atlas. And when you consider double taping, you can output 110 dmg in a short burst. That is one cored atlas in one shot. Crazy good.

#18 BD RAIDR

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Posted 10 March 2016 - 08:03 PM

Yeah, 100 point alpha with a double tap, and approx 1.25-1.30 heat management. Insane firepower for its tonnage.

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Posted 10 March 2016 - 08:16 PM

Wait people are only realizing this now?

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Posted 10 March 2016 - 08:58 PM

I use that exact same build and yea, it really does have some great damage output. I've been doing some tinkering around with the standard chassis as well, for the week event, and I've come up with a pretty nice long range brawler: ON1-IIC

It can run a bit hot, so I don't advise firing all the weapons at once. I like to bind one ppc to left click and the other to right click, to allow for more effective chain-fire control. Gauss also has its own button, and the lrms I like to chain-fire or group-fire with the TAG. The final weapon grouping is for the TAG alone, used mainly to quicken target lock-ons.

The mech can really hit hard at long range! Some people may want to remove the lrms and focus on direct-fire, but I like the fact that I can continue to harass my enemy from cover. Besides, I already Use the OP's direct fire loadout, plus a modified ON1-IIC B with 4x ERLL, Gauss and T-Comp V.

Edited by Repasy, 10 March 2016 - 08:58 PM.






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