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[Johny Rocket]

Snuck up behind a Raven 4X and popped him right in the rear ct with 4 mpl and 2 ml and it only turned his armor orange. Only 44 points of damage on front and rear ct combined.

He didn't see me and was standing still sniping so I walked up to about 50m stopped and let him have it.

Been noticing a lot of hit reg issues but this one was just glaring.

[sycocys]

Welcome to the new MWo where they only do server maintenance once a month even though it clearly wasn't enough to do it every 2 weeks.

[Roughneck Cobra]

Tractor Joe, on 14 March 2016 - 09:45 AM, said:

Snuck up behind a Raven 4X and popped him right in the rear ct with 4 mpl and 2 ml and it only turned his armor orange. Only 44 points of damage on front and rear ct combined.

He didn't see me and was standing still sniping so I walked up to about 50m stopped and let him have it.

Been noticing a lot of hit reg issues but this one was just glaring.

Just before the trolls come in and have their say Joe, heres my only tip.

Even if you are behind the light, unless you have a 70+ Alpha, aim your alpha to the leg.

Then you've ruined their day

[Johny Rocket]

Stryker Ezekiel, on 14 March 2016 - 09:47 AM, said:

Just before the trolls come in and have their say Joe, heres my only tip.

Even if you are behind the light, unless you have a 70+ Alpha, aim your alpha to the leg.

Then you've ruined their day

yeah I expect the trolls soon to tell me its all my machine. Not really worried because yup on a purpose built gaming rig with a 50mb/sec connection.

[Novakaine]

Yep they will come and call you a terri-noob and you playing on a x386 dos box with a 56k modem.
Or that they never have trouble hitting lights because their uber-good.
Or maybe obviously you never play lights because their uber fragile.
Even though that Arctic Cheeter just managed to kill 4 mechs in a match with barely a damn scratch.
And then they will give you a salutatory "git good".
And maybe even a smiley emoticon.

[Graugger]

It's not a bug, it doesn't need maintenance.

PSR is a portion of their MM system in which the team that is supposed to lose receives a nerf to their weapons hit reg on enemy mechs. At the same time the PSR is modified for the decidedly victorious team in which their weapons roll a crit more often. Hence why you lose when your LRM 10 gets one shot right after they take the armor off your mech while their Gauss Rifle remains intact up until the point you blow their side torso off... assuming you last long enough to do so.

[Vlad Striker]

Clan hit reg not as good as inner sphere. I drive both side mechs so I know. Also use pulse laser as far as possible, it is helps.

Edited by Vlad Striker, 14 March 2016 - 11:11 AM.

[Lugh]

Tractor Joe, on 14 March 2016 - 09:45 AM, said:

Snuck up behind a Raven 4X and popped him right in the rear ct with 4 mpl and 2 ml and it only turned his armor orange. Only 44 points of damage on front and rear ct combined.

He didn't see me and was standing still sniping so I walked up to about 50m stopped and let him have it.

Been noticing a lot of hit reg issues but this one was just glaring.

Welcome to the Raven's Debut when it's hit boxes were broken EVERY game like that, making it a pita to kill.

Now it's more rare.

[TheCharlatan]

Consider it PGI's way to emulate TT.
You just rolled "snake eyes".

[Thunderbird Anthares]

Your PC sucks, your connection is a wet shoe string and you need to git gud.

Did I cover everything? :-)

But seriously, sometimes the magic wheel turns, a hamster dies, and hitreg goes to hell in a handbasket. Not to mention the rubberbanding :-)

[FupDup]

Lugh, on 14 March 2016 - 11:17 AM, said:

Welcome to the Raven's Debut when it's hit boxes were broken EVERY game like that, making it a pita to kill.

Now it's more rare.

I hate having to correct this so often...

The Closed Beta Raven's extreme durability was not caused by hitboxes. It was made supernaturally tough by nature of the game's netcode and hit registration sucking balls, which was compounded by the fact that HSR wasn't even added to the game yet.

This benefitted all lights actually, but the Raven 3L had the lucky combination of ECM + Streaks that allowed it to effortlessly wreck enemy lights while being immune to enemy Streaks itself. The Commando 2D was the second best light mech for these same reasons, but it had less weight to work with so it was a peg lower in the pecking order.

A few months before HSR got added, PGI increased the size of the Raven's leg hitboxes to exceed the size of the visual model. Basically, "Ghost Legs." I'm not sure if they got around to restoring them down to normal size yet...

...But the point is that these issues aren't always hitboxes, and it's sad that every time some kind of issue occurs people always say BROKEN HITBOXES!!!1! without considering other factors such as that crappy netcode/hitreg mentioned earlier.

Edited by FupDup, 14 March 2016 - 11:27 AM.

[Revis Volek]

Graugger, on 14 March 2016 - 11:09 AM, said:

It's not a bug, it doesn't need maintenance.

PSR is a portion of their MM system in which the team that is supposed to lose receives a nerf to their weapons hit reg on enemy mechs. At the same time the PSR is modified for the decidedly victorious team in which their weapons roll a crit more often. Hence why you lose when your LRM 10 gets one shot right after they take the armor off your mech while their Gauss Rifle remains intact up until the point you blow their side torso off... assuming you last long enough to do so.

Wow


Not enough tin foil in the world for you sir....

[Monkey Lover]

Maybe you should try to aim

Edited by Monkey Lover, 14 March 2016 - 11:46 AM.

[mogs01gt]

Vlad Striker, on 14 March 2016 - 11:11 AM, said:

Clan hit reg not as good as inner sphere. I drive both side mechs so I know. Also use pulse laser as far as possible, it is helps.

[Escef]

sycocys, on 14 March 2016 - 09:47 AM, said:

Welcome to the new MWo where they only do server maintenance once a month even though it clearly wasn't enough to do it every 2 weeks.

Been saying something like this myself for some time now. The further in the past the last patch is, the worse hitreg is. They seriously need to just do rolling server reboots or something twice a week. Probably Monday or Tuesday, and Friday. Take down the EU server for maybe an hour, after it comes back up do the NA server, and finally the Oceania server. This way people should still be able to play during maintenance.

Edited by Escef, 14 March 2016 - 12:07 PM.

[Sigilum Sanctum]

I like how theres never any video evidence everytime these threads are made.

Or I must be swimming in a flux vortex of perfect internet because ive never had these problems.

Edited by Sigilum Sanctum, 14 March 2016 - 12:12 PM.

[Mole]

I don't know why everyone always complains about hitreg. The only issue I've ever had in a long, long time that could be hitreg is the fact that sometimes I will get shot in the back and take damage to the front. And even then I'm not sure that's hitreg and not just me getting hit by another enemy that I couldn't see. I have never noticed my shots not doing any damage and I am an extensive user of SRMs and PPCs. My PPCs always register if they hit their mark on my screen. It's been ages since PPCs and SRMs had real hitreg issues where you could stand there and watch your shot smack into an enemy mech and not get a damage report.

[Revis Volek]

Sigilum Sanctum, on 14 March 2016 - 12:12 PM, said:

I like how theres never any video evidence everytime these threads are made.

Or I must be swimming in a flux vortex of perfect internet because ive never had these problems.

I rarely have issues like this either, once and a while i will get some hit reg problems but hardly every two weeks like i see people complaining about.

Must be that amazing middle of road internet i get out here in the sticks of PA.

[Bilbo]

Sigilum Sanctum, on 14 March 2016 - 12:12 PM, said:

I like how theres never any video evidence everytime these threads are made.

Or I must be swimming in a flux vortex of perfect internet because ive never had these problems.

Mole, on 14 March 2016 - 12:31 PM, said:

I don't know why everyone always complains about hitreg. The only issue I've ever had in a long, long time that could be hitreg is the fact that sometimes I will get shot in the back and take damage to the front. And even then I'm not sure that's hitreg and not just me getting hit by another enemy that I couldn't see. I have never noticed my shots not doing any damage and I am an extensive user of SRMs and PPCs. My PPCs always register if they hit their mark on my screen. It's been ages since PPCs and SRMs had real hitreg issues where you could stand there and watch your shot smack into an enemy mech and not get a damage report.

Congratulations on your good fortune. I'm just sorry I can't say the same.

[Thunderbird Anthares]

Sigilum Sanctum, on 14 March 2016 - 12:12 PM, said:

I like how theres never any video evidence everytime these threads are made.

Or I must be swimming in a flux vortex of perfect internet because ive never had these problems.

i get these issues in one form or another, usually in not so brutally obvious form

but hey, apparently they dont exist, because i dont record every single game i happen to play