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[InnerSphereNews]

Available March 15th

'Mechs Available for MC

Marauder

• MAD-3R: 2,640 MC

• MAD-5D: 4,370 MC

• MAD-5M: 4,315 MC

• MAD-BH2: 5,625 MC

'Mechs Available for C-Bills

Orion IIC

• ON1-IIC: 7,694,819 C-Bills

• ON1-IIC-A: 7,849,879 C-Bills

• ON1-IIC-B: 11,265,639 C-Bills

• ON1-IIC-C: 11,286,759 C-Bills

[Scout Derek]

Orion IIC a must for C-Bills, as a owner of them myself I am very satisfied with how they run.

A tip on building them:

If you want brawling, go with the biggest XL engine, the Agility on that thing will help you immensely in combat, and Hit & Run tactics are advised.

If you want to run LRMs on it, it's recommenced going 4 LRM 10s, and a UAC/10 along with a few mediums.

And if you want a Long Range Build, it's not recommended, but it is possible. 2 LPL and a Gauss with STD engine is what I would use, all on one side so you can shield.

If you don't think the Orion looks good, I think this will entice you:
(LordRed thanks again!)

Edited by Scout Derek, 14 March 2016 - 10:46 AM.

[Wintersdark]

Scout Derek, on 14 March 2016 - 10:44 AM, said:

Orion IIC a must for C-Bills, as a owner of them myself I am very satisfied with how they run.

A tip on building them:

If you want brawling, go with the biggest XL engine, the Agility on that thing will help you immensely in combat, and Hit & Run tactics are advised.

If you want to run LRMs on it, it's recommenced going 4 LRM 10s, and a UAC/10 along with a few mediums.

And if you want a Long Range Build, it's not recommended, but it is possible. 2 LPL and a Gauss with STD engine is what I would use, all on one side so you can shield.

God, no STD engine.

Using a standard engine on a Clan IIC mech is ridiculously stupid. A long range build works fine, but why would you run standard? Go XL, and you can run 2LPL, Gauss, and LRM's.

You're simply better off with the XL penalities when you finally lose your off side, than throwing away 10+ tons to run a standard engine.

The ONLY one I'd consider running a standard engine on is the IIC-C, and even then only to run Dual Gauss... And that's still not a very good build when compared to dual UAC10+cXL.

Hell, if nothing else, you run a cXL engine, and use the tonnage savings to use a larger engine. Then, once you've lost a side torso, the speed penalty just slows you to where you would have been with the Standard engine anyways. Why be slower from the start? And sure, the cXL costs 4 extra crit slots.... but if you mount an engine 50 rating higher, you save that immediately by adding two internal DHS anyways.

Edited by Wintersdark, 14 March 2016 - 10:55 AM.

[Averen]

Ye, Clan STD's are about as viable as Single Heatsinks.

[Cranky Puppy]

this is not good...i suspect that the marauder mechs will soon get nerfed now

[LordOfTheDeath]

sounds good, thank you guys

[Pepito Sbazzeguti]

Cranky Puppy, on 14 March 2016 - 11:11 AM, said:

this is not good...i suspect that the marauder mechs will soon get nerfed now

Quirks on this mech are far away to consider the Marauder exceptional and even if very present in the game Marauder is far away from be the king of the battlefield.

From Resistance 2, quirks in general are only a little generic help rather then an incentive to do a specialized weapon build like the Dragon-1N for example.

[Luscious Dan]

Scout Derek, on 14 March 2016 - 10:44 AM, said:

Orion IIC a must for C-Bills, as a owner of them myself I am very satisfied with how they run.

A tip on building them:

If you want brawling, go with the biggest XL engine, the Agility on that thing will help you immensely in combat, and Hit & Run tactics are advised.

If you want to run LRMs on it, it's recommenced going 4 LRM 10s, and a UAC/10 along with a few mediums.

And if you want a Long Range Build, it's not recommended, but it is possible. 2 LPL and a Gauss with STD engine is what I would use, all on one side so you can shield.

If you don't think the Orion looks good, I think this will entice you:
(LordRed thanks again!)

Jakobs from Borderlands making wood mechs now? Sign me up

[PraetorGix]

Scout Derek, on 14 March 2016 - 10:44 AM, said:

Orion IIC a must for C-Bills, as a owner of them myself I am very satisfied with how they run.

A tip on building them:

If you want brawling, go with the biggest XL engine, the Agility on that thing will help you immensely in combat, and Hit & Run tactics are advised.

If you want to run LRMs on it, it's recommenced going 4 LRM 10s, and a UAC/10 along with a few mediums.

And if you want a Long Range Build, it's not recommended, but it is possible. 2 LPL and a Gauss with STD engine is what I would use, all on one side so you can shield.

Thanks for that bit. I am still looking for excuses to get a set of these. But unfortunately I cannot help to compare them to Timber Wolves, and this one comes out losing on every level for me. Maybe I'll get one variant to check it out.

[STEF_]

Finally!

Already ready all my builds from months!

Luscious Dan, on 14 March 2016 - 01:34 PM, said:

Jakobs from Borderlands making wood mechs now? Sign me up

Must be the Woodsman prototype!
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Woodsman

[White Bear 84]

Scout Derek, on 14 March 2016 - 10:44 AM, said:

Well someone definitely has their eye on the Orion (uav top left )

Both fun mechs to run, Marauder almost as fun as the Warhammer

Edited by White Bear 84, 14 March 2016 - 02:24 PM.

[MovinTarget]

Note that one nice thing about Clan IIc is that you actually can use your IS STD engines. So yes, you may get better results out of cXLs, but if you can't *afford* them, you can at least use any IS STD engines you have lying around...

Averen, on 14 March 2016 - 10:57 AM, said:

Ye, Clan STD's are about as viable as Single Heatsinks.

No such thing as clan STD engine... they are only distinguished in the XL category...

[BD RAIDR]

Prepare for Brawlergeddon!

[Dogan]

Averen, on 14 March 2016 - 10:57 AM, said:

Ye, Clan STD's are about as viable as Single Heatsinks.

If a clanner has STD's they got it from some freebirth isorla.

[Spheroid]

Three Marauders for 12,000+ MC vs. $20 standard pack + 30 days premium. Why even sell them for MC?

[llcr0wnll]

very good

[Yozzman]

Need them for cbills ^^

[Lupis Volk]

Cranky Puppy, on 14 March 2016 - 11:11 AM, said:

this is not good...i suspect that the marauder mechs will soon get nerfed now

Marauder isn't even anywhere OP.

[BSK]

Why would anyone use a clan std-engine if there are no backup weapons in the center torso for the hulk waltz?

[Scout Derek]

BSK, on 15 March 2016 - 02:21 AM, said:

Why would anyone use a clan std-engine if there are no backup weapons in the center torso for the hulk waltz?

I forgot to mention, the C variant has 2B Variants in one ST, so that means if you want you want Dual gauss is possible.

Wintersdark, on 14 March 2016 - 10:53 AM, said:

God, no STD engine.

Using a standard engine on a Clan IIC mech is ridiculously stupid. A long range build works fine, but why would you run standard? Go XL, and you can run 2LPL, Gauss, and LRM's.

You're simply better off with the XL penalities when you finally lose your off side, than throwing away 10+ tons to run a standard engine.

The ONLY one I'd consider running a standard engine on is the IIC-C, and even then only to run Dual Gauss... And that's still not a very good build when compared to dual UAC10+cXL.

Hell, if nothing else, you run a cXL engine, and use the tonnage savings to use a larger engine. Then, once you've lost a side torso, the speed penalty just slows you to where you would have been with the Standard engine anyways. Why be slower from the start? And sure, the cXL costs 4 extra crit slots.... but if you mount an engine 50 rating higher, you save that immediately by adding two internal DHS anyways.

Yeah I know Winter, that's why I said STD engine for the long range build only, so that if needed you can go Dual Gauss, or even Dual UAC/20 if wanted.

Luscious Dan, on 14 March 2016 - 01:34 PM, said:

Jakobs from Borderlands making wood mechs now? Sign me up

I think I had another one, but I don't know where it is, lemme ask Lordred for it real quick.

PraetorGix, on 14 March 2016 - 01:38 PM, said:

Thanks for that bit. I am still looking for excuses to get a set of these. But unfortunately I cannot help to compare them to Timber Wolves, and this one comes out losing on every level for me. Maybe I'll get one variant to check it out.

The only excuse you'd have for getting these would be that it can carry a heavier payload than a Timber wolf, as well as the ability to customize at will, save for omnipods.

White Bear 84, on 14 March 2016 - 02:20 PM, said:

Well someone definitely has their eye on the Orion (uav top left )

Both fun mechs to run, Marauder almost as fun as the Warhammer

Oh yeah, that match was a bit of a hectic one.