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[BabyCakes666]

title said it all

i loved the nova cat in MW4 and hell hound spamed nova more tho dat ppc spam my god


and on a another note pitch black maps with search lights mode be real cool seeing all the gun flashes and lasers like in MW2-4 not shore with MW3

spam mechs or memes you what in game to

[Alistair Winter]

Nova Cat is damned sexy. If they gave it a frogmouth helmet / cockpit like the Black Knight? With a custom geo cockpit for the Collector's mech? Yeah, I'd be cool with that.

[Scout Derek]

Nova Cat a must, as is the Hellhound.

But the Nova Cat, has to be a all-time favorite of mine, since in MW4 I got to see it annihilate that Davion Vulture.

Also I wouldn't mind it either, as one Variant has 6M hardpoints....

[ScarecrowES]

Nova Cat is problematic, because we don't know how PGI will deal with post 3058 mechs that use clan tech. When the Nova Cat came out in 3059 as Clan Nova Cat's totem mech, NC had already left the clans and allied itself with the Inner Sphere. Nova Cat was technically a sub-faction of the Draconis Combine at the time, and the first conflict the Nova Cat mech was used in was Operation Bulldog where it was used to help destroy Clan Smoke Jaguar.

So while the Nova Cat mech was made by a clan and uses clan tech, that clan is allied with the Inner Sphere... thus making it an Inner Sphere mech. Inner Sphere mechs can only use IS tech, and only clans can use clan tech, in MWO. So PGI would have to figure out special rules for mechs like the Nova Cat and Mad Cat MkII.

[martian]

BabyCakes666, on 15 March 2016 - 07:56 AM, said:

title said it all

i loved the nova cat in MW4 and hell hound spamed nova more tho dat ppc spam my god

1) Although it's hard to say with any degree of certainty, you may get the Night Gyr instead of the Nova Cat. The Night Gyr is quite similar and fits the timeline more.

2) This is the actual Hellhound (Conjurer):

Edited by martian, 15 March 2016 - 08:34 AM.

[BabyCakes666]

ScarecrowES, on 15 March 2016 - 08:23 AM, said:

Nova Cat is problematic, because we don't know how PGI will deal with post 3058 mechs that use clan tech. When the Nova Cat came out in 3059 as Clan Nova Cat's totem mech, NC had already left the clans and allied itself with the Inner Sphere. Nova Cat was technically a sub-faction of the Draconis Combine at the time, and the first conflict the Nova Cat mech was used in was Operation Bulldog where it was used to help destroy Clan Smoke Jaguar.

So while the Nova Cat mech was made by a clan and uses clan tech, that clan is allied with the Inner Sphere... thus making it an Inner Sphere mech. Inner Sphere mechs can only use IS tech, and only clans can use clan tech, in MWO. So PGI would have to figure out special rules for mechs like the Nova Cat and Mad Cat MkII.

god dammit carnt we just lump then in clan and call it a day its a game not TT or cannon so im hoping the butt hurt dont flow

[CK16]

Please scarecrow...stop...please....it won't be an IS mech end of story....it won't be available let to any house only clans. End of discussion, stop! your points are not enough to change the simple facts of Clans vs IS. I don't care what points your bring up. It's still Clan tech and only available to clans primarily. Don't start this whole Clans that went on to be IS factions thing. Think of it this way ok? Clans vs Houses end of discussion your wish or thought process will be proven wrong over and over again, PGI will not release them as IS mechs or even shared faction.....

They both belong to clans either settled in the IS or not...Clan is Clan!

Edited by CK16, 15 March 2016 - 08:30 AM.

[Quicksilver Aberration]

martian, on 15 March 2016 - 08:25 AM, said:

2) This is the actual Hellhound (Conjurer):

Why can't we have both designs? The Hellhound is supposed to be the Wolverine IIC and the TRO art is true to that, but the MW4 re-imagining is too cool to not introduce at some point, also nostalgia.

[Pariah Devalis]

ScarecrowES, on 15 March 2016 - 08:23 AM, said:

Nova Cat is problematic, because we don't know how PGI will deal with post 3058 mechs that use clan tech. When the Nova Cat came out in 3059 as Clan Nova Cat's totem mech, NC had already left the clans and allied itself with the Inner Sphere. Nova Cat was technically a sub-faction of the Draconis Combine at the time, and the first conflict the Nova Cat mech was used in was Operation Bulldog where it was used to help destroy Clan Smoke Jaguar.

So while the Nova Cat mech was made by a clan and uses clan tech, that clan is allied with the Inner Sphere... thus making it an Inner Sphere mech. Inner Sphere mechs can only use IS tech, and only clans can use clan tech, in MWO. So PGI would have to figure out special rules for mechs like the Nova Cat and Mad Cat MkII.

Let me put it this way. You spammed the hell out of one thread trying to defend your argument, and the only person you managed to convince was yourself. The lore, the details, the basics of what makes a Clan mech a Clan mech all conspire against your strange insistence that the Nova Cat and MK 2 are somehow IS mechs. They are not.

Edited by Pariah Devalis, 15 March 2016 - 08:38 AM.

[Lucian Nostra]

ScarecrowES, on 15 March 2016 - 08:23 AM, said:

Nova Cat is problematic, because we don't know how PGI will deal with post 3058 mechs that use clan tech. When the Nova Cat came out in 3059 as Clan Nova Cat's totem mech, NC had already left the clans and allied itself with the Inner Sphere. Nova Cat was technically a sub-faction of the Draconis Combine at the time, and the first conflict the Nova Cat mech was used in was Operation Bulldog where it was used to help destroy Clan Smoke Jaguar.

So while the Nova Cat mech was made by a clan and uses clan tech, that clan is allied with the Inner Sphere... thus making it an Inner Sphere mech. Inner Sphere mechs can only use IS tech, and only clans can use clan tech, in MWO. So PGI would have to figure out special rules for mechs like the Nova Cat and Mad Cat MkII.

Lol Scarecrow after taking you to school and disproving all your sarna misconceptions with all the Battletech sourcebook sources and dates proving your wrong it's hilarious to see you still trying to spout this stuff. Keep the faith alive brother and remember no matter how often they tell you the sky is blue, tell you why it's blue and you look up seeing it's blue it's actually orange Cuse you say so

[Pariah Devalis]

That said, I'd kill for a Nova Cat... but when it is its turn to be added to the game. The Nova Cat will be a wonderful addition to the game. An incredibly flexible CLAN omnimech that can take ballistics, energy, or missiles in large quantities, with both jump jet and non-jump jet omnipods. Extremely good mech. Extremely sexy aesthetic. Totally correcting the 70 ton gap the Summoner fails to address. :\

But I am willing to wait until PGI starts introducing base chassis mechs beyond 3053.

Edited by Pariah Devalis, 15 March 2016 - 08:44 AM.

[FupDup]

martian, on 15 March 2016 - 08:25 AM, said:

2) This is the actual Hellhound (Conjurer):

MW4 Conjurer > BT Conjurer

[Jackal Noble]

Oh hey look, deathstar. That's legit. Content before more mechs I say, although novacat is a sleek mech

[Lucian Nostra]

FupDup, on 15 March 2016 - 08:47 AM, said:

MW4 Conjurer > BT Conjurer

Ugh fup.. Mw4 is no way better.. Friggin uninspired block with legs. While I actually like the tro artwork I can settle on a neither is good

[FupDup]

Lucian Nostra, on 15 March 2016 - 08:53 AM, said:

Ugh fup.. Mw4 is no way better.. Friggin uninspired block with legs. While I actually like the tro artwork I can settle on a neither is good

The MW4 version is far less blocky than the TRO art.

[Pariah Devalis]

Lucian Nostra, on 15 March 2016 - 08:53 AM, said:

Ugh fup.. Mw4 is no way better.. Friggin uninspired block with legs. While I actually like the tro artwork I can settle on a neither is good

But those high mounted shoulder hardpoints, man! So meta. Too spooky!

Honestly, I don't think either look terrible. However, I feel like the Hellhound was redesigned for no reason other than for the sake of redesigning it. That wouldn't be so bad, if they totally ignored everything about the hellhound that makes it one. I mean, they could have at least made it humanoid. How is that a Wolverine IIC? Seriously?

[Narcissistic Martyr]

Drink

[BabyCakes666]

JackalBeast, on 15 March 2016 - 08:49 AM, said:

Oh hey look, deathstar. That's legit. Content before more mechs I say, although novacat is a sleek mech

do not start this death star crap agen i was seal clubbing that is how i got it

[Tordin]

Quicksilver Kalasa, on 15 March 2016 - 08:29 AM, said:

Why can't we have both designs? The Hellhound is supposed to be the Wolverine IIC and the TRO art is true to that, but the MW4 re-imagining is too cool to not introduce at some point, also nostalgia.

Agreed! I once got corrected in a post long ago regarding the Conjurer part I would love to see the Hellhound and the Conjurer designs as well. Nova Cat? Well yes, would be nice though as described above. PGI need to decide which side would get it, IS or Clan. Or heck, maybe bothe sides but with uniqe loadouts?

[pbiggz]

Pariah Devalis, on 15 March 2016 - 08:55 AM, said:

But those high mounted shoulder hardpoints, man! So meta. Too spooky!

Honestly, I don't think either look terrible. However, I feel like the Hellhound was redesigned for no reason other than for the sake of redesigning it. That wouldn't be so bad, if they totally ignored everything about the hellhound that makes it one. I mean, they could have at least made it humanoid. How is that a Wolverine IIC? Seriously?

Original hellhound is gundam ****. The david white redesign is far better than the original art ever will be.