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[Pariah Devalis]

pbiggz, on 15 March 2016 - 12:05 PM, said:

Original hellhound is gundam ****. The david white redesign is far better than the original art ever will be.

But, seriously, the original Hellhound is salvageable. It wasn't pretty, but neither were half the mechs in MWO. At least most of those redesigns actually look reminiscent of their original design.

[Chimera_]

I definitely prefer the MW4 Hellhound over the original, it's much more unique. Unfortunately it'd be tricky to add as lore purists would probably whine like mad if they used the MW4 design, but a lot of people also love the MW4 version. I actually wonder which group outnumbers the other - I'm willing to guess the MW4 design is more popular, though purists tend to be the most vocal.

As for the Nova Cat, I think it's a great mech (aesthetically and in use) and would love to see it in the game.

It'll likely be some time before we'll see either, though.

[Metus regem]

Best way to treat the MW4 Hellhound? It's a different mech, completely unrelated to the Conjurer. There, now everyone can be happy.

[Chimera_]

Metus regem, on 15 March 2016 - 12:40 PM, said:

Best way to treat the MW4 Hellhound? It's a different mech, completely unrelated to the Conjurer. There, now everyone can be happy.

Come on, you know someone will complain that they created a new-ish mech that isn't in the lore.

Although, someone will also complain that the game getting a new engine isn't a good idea and the current one is fine.

[Metus regem]

Chimera11, on 15 March 2016 - 12:43 PM, said:

Come on, you know someone will complain that they created a new-ish mech that isn't in the lore.

Although, someone will also complain that the game getting a new engine isn't a good idea and the current one is fine.

Wouldn't be MWO (Must Whine Online) other wise....

[Widowmaker1981]

BabyCakes666, on 15 March 2016 - 09:05 AM, said:

do not start this death star crap agen i was seal clubbing that is how i got it

In fact, im bored waiting for the server to come up so ill dissect your claim to a 'legit' deathstar, because the extremely blatant lie annoys me.



That is the screenshot you posted of your DeathStar game.

These are the facts:

12 kills, 12 components means 100% CT or head kills, because STs come with arms, which is an extra component. All 12 kills were done within close range (brawling boni). 66 damage per kill avg means rear CTs or heads with a lot of splashing. The match took 4:26 seconds, so you were doing 3 dps for the entire match. including all moving time.

You claimed the following, and i quote:

BabyCakes666, on 15 February 2016 - 01:41 PM, said:

I BACK STABED EM ALL they were rilly bad im not kidding and WTF a sever melt down explain a bit more

i had 3 srm 6 and med lazers just snuch around back with ECM

The max DPS of that mech is about 13, so that is almost 25% uptime on firing your weapons. Wow, very sneaky, much skulking.

Assuming this is true, the only possible way you could have got those kills with that damage (given the SRM spread) would be to literally walk right up to the back of each and every mech point blank and splat rear CT with SRMs. (or poorly aimed headshots with the ERMLs is also possible)

Those are the facts based on your screenshots.

No one, and i mean no one, is good enough at this game to do that in 4 minutes and 26 seconds, in that mech, if their enemies moves their mechs AT ALL. Even the absolute best players would still be shooting at front armour sometimes. And you are T3, after how long? ive played my alt char for maybe 50 hours and hes T2.

I suspect this is what happened. 23 players disconnected in your match during the mass DC bug and you went around in your splat shadow cat (if that is what it was armed with, you're lying about the rest so why not that too?.. though it would be a stupid lie, because 2xLPL would be more believable) and rear cored every mech while DCd. Jason chang reconnected on your team and managed to get to the last mech and do some dmg to it, but you got the killshot (bet you were relieved).

You are a liar, and should remove your obviously not legit title.

Edited by Widowmaker1981, 15 March 2016 - 01:21 PM.

[pbiggz]

Pariah Devalis, on 15 March 2016 - 12:35 PM, said:

But, seriously, the original Hellhound is salvageable. It wasn't pretty, but neither were half the mechs in MWO. At least most of those redesigns actually look reminiscent of their original design.

DONT YOU LEBOWSKI ME LEBOWSKI THATS MY JOKE

Edited by pbiggz, 15 March 2016 - 01:01 PM.

[the hedgehog]

I would love to see the hellhound and nova cat.

And I think it wouldn't be a bad idea of splitting up the conjour and the hellhound designs.

More mechs the merrier.

[ScarecrowES]

Lucian Nostra, on 15 March 2016 - 08:38 AM, said:

Lol Scarecrow after taking you to school and disproving all your sarna misconceptions with all the Battletech sourcebook sources and dates proving your wrong it's hilarious to see you still trying to spout this stuff. Keep the faith alive brother and remember no matter how often they tell you the sky is blue, tell you why it's blue and you look up seeing it's blue it's actually orange Cuse you say so

I think it's wonderful you think this way, despite the fact that you've never presented anything that argues against the fact that Clan Nova cat was a sub faction of the draconis combine at the time the Nova cat was fielded. in fact, you yourselve have demonstrated that the Nova cat was used exclusively by factions allied with the inner sphere against the Clans. The fact that this faction is a former Clan and that the mech, despite fighting for the inner sphere, uses Clans Tech creates a problem with the way MWO seperate mechs into factions.

By tech it's clearly clan. By whose side the faction that uses it is on, it's inner sphere.

PGI has yet to say word one about how they will deal with this. In fact, I'm not sure even in the talk about whether or not the MKII will be released eventually has it ever been said which faction they intended to release it to. I think that some of you folks need to stop putting words in their mouths. I doubt Russ even has an answer for this riddle right now, because what they choose to do about mechs like these depends heavily on what their intwnt for CW and the game timeline is. If they release these mechs as clans now, and then advance the timeline of the game to 3059 later for Operation Bulldog and the Great Refusal (which are the next major events in the timeline), they'll have to change their faction to IS. It's that simple.

Releasing these mechs as clan mechs and allowing them to be used against the inner sphere is lore-breaking. Now that MWO is not considered apocryphal according to the source holders, you cant claim PGI can ignore lore and canon. And as you've readily admitted, canon has the Nova Cat totem mech being used by an Inner Sphere loyal Clan Nova Cat to fight against the factions in MWO listed as Clans. And one of those factions... Smoke Jaguar... met its annihilation under the heel of a Nova Cat.

You don't think it's weird to have the Jags use a mech that was basically the last thing many Smoke Jaguar mechwarriors saw raining destruction down on them before they died?

[80sGlamRockSensation David Bowie]

BabyCakes666, on 15 March 2016 - 07:56 AM, said:

title said it all

i loved the nova cat in MW4 and hell hound spamed nova more tho dat ppc spam my god


and on a another note pitch black maps with search lights mode be real cool seeing all the gun flashes and lasers like in MW2-4 not shore with MW3

spam mechs or memes you what in game to

Holy ****.

I don't know you

I don't understand you, OP

I don't know where you live.

But you are my new best friend for making this thread.

Novacat and the Hellhound (Mw4 remake) are the two mechs I DESPERATELY want in this game.

(also the madcat mk_II but that's another story/fight)

[CK16]

[BabyCakes666]

Widowmaker1981, on 15 March 2016 - 12:55 PM, said:

In fact, im bored waiting for the server to come up so ill dissect your claim to a 'legit' deathstar, because the extremely blatant lie annoys me.



That is the screenshot you posted of your DeathStar game.

These are the facts:

12 kills, 12 components means 100% CT or head kills, because STs come with arms, which is an extra component. All 12 kills were done within close range (brawling boni). 66 damage per kill avg means rear CTs or heads with a lot of splashing. The match took 4:26 seconds, so you were doing 3 dps for the entire match. including all moving time.

You claimed the following, and i quote:



The max DPS of that mech is about 13, so that is almost 25% uptime on firing your weapons. Wow, very sneaky, much skulking.

Assuming this is true, the only possible way you could have got those kills with that damage (given the SRM spread) would be to literally walk right up to the back of each and every mech point blank and splat rear CT with SRMs. (or poorly aimed headshots with the ERMLs is also possible)

Those are the facts based on your screenshots.

No one, and i mean no one, is good enough at this game to do that in 4 minutes and 26 seconds, in that mech, if their enemies moves their mechs AT ALL. Even the absolute best players would still be shooting at front armour sometimes. And you are T3, after how long? ive played my alt char for maybe 50 hours and hes T2.

I suspect this is what happened. 23 players disconnected in your match during the mass DC bug and you went around in your splat shadow cat (if that is what it was armed with, you're lying about the rest so why not that too?.. though it would be a stupid lie, because 2xLPL would be more believable) and rear cored every mech while DCd. Jason chang reconnected on your team and managed to get to the last mech and do some dmg to it, but you got the killshot (bet you were relieved).

You are a liar, and should remove your obviously not legit title.

i did get it clubbing seals prove me wrong

[Roadkill]

BabyCakes666, on 15 March 2016 - 02:24 PM, said:

i did get it clubbing seals prove me wrong

He already did. Or rather, you proved yourself wrong by posting a screenshot.

11 solo kills while averaging 67 damage per mech. Not possible in a game with 24 active players.

And, tellingly, you didn't post the team stats page. Because everyone else in the game has 0 damage due to being disconnected.

[pbiggz]

ScarecrowES, on 15 March 2016 - 01:07 PM, said:

I think it's wonderful you think this way, despite the fact that you've never presented anything that argues against the fact that Clan Nova cat was a sub faction of the draconis combine at the time the Nova cat was fielded. in fact, you yourselve have demonstrated that the Nova cat was used exclusively by factions allied with the inner sphere against the Clans. The fact that this faction is a former Clan and that the mech, despite fighting for the inner sphere, uses Clans Tech creates a problem with the way MWO seperate mechs into factions.

By tech it's clearly clan. By whose side the faction that uses it is on, it's inner sphere.

PGI has yet to say word one about how they will deal with this. In fact, I'm not sure even in the talk about whether or not the MKII will be released eventually has it ever been said which faction they intended to release it to. I think that some of you folks need to stop putting words in their mouths. I doubt Russ even has an answer for this riddle right now, because what they choose to do about mechs like these depends heavily on what their intwnt for CW and the game timeline is. If they release these mechs as clans now, and then advance the timeline of the game to 3059 later for Operation Bulldog and the Great Refusal (which are the next major events in the timeline), they'll have to change their faction to IS. It's that simple.

Releasing these mechs as clan mechs and allowing them to be used against the inner sphere is lore-breaking. Now that MWO is not considered apocryphal according to the source holders, you cant claim PGI can ignore lore and canon. And as you've readily admitted, canon has the Nova Cat totem mech being used by an Inner Sphere loyal Clan Nova Cat to fight against the factions in MWO listed as Clans. And one of those factions... Smoke Jaguar... met its annihilation under the heel of a Nova Cat.

You don't think it's weird to have the Jags use a mech that was basically the last thing many Smoke Jaguar mechwarriors saw raining destruction down on them before they died?

You need to stop. You're wrong. Get over it.

[LastKhan]

how bout all the mechs? just blanket all the things wanted in game.

[BabyCakes666]

if it so esy to get death star show me your title then

now abut that hell-hound and nova-cat how are we going to get PGI to at least draw some art or them and add them

[Roadkill]

BabyCakes666, on 15 March 2016 - 03:18 PM, said:

if it so esy to get death star show me your title then

It's not. It's basically impossible. That's why people look down on and mock anyone who displays the title, because we know it's fake.

[Widowmaker1981]

BabyCakes666, on 15 March 2016 - 03:18 PM, said:

if it so esy to get death star show me your title then

now abut that hell-hound and nova-cat how are we going to get PGI to at least draw some art or them and add them

lol, it's very much not easy to get, and i dont have the title - because i didnt cheat and get it when the entire match was disconnected.

Im not actually saying that im sure i wouldnt have gone round and killed all the players if i had got the opportunity (for the money, largely), but i sure as hell wouldn't display the title without video proof, personally.

Literally no one believes you got that title legit after seeing that screenshot, no one.

Edited by Widowmaker1981, 15 March 2016 - 03:30 PM.

[BabyCakes666]

NOVA CAT!!!

HELLHOUND!!!

Widowmaker1981, on 15 March 2016 - 03:28 PM, said:

lol, it's very much not easy to get, and i dont have the title - because i didnt cheat and get it when the entire match was disconnected.

Im not actually saying that im sure i wouldnt have gone round and killed all the players if i had got the opportunity (for the money, largely), but i sure as hell wouldn't display the title without video proof, personally.

Literally no one believes you got that title legit after seeing that screenshot, no one.

was seal clubbing

[Widowmaker1981]

BabyCakes666, on 15 March 2016 - 03:36 PM, said:

was seal clubbing

Disconnected seals.

Just FYI, if someone is standing completely still, not moving or firing at all regardless of what happens, that doesnt mean they are bad. it means they are disconnected.

Edited by Widowmaker1981, 15 March 2016 - 03:42 PM.