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[Snowbluff]

Dont LRM me please, on 01 April 2016 - 02:13 PM, said:

However, I'm sure it will not be flawless. It's huge and it's CT looks absolutely enormous.

Hopefully the extra available tonnage from the Clan XL will make up for it.

[theta123]

People here, really need to learn that the Kodiak is not an omnimech, but a battlemech

Wich means you can alter engines, structure, armor
AND MASC

If i recall correctly, some people clearly mentioned it here before that MASC on a battlemech is not hardwired.

The spirit bear is one mech i am not sure off. Because i am REALLY tempted in turning this into an LRM boat... yes you heard me...LRM boat

[Snowbluff]

theta123, on 02 April 2016 - 01:30 AM, said:

People here, really need to learn that the Kodiak is not an omnimech, but a battlemech

Wich means you can alter engines, structure, armor
AND MASC

Huh? I said this in the OP? And I really care for removiinng the MASC. Don't use the hero mech if you don't want the MASC. You get more hardpoints and jumpjets on the -2.

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The spirit bear is one mech i am not sure off. Because i am REALLY tempted in turning this into an LRM boat... yes you heard me...LRM boat

I guess fair is fair. You can fit like 4 A-LRM20s on that thing, and still have tonnage to spare.

Edited by Snowbluff, 02 April 2016 - 05:55 AM.

[theta123]

you cannot fit 4X lrm 20 in the spirit bear, one of the Missile slots is in the Center torso

[Steel Raven]

theta123, on 02 April 2016 - 12:05 PM, said:

you cannot fit 4X lrm 20 in the spirit bear, one of the Missile slots is in the Center torso

3X LRM 20's and a LRM 10?

Ether way, it will be comical target for any ECM mech lol

[Snowbluff]

Steel Raven, on 02 April 2016 - 04:35 PM, said:

3X LRM 20's and a LRM 10?

Oh, I guess it's got at least 2 slots in the CT. I am curious if it's 2 or 3 though.

I think one o f the variants has 2 energy in the CT. 2 ERLL for increased zombie potential? It's not a lot, but keeping more weapons when you lose RT/LT is an improvement over my timbies.

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Ether way, it will be comical target for any ECM mech lol

To hide with ECM or to use ECM against? o.0

[Nightshade24]

Steel Raven, on 02 April 2016 - 04:35 PM, said:

3X LRM 20's and a LRM 10?

Ether way, it will be comical target for any ECM mech lol

LRM 15's for clans is 2 slots.

[Steel Raven]

Nightshade24, on 02 April 2016 - 08:26 PM, said:

LRM 15's for clans is 2 slots.

I missed that. Yeah, that's going to be annoying.

[Snowbluff]

Yeah, that is quite a bit of missiles. I wonder if it will be okay to actually run it as a LRM boat, though.

[Steel Raven]

I only own one clan mech so fare (Timber Wolf) so pardon my ignorance but any other assault builds firing 75 cLRMs at a time?

It would be nice to get a idea what that would look like.

[Snowbluff]

Steel Raven, on 03 April 2016 - 09:33 PM, said:

I only own one clan mech so fare (Timber Wolf) so pardon my ignorance but any other assault builds firing 75 cLRMs at a time?

It would be nice to get a idea what that would look like.

Uh, not really. I think the Dire Wolf has some missile slots, but not as many.

Inner Sphere mechs like the Stalker can easily pull it off though. It's just that no one does it because it's too hot.


I never tried 75 on my timbie. I think the lower two missile slots are capped at 15 on that mech, giving x2 Lrm 20 and x2 Lrm 15.

Edited by Snowbluff, 03 April 2016 - 09:45 PM.

[zudukai]

Steel Raven, on 03 April 2016 - 09:33 PM, said:

I only own one clan mech so fare (Timber Wolf) so pardon my ignorance but any other assault builds firing 75 cLRMs at a time? It would be nice to get a idea what that would look like.

*sigh of disapproval over LRMS*

the warhawk can run 75 tubes, use the WHK-B or the HGN-IIC-B for assault level tonnage, the highlander can run ALRM-20 all over though, but the warhawk -B has the same CT "disadvantage" as the KDK.

Edited by zudukai, 04 April 2016 - 12:49 AM.

[theta123]

Steel Raven, on 02 April 2016 - 04:35 PM, said:

3X LRM 20's and a LRM 10?

Ether way, it will be comical target for any ECM mech lol

Yeah probaly. One of my mates suggested going 4x LRM 10 and backing it up with some ballistic firepower. But i still am not sure

[Steinkrieg]

Well, if you run 4 x cLRM10, 2 x cLPLAS, and 1 x cUAC/10, keep the c400XL and remove the MASC, you'll have 12 tons available for ammo, Clan Active Probe, and cDHS. Or, conversely, you could run 2 x cERPPC and a cGauss and ignore having the CAP.

[Steel Raven]

zudukai, on 04 April 2016 - 12:48 AM, said:

*sigh of disapproval over LRMS*

Not a LRM fan myself, I just think it's going to be hilarious to watch.

[Big Tin Man]

Steinkrieg, on 01 April 2016 - 09:10 AM, said:

350 STD = 36.5 tons
cXL400 = 33.5 tons
cSRM6 x 4 = 6 tons
cUAC/20 = 12 tons
cLPLAS = 12 tons
MASC = 4 tons
DHS x 4 = 4 tons
cSRM ammo @ 400 = 4 tons
cUAC/20 ammo @ 84 = 3 tons

= 78.5 Tons

You can find one more ton somewhere. Shave some armor, trim some ammo, etc. Not sure if there's enough slots to go endo + ferro, but that just might work too. It's a super AS7-S.

[Steinkrieg]

Easy, you have to drop the MASC to run both XL and cUAC20. That gives more weight for more ammo and dhs

[Big Tin Man]

Steinkrieg, on 04 April 2016 - 01:05 PM, said:

Easy, you have to drop the MASC to run both XL and cUAC20. That gives more weight for more ammo and dhs

Meh, nobody legs assaults. You could probably take 50 points of armor off the legs with minimal ill effect and get 1.6 tons back (1.3 with ferro).

And honestly, I'd probably switch to MPLS and all the DHS you can stuff in there, maybe add artimis too. 4x6SRM + UAC20 is going to be hot as hell when you alpha, nevermind the LPL's

[Snowbluff]

Steinkrieg, on 04 April 2016 - 01:05 PM, said:

Easy, you have to drop the MASC to run both XL and cUAC20. That gives more weight for more ammo and dhs

What would you be running the hero variant without the MASC? Why owuld you own it if not for the MASC. o.o

[theta123]

Snowbluff, on 04 April 2016 - 09:15 PM, said:

What would you be running the hero variant without the MASC? Why owuld you own it if not for the MASC. o.o

4 Missile slots.

2 LPL, UAC 20 and 4 SRM 6 artemis with 100 ton armour and 64KM/H is above what an atlas can do

But its still not an atlas...