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[Bishop Steiner]

Mcgral18, on 02 April 2016 - 11:41 AM, said:

Because the Prime CT

Dat 30% bonus, yo
It's also what every robot can do, best not to confuse the uninformed.

You really think people are going flock to shell out 20 more bucks for the Collectors? I suppose they might, but not feeling it.

[Solis Obscuri]

Does a good job of retaining some of the look of the old TRO art, while also improving on it.



Seems like a nice niche in the Clan line-up - a good mobility-oriented medium with a flexible variety of hardpoints. Not a pure bucket-o-guns,. but enough firepower to be useful, and an overall weight that helps to fill in drop limits. I was hoping to see this one show up.

[Mcgral18]

Bishop Steiner, on 02 April 2016 - 11:57 AM, said:

You really think people are going flock to shell out 20 more bucks for the Collectors? I suppose they might, but not feeling it.

It was made before the packs were murdered.

[Bishop Steiner]

Mcgral18, on 02 April 2016 - 12:13 PM, said:

It was made before the packs were mercy killed.

FTFY

[KHETTI]

Love what Alex has done with the Viper, most likely i will buy, looks fun.

[Navid A1]

Bishop Steiner, on 02 April 2016 - 12:20 PM, said:

Mcgral18, on 02 April 2016 - 12:13 PM, said:

It was made before the packs were mercy killed.

FTFY

You just pay 55$ and have fun with your shiney new viper... and leave us whiners who are actually trying to put more value in the shiny packs you're buying.

[Navid A1]

Bishop Steiner, on 02 April 2016 - 11:57 AM, said:

You really think people are going flock to shell out 20 more bucks for the Collectors? I suppose they might, but not feeling it.

The people you are speaking of are the same *****s who paid 40$ for urbie collector. a 30 ton useless light mech.

PGI got the wrong message it seems.

Good luck convincing that greedy bunch to reduce their collectors price.

[Bishop Steiner]

Navid A1, on 02 April 2016 - 01:55 PM, said:

The people you are speaking of are the same *****s who paid 40$ for urbie collector. a 30 ton useless light mech.

PGI got the wrong message it seems.

Good luck convincing that greedy bunch to reduce their collectors price.

well, I appreciate being called a "*****" and all, truly. And blanket stereotyping is always a great way to make a point. Well, actualyl it's not.

And just because you can't make it work, well doesn't make it useless, regardless of your tier badge. (I mean, if you are going act like a dbag about it, might as well respond in kind)

Navid A1, on 02 April 2016 - 01:46 PM, said:

You just pay 55$ and have fun with your shiney new viper... and leave us whiners who are actually trying to put more value in the shiny packs you're buying.

So work with people who are trying to get legitimately more value out of the packs, then whining for jumbo packs that were equally poor value for most of us. Unless you enjoyed spending 80-120 bucks a pack for maybe 2 worthwhile mechs. (And don't start on the variants, since pretty much all of them end up being run as one androgynous mess anyhow)

[Lupis Volk]

Navid A1, on 02 April 2016 - 01:55 PM, said:

The people you are speaking of are the same *****s who paid 40$ for urbie collector. a 30 ton useless light mech.

PGI got the wrong message it seems.

Good luck convincing that greedy bunch to reduce their collectors price.

Urbie isn't useless. Okay it isn't an Arctic Cheetah but in the right hands it can hold it's own.

[Navid A1]

Bishop Steiner, on 02 April 2016 - 02:19 PM, said:

well, I appreciate being called a "*****" and all, truly. And blanket stereotyping is always a great way to make a point. Well, actualyl it's not.

And just because you can't make it work, well doesn't make it useless, regardless of your tier badge. (I mean, if you are going act like a dbag about it, might as well respond in kind)

So work with people who are trying to get legitimately more value out of the packs, then whining for jumbo packs that were equally poor value for most of us. Unless you enjoyed spending 80-120 bucks a pack for maybe 2 worthwhile mechs. (And don't start on the variants, since pretty much all of them end up being run as one androgynous mess anyhow)

I was one of the ******s. And i apologize.

I can do alright in the urbie.... (see signature)

Well... i can't see any way PGI is gonna change their pricing. What sort of leverage do we have?... nothing?

[Bishop Steiner]

Navid A1, on 02 April 2016 - 02:36 PM, said:

I was one of the ******s. And i apologize.

I can do alright in the urbie.... (see signature)

Well... i can't see any way PGI is gonna change their pricing. What sort of leverage do we have?... nothing?

Our wallets, and twitter, is probably about it.

Whether or not people can or want to, resist the new shinies in numbers enough to matter, is another question. And unfortunately for you, me and everyone else, the only question that really matters. Because if PGI still see the sales they want, then whether you or I agree, they are on the right track, as a business.

My thought is that once we start pushing past the Nostalgia Purchases, and blatant Meta-Machine choices, the Mech of the Month will slow in sales too (note it was after several months of lackluster offerings and responses, like the Vindicator that they embraced the Jumbo Pack pattern, then after the comparative fail of the last couple Jumbo Packs and relative success of the Urbie, MAD and then WHM packs that they pushed out of Jumbos, and just now confirmed them dead and gone).

If and when they start seeing sales slow, that is when they are most prone to listen. (At least partially). If they don't see sales slow, then realistically, they have no reason to.

And for some dang reason I can't see yours or anyone else's (mine included) signature. Haven't for months. Pretty dang annoying.

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 02 April 2016 - 02:53 PM.

[Metus regem]

Bishop Steiner, on 02 April 2016 - 02:43 PM, said:

Our wallets, and twitter, is probably about it.

Whether or not people can or want to, resist the new shinies in numbers enough to matter, is another question. And unfortunately for you, me and everyone else, the only question that really matters. Because if PGI still see the sales they want, then whether you or I agree, they are on the right track, as a business.

My thought is that once we start pushing past the Nostalgia Purchases, and blatant Meta-Machine choices, the Mech of the Month will slow in sales to (note it was after several months of lackluster offerings and responses, like the Vindicator that they embraced the Jumbo Pack pattern).

If and when they start seeing sales slow, that is when they are most prone to listen. (At least partially). If they don't see sales slow, then realistically, they have no reason to.

And for some dang reason I can't see yours or anyone else's (mine included) signature. Haven't for months. Pretty dang annoying.

Did you accidentally disable signatures? It's easy to do with a mobile phone, you have to be really careful.

[Lupis Volk]

Bishop Steiner, on 02 April 2016 - 02:43 PM, said:

Our wallets, and twitter, is probably about it.

Yeah that's all we have. Good luck stopping people from throwing money at PGI. I'll see what we get in the pack before i throw down.

[Bishop Steiner]

Metus regem, on 02 April 2016 - 02:46 PM, said:

Did you accidentally disable signatures? It's easy to do with a mobile phone, you have to be really careful.

I'm on a computer, but don't think I did so. I remember a few months back there was a forum issue with imgur and photobucket links, and I've seen no siggies ever since.

[InRev]

The most important question is: does it come with a quacking duck warhorn?

[Nightshade24]

Gas Guzzler, on 01 April 2016 - 08:20 PM, said:

HOW THE **** IS A 139 KPH 40 TONNER OVER-ENGINED? HAVE YOU FORGOTTEN THAT 40 TONNERS DON'T HAVE THE ARMOR TO BE SLOW?

Jesus.


And screw you guys for down voting the Kingfisher

twin UAC 5 Cicada says otherwise.

[Chimera_]

Solis Obscuri, on 02 April 2016 - 12:01 PM, said:

Does a good job of retaining some of the look of the old TRO art, while also improving on it.

*snipped pic*

Seems like a nice niche in the Clan line-up - a good mobility-oriented medium with a flexible variety of hardpoints. Not a pure bucket-o-guns,. but enough firepower to be useful, and an overall weight that helps to fill in drop limits. I was hoping to see this one show up.

I think it's good to have every tonnage slot filled so at least you have the options...especially for a CW dropdeck.
(though I doubt the Viper will be used heavily in CW, since that 10 tons over a ACH could be used for a HBR -> TBR or whatnot)

Nightshade24, on 02 April 2016 - 05:08 PM, said:

twin UAC 5 Cicada says otherwise.

lol I need to try this

[Solis Obscuri]

Chimera11, on 02 April 2016 - 05:30 PM, said:

I think it's good to have every tonnage slot filled so at least you have the options...especially for a CW dropdeck.
(though I doubt the Viper will be used heavily in CW, since that 10 tons over a ACH could be used for a HBR -> TBR or whatnot)

Perhaps not, but with 75% more armor (7 tons of FF) and a whopping 8 jump jets... it doesn't look like it'd necessarily a losing proposition.

Edited by Solis Obscuri, 02 April 2016 - 08:36 PM.

[Quicksilver Aberration]

Nightshade24, on 02 April 2016 - 05:08 PM, said:

twin UAC 5 Cicada says otherwise.

No, it really doesn't.

The strongest Cicadas are the 2A, 2B and formerly the X-5, and the slowest of the trio was the X-5 with a 280-295. The 2B runs a 300 and the 2A runs a 330.

For a mech with a glass jaw and that little armor, being unable to hit from angles that an enemy doesn't expect is outright dangerous, especially with a weapon that requires that much face time like UAC5s, sorry but that is nothing more than a joke build.

Edited by Quicksilver Kalasa, 02 April 2016 - 08:54 PM.

[RestosIII]

Alex is the only reason PGI gets my money. He keeps drawing me in to buy the shinies. This definately isn't an exception. I'm going to buy it and like it as I cry from how expensive it'll probably be.