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#81 TELEFORCE

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Posted 02 April 2016 - 05:49 AM

I think the redesign looks great. My only complaint is that it should have either the hands from the Kit Fox or the Nova. The Stormcrow hands look hideous on it.

Other than that, I think it's fine. I'm looking forward to getting one!

#82 Seal Farmer

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Posted 02 April 2016 - 05:52 AM

View Postmartian, on 01 April 2016 - 07:36 PM, said:

So this is the new medium Clan 'Mech!

Clan Ghost Bear fans can be happy now. Posted Image

(better quality)
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thats not totally ugly like the sarna pics are

#83 TELEFORCE

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Posted 02 April 2016 - 06:04 AM

I think Alex' redesign better evokes a Viper than the original design did, but the original designs probably weren't supposed to evoke anything.

#84 Nyte Kitsune

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Posted 02 April 2016 - 06:05 AM

I like it. Don't use a lot of Clan Mechs (Davion Loyalist), but I'd add it to my collection eventually as the only Med Omni I have ATM is the Hunchie IIc (and only 1 of them). Only Omni's I have more than 1 of is the Timberwolf (Pre-ordered, rarely use) and the Kodiaks (Bought the set) which I can't wait to try out next month. But look forward to the Viper (Dragonfly) as I did always like that one. Now all we need is the Fire Moth (Dasher) which was always my favorite light even though its arms looked silly (Kit Fox (Uller) was my second favorite).

#85 martian

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Posted 02 April 2016 - 06:05 AM

View PostSeal Farmer, on 02 April 2016 - 05:52 AM, said:

thats not totally ugly like the sarna pics are

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Keep in mind that those Sarna pics are from the BattleTech card game that had very imbalanced art. Some illustrations were great, some were pretty ugly.

But I quite like that BW picture from the TRO:3050U.

#86 GreyNovember

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Posted 02 April 2016 - 06:19 AM

Assuming the hero has a CT Hardpoint, I probably would just shell out for him.

The ideal 8 CSPL / CERSL Build goes on just about anything.

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Posted 02 April 2016 - 06:28 AM

View PostLT. HARDCASE, on 01 April 2016 - 09:37 PM, said:

Standalone like Kodiak. Russ officially said RIP to 4 packs.

RIP to sales for pgi then =)

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Posted 02 April 2016 - 06:38 AM

Looks fun. I'll buy it.

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Posted 02 April 2016 - 06:48 AM

I'd probably do something like 3xMPL and 4xERSL. Bit more range than SPL, 44 point alpha, and an extra DHS. Sounds like a good wolfpack leader to me. Probably going to fill the same role as Cicada on Clam side. Watchout pearls. :P

#90 Mister Blastman

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Posted 02 April 2016 - 06:53 AM

View PostFupDup, on 01 April 2016 - 07:38 PM, said:

Copy-pasted Raven CT is obvious.

Expect it to be equal to Nova size because of Nova legs and shoulders.


And Nova/Crow arms and legs...

All for eleventybillion dollars!
No thanks. Dark Souls 3 is coming out and I still have last year's birthday money saved for it.

#91 martian

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Posted 02 April 2016 - 08:39 AM

View PostTELEFORCE, on 02 April 2016 - 05:49 AM, said:

I think the redesign looks great. My only complaint is that it should have either the hands from the Kit Fox or the Nova. The Stormcrow hands look hideous on it.

Other than that, I think it's fine. I'm looking forward to getting one!

Maybe PGI will offer different hands as cosmetic item for MCs.

#92 Johny Rocket

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Posted 02 April 2016 - 08:46 AM

An amphibious mech? OK.
So the nose has a basic cutter bow section but the rest of the mech is a drag. No, literally horrible points sticking out all over that will cause drag. Might as well try to push a Warhawk thru the water.

#93 pbiggz

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Posted 02 April 2016 - 09:01 AM

View PostGas Guzzler, on 01 April 2016 - 09:54 PM, said:

It's 40 tons what do you want? Would rather it be not an easy kill like a slow 40 tonner would be.


I think iv been very clear about what I want. More than 9 tons of podspace after you strip off an arm.

#94 Gas Guzzler

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Posted 02 April 2016 - 09:05 AM

View Postpbiggz, on 02 April 2016 - 09:01 AM, said:


I think iv been very clear about what I want. More than 9 tons of podspace after you strip off an arm.


But slow 40 tonners with only a couple hardpoints aren't good..Slower 40 tonners even with ample hardpoints are worth adding but still won't be as good as the speedy mechs.

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Posted 02 April 2016 - 10:01 AM

View PostGas Guzzler, on 02 April 2016 - 09:05 AM, said:

But slow 40 tonners with only a couple hardpoints aren't good..Slower 40 tonners even with ample hardpoints are worth adding but still won't be as good as the speedy mechs.


If omnis just used battlemech build rules, that is to say, no hardpoint swapping, but inflated hardpoints, unlocked structure, armour, engines, internals, and no fixed components, then you could make the mech go as fast or slow as you wanted, with as much or as little weapon tonnage as you deemed necessary.

This is becoming more a conversation now on the success or failure of omnimech rules in a mechwarrior game. We've never had them before, and incidentally, this is the first game where previously staple mechs, like the summoner, executioner (remember the mw4 gladbag?), direwolf, adder, and other mechs like it, have just kind of sucked.

What makes these mechs iconic isnt that they're clan. It isn't that they're omnimechs either, its that they are iconic by their own virtue. They look cool, they're scary robits, and they would be fantastic if they just built like battlemechs instead. The Omni-vs-battlemech divide only really mattered in tabletop, and in MWO, it seems to have succeeded in doing the exact opposite of what it was meant to do. Omnis, which were supposed to be the most flexible mechs, are without a doubt, the least flexible in MWO.

#96 Spheroid

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Posted 02 April 2016 - 10:14 AM

I think both the art and mech itself are appealing. Nobody is being forced to buy this mech. Personally my level of excitement is much higher for the Dragonfly than the Phoenix Hawk.

Edited by Spheroid, 02 April 2016 - 11:58 AM.


#97 Y E O N N E

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Posted 02 April 2016 - 10:52 AM

View Postmartian, on 01 April 2016 - 07:36 PM, said:

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Those tiny, tiny hands...

#98 Juodas Varnas

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Posted 02 April 2016 - 10:59 AM

View PostYeonne Greene, on 02 April 2016 - 10:52 AM, said:


Those tiny, tiny hands...

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#99 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 02 April 2016 - 11:15 AM

View PostMcgral18, on 01 April 2016 - 07:47 PM, said:

Also
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LegoMech actually means 9xE or 5xE/4xB

Why would one skip the CT Energy Hardpoint? I could see it on one of the models packing 2xCERLL, but otherwise, for vomit builds, seems kind of foolish.

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 02 April 2016 - 11:16 AM.


#100 Mcgral18

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Posted 02 April 2016 - 11:41 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 02 April 2016 - 11:15 AM, said:

LegoMech actually means 9xE or 5xE/4xB

Why would one skip the CT Energy Hardpoint? I could see it on one of the models packing 2xCERLL, but otherwise, for vomit builds, seems kind of foolish.


Because the Prime CT

Dat 30% bonus, yo
It's also what every robot can do, best not to confuse the uninformed.

Edited by Mcgral18, 02 April 2016 - 11:41 AM.






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