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[Gas Guzzler]

davoodoo, on 15 July 2017 - 05:20 PM, said:

Who the **** necroed it...

oh the arisen, if i didnt knew any better i would say name fits...

it wont, either hppc in torso for doubletap or... what else do you plan to get there??
i guess you could fit erll under each gauss, if not for that pesky hand actuator.
at best you can drop 9j and fit it with uac10 or smth while you put guasses on 9fc with 2x erll in torso.

im rather disappointed with 9s though, since what exactly am i to fit into 10 slot arm with 1b hardpoint... this begs for dual uac20, but dual uac20 is a ******* joke with ghost heat.
So yeah thx pgi, now my options are as follows
1)2x gauss + 3 erll
2)2x gauss + 2 erppc
2)2 uac10 + 3 lpl
ah the variety, i cant wait for another nerf to lpl, thatll increase variety even more.

2 Gauss, 3 LPL, 1 ERML should work okay.. maybe

[davoodoo]

Gas Guzzler, on 15 July 2017 - 05:37 PM, said:

2 Gauss, 3 LPL, 1 ERML should work okay.. maybe

on what? 9j wont fit it and neither will 9fc.
9s? if yes then i would prefer 3 erll personally

Edited by davoodoo, 15 July 2017 - 05:40 PM.

[Y E O N N E]

TheArisen, on 15 July 2017 - 05:17 PM, said:

How will the Nightstar be affected by Gauss & Ppc getting linked ghost heat?

Not as badly as some suspect.

First, you can still fire 1+2 Gauss and HPPC. It's a half-second split, but against larger targets that won't matter and, in fact, it may save you because the first half of your salvo was a miss and you can correct for the second.

Second, there are plenty of alternatives. 2x HPPC with AC/10, 2x HPPC with 2x AC/5, 2x HPPC with 2x UAC/5, 2x UAC/10 with 2x PPC, 3x ERLL with 2x Gauss, 2x AC/20 with 2x SN-PPC, 3x UAC/10...the list is long.

Mind you, a lot of builds aren't unique to the NSR, but the NSR was never interesting for its unique builds, only its better mounting points.

[TheArisen]

davoodoo, on 15 July 2017 - 05:20 PM, said:

Who the **** necroed it...

oh the arisen, if i didnt knew any better i would say name fits...

it wont, either hppc in torso for doubletap or... what else do you plan to get there??
i guess you could fit erll under each gauss, if not for that pesky hand actuator.
at best you can drop 9j and fit it with uac10 or smth while you put guasses on 9fc with 2x erll in torso.

im rather disappointed with 9s though, since what exactly am i to fit into 10 slot arm with 1b hardpoint... this begs for dual uac20, but dual uac20 is a ******* joke with ghost heat.
So yeah thx pgi, now my options are as follows
1)2x gauss + 3 erll
2)2x gauss + 2 erppc
2)2 uac10 + 3 lpl
ah the variety, i cant wait for another nerf to lpl, thatll increase variety even more.

Well this is the Nightstar thread and I posted a relevant question....

At the least regular AC20 should get it's GH bumped up.

I suppose the answer is "not much but you'll feel it".

[Bishop Steiner]

davoodoo, on 15 July 2017 - 05:20 PM, said:

Who the **** necroed it...

oh the arisen, if i didnt knew any better i would say name fits...

it wont, either hppc in torso for doubletap or... what else do you plan to get there??
i guess you could fit erll under each gauss, if not for that pesky hand actuator.
at best you can drop 9j and fit it with uac10 or smth while you put guasses on 9fc with 2x erll in torso.

im rather disappointed with 9s though, since what exactly am i to fit into 10 slot arm with 1b hardpoint... this begs for dual uac20, but dual uac20 is a ******* joke with ghost heat.
So yeah thx pgi, now my options are as follows
1)2x gauss + 3 erll
2)2x gauss + 2 erppc
2)2 uac10 + 3 lpl
ah the variety, i cant wait for another nerf to lpl, thatll increase variety even more.

5 days since last post is a Necro now?

OK then.

[Jay Leon Hart]

What did they do to those arms?!

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[Gas Guzzler]

Jay Leon Hart, on 13 October 2017 - 03:41 PM, said:

What did they do to those arms?!

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They butchered them because reasons.

I'd really love to hear the rationale for giving them such a downward angle.

I normally don't hold them to the concept art, but this DIRECTLY affects the performance of the mech, and the concept art clearly has the upper arm extending straight out from the torso, parallel to the ground. Not sure why they chose to change that, but its really awful that they did.

[Y E O N N E]

I already tweeted Russ about it. We'll see what we get, if anything.

[Bud Crue]

Its...its an Uziel...with no bolegs and a backpack. Wth?

[The Lighthouse]

Nightstar turns out to be really, really, really awful looking mech, with probably awful performance with intentionally super lowered arms.

[Rovertoo]

Strange, because if you look at the model the arms seem a bit skewed out of the socket. It wasnt modeled to be the way it is. Maybe its just an animation bug? Heres to hoping they fix it. Aside from the arms it looks sweet though!

[Bombast]

Does the Nightstar look like a spectacularly fat and ugly Ebon Jaguar to anyone else?

[Papaspud]

Canceling my pre-order when they pre-nerf IS mechs, lowering the arms like that is just BS, can't have an IS mech that is worth a **** without quirks, because.....balance????

[Bishop Steiner]

Bombast, on 13 October 2017 - 04:13 PM, said:

Does the Nightstar look like a spectacularly fat and ugly Ebon Jaguar to anyone else?

The torso has more in common with the Annihilator than a Marauder. It almost looks like a humanoid chicken walker like a potbellied Cataphract. I'm glad for Arisen that he seems happy with it, but IMO it looks absolutely terrible. Both it and the Osiris are almost unrecognizable.

Seriously I keep wondering if the modeler simply forgot to add the CT boxes to the Osiris.

Nova Cat looks ok, although the expected weapon nubs are as expected, disappointing. The airborne Arctic Wolf look ssolid at least.

so I guess 1.5 out of 4 ain't bad.... no wait, it is.

[Bombast]

Bishop Steiner, on 13 October 2017 - 04:33 PM, said:

so I guess 1.5 out of 4 ain't bad.... no wait, it is.

It's certainly not a fraction Meat Loaf would sing about.

[TheArisen]

In a general sense I like the model aesetically even though it doesn't match the concept art as much as I'd like. The lowered arms with the low mounted ballistic and the STs are larger than the concept art made them appear. Basically I have some gameplay concerns. I'd for sure like to petion Russ to raise the arms to be horizontal and maybe reduce the size of those backpack vent things.

[TheArisen]

I tweeted Russ and Chris about gameplay concerns. If enough ppl say something I'm sure we can get a fix implemented.
https://twitter.com/...004068697145345

[Jackal Noble]

Bishop Steiner, on 13 October 2017 - 04:33 PM, said:

The torso has more in common with the Annihilator than a Marauder. It almost looks like a humanoid chicken walker like a potbellied Cataphract. I'm glad for Arisen that he seems happy with it, but IMO it looks absolutely terrible. Both it and the Osiris are almost unrecognizable.

Seriously I keep wondering if the modeler simply forgot to add the CT boxes to the Osiris.

Nova Cat looks ok, although the expected weapon nubs are as expected, disappointing. The airborne Arctic Wolf look ssolid at least.

so I guess 1.5 out of 4 ain't bad.... no wait, it is.

The shoulders on the Nova Cat, though supposed to be bulbous, seem strangely distended, like the dome shoulder pad is a little bit higher than it should be, disrupting the flow of line from shoulder to arm.

That and the angle of the NightStars arms definitely need to be adjusted quite a bit.

And the CT of the Osiris really annoys me. you know what I'm talking about.

They must enjoy seeing how much we pay attention to this ****.

Edited by JackalBeast, 13 October 2017 - 05:15 PM.

[Rakshasa]

JackalBeast, on 13 October 2017 - 05:12 PM, said:

They must enjoy seeing how much we pay attention to this ****.

Either that or they're drinking heavily after seeing people getting genuinely worked up because internet lasers are a few degrees lower than required for optimal competitive efficiency. I know I'm having a fairly hard time taking it seriously, and I didn't spend months modelling and texturing the thing

[TheArisen]

Rakshasa, on 13 October 2017 - 05:32 PM, said:

Either that or they're drinking heavily after seeing people getting genuinely worked up because internet lasers are a few degrees lower than required for optimal competitive efficiency. I know I'm having a fairly hard time taking it seriously, and I didn't spend months modelling and texturing the thing

Well I spent a considerable amount of time and effort druming up support for this mech and to have it be bad is just sad. We're not talking about ideal, we just want it to be good and not left to gather dust and be forgotten.