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Machine Guns -- Wasted Tonnage?

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#61 MechWarrior5152251

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Posted 16 April 2016 - 07:11 AM

View PostMadcap72, on 12 April 2016 - 12:17 PM, said:

MG's don't SEEM effective, until you have 3-4+ and use them to crit hunt after can opening something with LPL's.

While thier initial damage is low, with the increasing crit multiplier, and high ROF they'll gut mechs with a surprising quickness once th armor is gone, or you can shoot into an arm hole.


The "Arm Hole" is a lie, lol.

#62 Nightshade24

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Posted 16 April 2016 - 07:18 AM

One problem with MG's is the heat.

using 1 mg is useless even though it should be usefull and using 6+ machineguns is devestating (for what it is) even though it shouldn't be.
MW: O thus far usually uses ghost heat to ballance this but... how do you add a percentage of heat additionally to a weapon that does 0?... 0 + 30% of 0 = 0. for eg...
and having many MG's do more heat then large pulse lasers and stuff is silly...

I suggest that 1-2 MG's have 0 cone of fire and have the highest crit chances while larger groups of MG's we got the more bigger the cone of fire is and less crits (clans loose crits faster then IS due to having half weight MG's. Clans can have 2 mg's for ever 1 is mg thus the lowered Crit chance is followed by the fact that it has more chances to crit.

Thus a buff to 1 damage instead of 0.8 damage it is now. the increased accuracy and reduced crits with more mg's ballances out the 'spamming' while not directly hurting the MG overall (ie making it not worth taking more then X or Y).

#63 Palor

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Posted 16 April 2016 - 07:53 AM

No wonder why PGI won't release the Piranha, if they were scared of a 6 MG light, a 12 MG light must of been the stuff of nightmares.

#64 Volthorne

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Posted 16 April 2016 - 09:55 AM

View PostPalor, on 16 April 2016 - 07:53 AM, said:

No wonder why PGI won't release the Piranha, if they were scared of a 6 MG light, a 12 MG light must of been the stuff of nightmares.

9.6 DPS. No heat. Also it has a pair of medium lasers and a small laser, ~14.5+ sustainable DPS. It only has one variant with tech earlier than 3060, so that's a reason too.

#65 FupDup

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Posted 16 April 2016 - 09:57 AM

View PostVolthorne, on 16 April 2016 - 09:55 AM, said:

9.6 DPS. No heat. Also it has a pair of medium lasers and a small laser, ~14.5+ sustainable DPS. It only has one variant with tech earlier than 3060, so that's a reason too.

It's also 20 tons, meaning that it will get 1-shotted by almost anything very easily.

This is compounded by the fact that it's a Clan Battlemech, which likely means zero quirks of any kind (like the IICs).


I'm not really afraid of the Piranha mech taking over the game.

Edited by FupDup, 16 April 2016 - 10:04 AM.


#66 Volthorne

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Posted 16 April 2016 - 10:47 AM

View PostFupDup, on 16 April 2016 - 09:57 AM, said:

It's also 20 tons, meaning that it will get 1-shotted by almost anything very easily.

This is compounded by the fact that it's a Clan Battlemech, which likely means zero quirks of any kind (like the IICs).

I'm not really afraid of the Piranha mech taking over the game.

If you glance in its general direction it will explode, yeah. The lolcust 1V still does that and it has some ludicrous torso structure quirks and usually full armor. Though, that's probably due to the stupid amount of face-time it needs to be on-target to deal any significant damage, unless you run the LPL build, which has its own problems (relating to the armor/heat department).

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Posted 16 April 2016 - 02:12 PM

View PostFupDup, on 16 April 2016 - 09:57 AM, said:

It's also 20 tons, meaning that it will get 1-shotted by almost anything very easily.

This is compounded by the fact that it's a Clan Battlemech, which likely means zero quirks of any kind (like the IICs).


I'm not really afraid of the Piranha mech taking over the game.


But but... 6 MG Spider!

:P

#68 Richard Hazen

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Posted 16 April 2016 - 02:37 PM

It needs to be a light or an assault.

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Posted 16 April 2016 - 09:30 PM

View PostVolthorne, on 16 April 2016 - 09:55 AM, said:

9.6 DPS. No heat. Also it has a pair of medium lasers and a small laser, ~14.5+ sustainable DPS. It only has one variant with tech earlier than 3060, so that's a reason too.

It's actually quite absurd. PGI plez. >:3





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