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[Mister Blastman]

Power creep is getting dumber... Glad I'm too busy to care.

[Scout Derek]

Mister Blastman, on 14 April 2016 - 05:17 PM, said:

Power creep is getting dumber... Glad I'm too busy to care.

I already knew they were going to be there, I think some already knew too, I mean, where else are they going to go? You want them more downwards towards the CT and have some funky junk going on there?

[Navid A1]

Dakota1000, on 14 April 2016 - 05:14 PM, said:

I think the missiles are just hidden behind the gun rather than actually around it, that's what it seems to me, seeing as one variant has up to 3 launchers in that torso.

This is my answer then:

[Scout Derek]

Hit the Deck, on 14 April 2016 - 03:48 PM, said:

Either what I suggest or let people choose where to put their weapon on a particular hardpoint location.

I doubt that'll happen, considering how weapon placement works.

Sigilum Sanctum, on 14 April 2016 - 03:52 PM, said:

Well of course! How else would you put the icing on the cake of nostalgia? Power Creep.

"Kodiak Base Kodiak!" - A Smoke Jaguar pilot from MechWarrior 2: Ghost Bear.

No wonder why that guy was freaking out...

[Mcgral18]

Navid A1, on 14 April 2016 - 04:57 PM, said:

The issue is the awkward geometry of the missile hardpoint, being affected by something that will never happen... the modeler missed this one.

...will there be another LRM20 where the AC sits?
20 tubes could fit using the same layout.


Seems like wasted space.

[Scout Derek]

Navid A1, on 14 April 2016 - 05:19 PM, said:

This is my answer then:

Like wrapped around it would be good, But I think I know where the M hardpoints going to be, where the shoulder is for that LBX. I think the geometry is just like that for fluff, you know?

I think all our answers should be there when they do the countdown, we get to see the loadouts.

[Navid A1]

Scout Derek, on 14 April 2016 - 05:23 PM, said:

Like wrapped around it would be good, But I think I know where the M hardpoints going to be, where the shoulder is for that LBX. I think the geometry is just like that for fluff, you know?

I think all our answers should be there when they do the countdown, we get to see the loadouts.

WHY?

WHY wrapped around it?

Missiles and Ballistics at the same time does not happen at the same time on the Kodiak LT.

Do you see Catapult - C4 missile box "wrap around" Catapult - K2 PPC barrels?... no you don't... because despite both of those occupying the same spot... they will never happen at the same time.

now i feel i'm being trolled... how can i explain it more clearly?

[CK16]

Me like! Me thinks Atlas and Dire Wolf's are getting a little nervous.

Can't wait for a 12 Kodiak Invasion rush o.O

[Mister Blastman]

Scout Derek, on 14 April 2016 - 05:19 PM, said:

I already knew they were going to be there, I think some already knew too, I mean, where else are they going to go? You want them more downwards towards the CT and have some funky junk going on there?

Nah, it's just silly--as newer stuff comes out, the power creep is real. Higher hardpoints, tighter groupings, more mounts... ridge poking powerlords feared! It just gets old, man. All the while our older chassis mope and lather teary wet in bland sullen hangars, afraid to run proud lest swift death split them through, unable to poke but instead jump and yell boo!

It's... comical.

And frustrating.

Because they said over a month ago they were going to do something--something to do with power harness limits etc., and no, not a peep but look! More high mounts with blossoms of depleted metal slugs ready to kiss proud metal with death's abrupt knell.

Anyways... I've been knee deep in stream of consciousness for the last several hours and I digress...

[Scout Derek]

Navid A1, on 14 April 2016 - 05:28 PM, said:

WHY?

WHY wrapped around it?

Missiles and Ballistics at the same time does not happen at the same time on the Kodiak LT.

Do you see Catapult - C4 missile box "wrap around" Catapult - K2 PPC barrels?... no you don't... because despite both of those occupying the same spot... they will never happen at the same time.

now i feel i'm being trolled... how can i explain it more clearly?

Dammit Navid, I'm not trolling.

I'm just offering what could be, as I see no other way of it being there.

[Mcgral18]

Navid A1, on 14 April 2016 - 05:28 PM, said:

now i feel i'm being trolled... how can i explain it more clearly?

There's 20 tubes inside/behind the AC
There's 20 tubes around that AC/LRM20

There's 20 tubes inside the lower AC

3 missiles hardpoints, with their maximum size.
maybe

Edited by Mcgral18, 14 April 2016 - 05:32 PM.

[Scout Derek]

Mister Blastman, on 14 April 2016 - 05:30 PM, said:

Nah, it's just silly--as newer stuff comes out, the power creep is real. Higher hardpoints, tighter groupings, more mounts... ridge poking powerlords feared! It just gets old, man. All the while our older chassis mope and lather teary wet in bland sullen hangars, afraid to run proud lest swift death split them through, unable to poke but instead jump and yell boo!

It's... comical.

And frustrating.

Because they said over a month ago they were going to do something--something to do with power harness limits etc., and no, not a peep but look! More high mounts with blossoms of depleted metal slugs ready to kiss proud metal with death's abrupt knell.

Anyways... I've been knee deep in stream of consciousness for the last several hours and I digress...

Hmm, understandable.

[1453 R]

That...honestly looks like a shop.

The missile placement is horrific. Visually, at least; obviously META disagrees, but those uppermost guns look almost literally taped on. It's just...ugly. I'd honestly expect better from Piranha's modelers. I know the 'variable geometry' system imposes certain restrictions, but c'mon, guys. C'mon. Guns do not belong taped to the front of the shoulder pauldrons.

[Silas7]

B.F.D people....

KDK is still going to wreck faces.

[Kaveli]

i feel like their is nothing that would make you guys happy. If the mech is weak we complain about it being underpowered and want more quirks.

if the mech is powerful we complain about power creep.

Do you want the new stuff to suck or be good? I don't understand.

[Mcgral18]

1453 R, on 14 April 2016 - 05:33 PM, said:

That...honestly looks like a shop.

The missile placement is horrific. Visually, at least; obviously META disagrees, but those uppermost guns look almost literally taped on. It's just...ugly. I'd honestly expect better from Piranha's modelers. I know the 'variable geometry' system imposes certain restrictions, but c'mon, guys. C'mon. Guns do not belong taped to the front of the shoulder pauldrons.

It's pretty typical

See Summoner, Banshee, Thunderbolt

Not the PeaceDove or Awesome, so there are exceptions. Not sure which is the rule...

[Ultimax]

Scout Derek, on 14 April 2016 - 05:19 PM, said:

I already knew they were going to be there, I think some already knew too, I mean, where else are they going to go? You want them more downwards towards the CT and have some funky junk going on there?

Yeah this is the part that is amusing.

Look at the artwork on sarna/web.

Look at the the likely hitboxes.

Where else were those ballistics going to go?

[1453 R]

At least the Thunderbolt's torso guns actually look like they're vaguely meant to be there. Can you honestly tell me those guns don't look like they're just pasted minus internal components to the front of the pauldrons? They look awful from an aesthetic standpoint.

I mean yeah. That's Grim Reminder-level meta BallistiGeddon from a mechanical standpoint, but those guns are just ferociously ugly and off-putting. It almost literally makes my eyes twitch.

Edited by 1453 R, 14 April 2016 - 05:41 PM.

[Navid A1]

Mcgral18, on 14 April 2016 - 05:32 PM, said:

There's 20 tubes inside/behind the AC
There's 20 tubes around that AC/LRM20

There's 20 tubes inside the lower AC

3 missiles hardpoints, with their maximum size.
maybe

No way there is 20 tubes behind the top AC ( it simply does not fit, based on the image)

Same for the lower UAC2, no way 20 tubes is behind that.

Unless they are not showing it on the model.... which again makes that missile rack's shape really awkward.

[CK16]

No one else is upset by the fact they have 9 PPC's (could do 11 maybe not sure what pod space there is)....I mean we thought the 11 ppl Direwolf was scaRey now we got this, this, this! What do we deem this monster o.O