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[Death Proof]

Gabbatek, on 15 April 2016 - 04:17 AM, said:

Do tiers actually represent your skill?

Not really. It's mostly an XP bar based on the number of winning matches you have. Your tier level is dependent on your team's performance and the sheer volume of matches you play. If you consistently play with a good team (or group), your tier will raise very quickly. Individual skill only plays a very minor part in it compared to your team's overall performance.

Edited by Death Proof, 15 April 2016 - 06:16 PM.

[ChapeL]

I've had matches in my Raven where all I did was Narc targets (and lament that my team has no LRMs) and scout, do sub 100 damage and see my Tier ranking go up.

At this point to me it just feels like a fancy looking number under my name on the forums

[Johnny Z]

StaggerCheck, on 15 April 2016 - 04:05 PM, said:

It is more-or-less a games played indicator... sort of.

That's not even remotely true. You have some sort of issue with telling the truth?

Death Proof, on 15 April 2016 - 06:12 PM, said:

Not really. It's mostly an XP bar based on the number of winning matches you have. Your tier level is dependent on your team's performance and the sheer volume of matches you play. If you consistently play with a good team (or group), your tier will raise very quickly. Individual skill only plays a very minor part in it compared to your team's overall performance.

This is a lot closer to how it actually works. But individual skill/score does matter. As well as win/loss and a few other factors.

Darian DelFord, on 15 April 2016 - 04:19 AM, said:

No its just a poor mans XP bar

wrong.

TheCharlatan, on 15 April 2016 - 04:19 AM, said:

Not really, no.
Don't worry about it, you will slowly rise the more you play just because of the way PSR is implemented in game (AKA experience bar).

wrong. Saying tiers has nothing to do with a players skill? Seriously?


I was hoping for more completely false comments to add to this. The search continues.

Edited by Johnny Z, 15 April 2016 - 06:40 PM.

[Johnny Z]

Ex Atlas Overlord, on 15 April 2016 - 05:12 PM, said:

Tiers represent your ability to generate a high match score consistently.

Correct a gold star for this player. And he still got trolled.

[MechWarrior5152251]

If PGI really wanted to make money they should sell Anti-Hero mechs. Instead of bonus c-bills or xp they lower your tier...

[EgoSlayer]

Ex Atlas Overlord, on 15 April 2016 - 06:03 PM, said:

This is a myth, and one that you could easily check for yourself.

It will not go up if you don't get higher than 250 (I think that's it? Maybe it's 150) match score on a win.



1) Me too, like that some how matters.

2) If all you do is 60 damage, and nothing else (no assists, no spotting, etc) you PSR will not go up on a win. That would give you a 30 match score.



If it stays equal on a loss, then once again you've gotten 250-450 (I think that's the range) match score. It doesn't matter at all how your team mates did.



If it increases then you scored over 450 matchscore on a win.... and I can't remember what it has to be on a loss to go up....maybe 650?



PSR rewards high match scores, that's it.

If you always get high match scores (450+), it goes up over time regardless of if you won or lost.

If you always get low match scores (250-), it goes down over time regardless of if you won or lost.

It's literally that simple.

The PSR thresholds are as follows:

match score	win  loss
0 to 100	 =    ---
101 to 250	 +    --
251 to 400	 ++    =
401 and up	 +++   +

Edited by EgoSlayer, 15 April 2016 - 07:06 PM.

[Felbombling]

Johnny Z, on 15 April 2016 - 06:38 PM, said:

That's not even remotely true. You have some sort of issue with telling the truth?

Pretty bold paintbrush you just used there, Johnny. It is true, or haven't you noticed that the system trends upwards? You've been around long enough to know better, and calling me some sort of liar is fairly insulting. Pull your head out of your @ss.

[Death Proof]

Johnny Z, on 15 April 2016 - 06:44 PM, said:

Correct a gold star for this player. And he still got trolled.

You pretty much climb tiers regardless of your match score if you win consistently...unless you suck every match and get a really low score constantly.

In other words, it's more accurate to say, "unless you consistently suck (i.e. sub 100 match scores) every match, you're pretty much going to gradually increase your PSR."

I think this is why people call PSR an XP bar...it places more emphasis on team performance instead of individual performance.

[Ex Atlas Overlord]

EgoSlayer, on 15 April 2016 - 07:03 PM, said:

The PSR thresholds are as follows:

match score	win  loss
0 to 100	 =	---
101 to 250	 +	--
251 to 400	 ++	=
401 and up	 +++   +

Ok, so it's less than 100 to go down all the time.....And 250+ to go up all the time.

Death Proof, on 15 April 2016 - 08:22 PM, said:

I think this is why people call PSR an XP bar...it places more emphasis on team performance instead of individual performance.

Only if you ignore the part where they have to get the match score

Now I for one think the "minimum to always go up" should be higher...

But that doesn't change the fact despite what people claim, you don't always go up unless you meet what PGI considers "decent".

Edited by Ex Atlas Overlord, 15 April 2016 - 11:34 PM.

[dervishx5]

VALIDATE ME SEN-PGI!

Who cares what Tier you are. You should rate your skill based on how you fare against the best. And we all know who the best is.

Johnny Z.

Edited by dervishx5, 15 April 2016 - 11:54 PM.

[Death Proof]

Ex Atlas Overlord, on 15 April 2016 - 11:33 PM, said:

But that doesn't change the fact despite what people claim, you don't always go up unless you meet what PGI considers "decent".

The only time you don't get a PSR boost on a win is if you fail to get a match score of at least 101. Basically, unless your team is completely outgunned or you're completely ineffectual...you're gonna hit that mark.

Edited by Death Proof, 16 April 2016 - 12:09 AM.

[EurakaLi]

cureetly trolling my lrm boat from T2 to T1

Edited by EurakaLi, 16 April 2016 - 12:02 AM.

[JigglyMoobs]

EgoSlayer, on 15 April 2016 - 07:03 PM, said:

The PSR thresholds are as follows:

match score	win  loss
0 to 100	 =    ---
101 to 250	 +    --
251 to 400	 ++    =
401 and up	 +++   +

And according to mcgral, here's the score calculator:

http://s1254.photobu...7npgqs.png.html

On and the break down of how the brownie points are divided out:
http://mwomercs.com/...tch-notes-13345

Edited by JigglyMoobs, 16 April 2016 - 12:05 AM.

[Ryllen Kriel]

If you min/max your rides and play in teams, then tiers make sense. I build fun mechs and play in PUGs....so no, tier levels don't matter much to me. I'm constantly between tiers, it's amusing but it doesn't mean much to me in regards to playing the game.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

I wish I could drop to tier 4

At least then I wouldnt be running games peppered with tier 1s -.-

[dervishx5]

Mechwarrior Buddah, on 16 April 2016 - 01:05 AM, said:

I wish I could drop to tier 4

At least then I wouldnt be running games peppered with tier 1s -.-

Playing against people better than you is how you learn to get better.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

dervishx5, on 16 April 2016 - 02:01 AM, said:

Playing against people better than you is how you learn to get better.

What am I supposed to learn from games where I get 35 damage again? Oh yes that I dont want to be in a tier with tier 1s

and I dont play this game enough to care about getting better that way. I play this like the shallow, light arcade shooter it is and always will be

So if I want to not care about the game and not be a tryhard, shouldnt I be allowed to not have to fight against ppl like that?

Without having to actually work at letting myself die enough to drop my tier (a tricky proposition being that suiciding and the like is bannable - assuming it still is that is) that is

Edited by Mechwarrior Buddah, 16 April 2016 - 02:14 AM.

[dervishx5]

Do you want a slide for your ball pit?

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

dervishx5, on 16 April 2016 - 02:14 AM, said:

Do you want a slide for your ball pit?

cant refute the point, go for the personal attack. forum warrior 101.

[dervishx5]

Mechwarrior Buddah, on 16 April 2016 - 02:15 AM, said:

cant refute the point, go for the personal attack. forum warrior 101.

cant think of anything original, post the same response, mechwarrior buddah 101.

You had no point. I'm not going to argue the ideology between casual and tryhard players. It's like arguing about faith. You either believe or you don't.