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[Mad Strike]

Is just unplayable if you're on IS side.....they just bring 4 mechs that can pack way more firepower in tonnage and is all streak SRM4s and Streak SRM6s.....

Like jenner IICs , artich cheetahs ,shadow cats and stormcrows. ...... is has way less competitive options.

Lucky my unit is not loyalist but merc with 6 days contract.

Edited by Mad Strike, 19 April 2016 - 04:03 PM.

[2fast2stompy]

Then why was the FRR/Bear scout meter last phase 86% IS?

git gud etc etc

[Mad Strike]

2fast2stompy, on 19 April 2016 - 04:06 PM, said:

Then why was the FRR/Bear scout meter last phase 86% IS?

git gud etc etc

Last bunch of matches i've won was because some clanner decided to bring a kit-fox or an adder which performances in 4v4 suck big time.

Thing is that between 20 and 55 tonners , clans have more damage potential options.

P.D: Last 2 contracts i had with ghost bear was a complete disaster , only a couple of people knew how to play so no surprise on the numbers you give me.

Edited by Mad Strike, 19 April 2016 - 04:16 PM.

[Adamski]

2fast2stompy, on 19 April 2016 - 04:06 PM, said:

Then why was the FRR/Bear scout meter last phase 86% IS?

git gud etc etc

Because FRR was able to exploit illiterate newbs that didn't know what the scouting meta was by just looking at the patch notes?

I mean, I'm running into players packing TAG & NARC, or driving Lolcusts in there.

[2fast2stompy]

Have you tried playing better?

SCR is the most powerful mech clans can field.
A splat crow does 200 damage in 9 seconds before overheating.
CN9-AH does 254 damage in 12 seconds before overheating, 183 in 9 seconds.
SCR is faster, cent tanks far better.

GRF-3M does 286 in 15 seconds before overheating, has a dead side, and is as fast as SCR.
Both IS mechs have more more sustained dps.

Streaks are killing your lights?
Maybe stay away from streak range? Focus targets? Stop bitching on the forums?

[Mad Strike]

2fast2stompy, on 19 April 2016 - 04:25 PM, said:

Have you tried playing better?

SCR is the most powerful mech clans can field.
A splat crow does 200 damage in 9 seconds before overheating.
CN9-AH does 254 damage in 12 seconds before overheating, 183 in 9 seconds.
SCR is faster, cent tanks far better.

GRF-3M does 286 in 15 seconds before overheating, has a dead side, and is as fast as SCR.
Both IS mechs have more more sustained dps.

Streaks are killing your lights?
Maybe stay away from streak range? Focus targets? Stop bitching on the forums?

Are you speaking in 1v1 terms or just trying to be a smartass ?

I do top damage in 4v4 matches on my team pal but current conditions limits my options to an oxide.

I would love to use a Yen Lo if only AC20 where slow projectiles with way more limited ammo in a mech that even if it is able to kill a single clan mech it would end so baddly hurt that another hit will kill it.

On the other hand grinfin is an excelent companion for oxides but easier to leg.....clan small pulses remember ?

Edited by Mad Strike, 19 April 2016 - 04:35 PM.

[2fast2stompy]

I am speaking in 4v4 terms, since you know... 4v4.

They bring 4 crows, you bring 4 griffins. Or 4 cents. Or whatever mix of mechs that aren't bad. You don't want to bring griffins? Too bad. You don't hear me bitching about losing in a mist lynx against "OP IS mechs".

Edited by 2fast2stompy, 19 April 2016 - 04:33 PM.

[Mad Strike]

2fast2stompy, on 19 April 2016 - 04:32 PM, said:

I am speaking in 4v4 terms, since you know... 4v4.

They bring 4 crows, you bring 4 griffins. Or 4 cents. Or whatever mix of mechs that aren't bad. You don't want to bring griffins? Too bad. You don't hear me bitching about losing in a mist lynx against "OP IS mechs".

I don't see you speaking about dying in a mist lynx but can see you bitching about other peoples topics XD XD the irony.

And even if is 4 crows vs 4 griffins , crows have thinner legs are more tanky sheshh XD

Edited by Mad Strike, 19 April 2016 - 04:47 PM.

[2fast2stompy]

Nice arguments, clearly you're not just trying to justify your incompetence to yourself.

[Mad Strike]

2fast2stompy, on 19 April 2016 - 04:41 PM, said:

Nice arguments, clearly you're not just trying to justify your incompetence to yourself.

Oh my "incompetence" i'm gonna feel so bad for some keyboard warrior trying be a smartass hahahaha dude , i play merc .... that means i give a f@ck if IS or CLANS win.

I'm speaking about the clear inbalance in 4v4 when it comes to IS vs CLAN matches , if you don't like how that sounds then you can GTFO i'm not holding you here you know :S

It would only take me to wait 5 days to use clan mechs XD so is not like a "loyalist bitching" as you want to make it look.

Edited by Mad Strike, 19 April 2016 - 04:51 PM.

[2fast2stompy]

I'm not saying you're doing it out of loyalty, I'm saying you can't face the fact that you're bad at the game and need a scapegoat to blame it on.

I gave you hard numbers showing you you're wrong, you presented nothing but your feelings and emoticons.

[MischiefSC]

Going to give it a week or two for meta to settle. Sure, streak crows are strong but bring range. We'll identify solid 4man decks and see where that goes.

[Azure Aurora]

So how about we talk about those 4 Oxide comps and all those people legging clan mechs left and right? How about we talk about that.

[Mad Strike]

Azure Aurora, on 19 April 2016 - 05:08 PM, said:

So how about we talk about those 4 Oxide comps and all those people legging clan mechs left and right? How about we talk about that.

Tried to but 4 streak boats recket them.

In the end I feel that this gamemode should be restricted to chassis that are made for the job: SCOUTING.

There's nothing about scouting on a stormcrow or an oxide ....totally breaks the game mode

Edited by Mad Strike, 19 April 2016 - 05:27 PM.

[Mad Strike]

2fast2stompy, on 19 April 2016 - 05:00 PM, said:

I'm not saying you're doing it out of loyalty, I'm saying you can't face the fact that you're bad at the game and need a scapegoat to blame it on.

I gave you hard numbers showing you you're wrong, you presented nothing but your feelings and emoticons.

Hard numbers ? hard numbers only work 100% if you have a STATIC mech something like Shutdown or testing grounds.

You don't even count geometry or speed at which legs move which is a huge advantage for mechs like the stormcrow then comes the fact tha they carry more hardware......only focusing in "numbers" without counting gameplay experience is the real incompetence here sir.

Try to bring your numbers here too then: http://mwomercs.com/...issions-really/

Edited by Mad Strike, 19 April 2016 - 05:22 PM.

[Master Pain]

For me, IS vs IS has been a lot more fun. I would like to see the max weight at 45 or 50 tons though.

[ForceUser]

Considering two teams of equal skill, on voice comms, these are the FACTS:
4 Oxides beat everything except 4 streak crows. 4 streak crows beat everything except 4 griffons.

Solution: Nerf oxides, reduce tonnage to 20t-50t.

You now open up a huge amount of very viable mechs. Jenners IIC, Firestarter, Hunchback / IIC, Cents, Cicadas, (nerfed) oxides, Enforcer, etc.

Believe it or not but we would rather be running brawler crows (or when we go IS Brawler Griffons) but a 4 pack oxides WILL and HAS wrecked any comp that isn't 4 streak crows. They are just too tanky and go too fast and have too small hitboxes and do too much focused damage to legs. And you know what, IS vs IS, they don't even have streakcrows to deal with oxides. This isn't a Clan vs IS thing, we generally go clan - IS - clan - IS every 7 days. We WANT a balanced gampeplay because we'll be playing both sides.

Edited by ForceUser, 19 April 2016 - 05:53 PM.

[Hoffenstein]

Bring 4 Spiders, clanny-granny's can't go that fast with their training wheels on.

[SilentScreamer]

Dear PGI, Paper is O.P., please nerf. Scissors is fine as-is.
- The Rock

Okay, now that is out of my system I think Force has the right idea, but might be too early to call for a nerf.

Early in the day I saw lots of cheetahs and crows clan-side. This shuts down IS lights, so out come Griffin 2Ns. The griffins were wrecking the crows last few matches. A few clanners might wise up by tomorrow and take something fast and long-ranged.

Tomorrow is another day, wait and see what it brings. Maybe a PPC mist lynx to be chased by a streak-mando?

Edited by SilentScreamer, 19 April 2016 - 09:50 PM.

[Amsro]

Quad locust quick in quick out, sucks on tiny maps. haha.