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#1 Jayce913

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Posted 19 April 2016 - 10:49 PM

I notice many mechs coming out now but I have felt that one of the more unique mech's to this time frame has been skipped over. Of course I refer to the Bushwacker, this mech is very unique as far as IS builds go, in fact the mech was developed before the year or its official release but was never able to be perfected until the clan wars due to its layout was taken from the Clans Vulture mech. Being that the clan invasion has been going on in game for a while I feel that it woudln't be too bad to see this mech finally added to MWO, it is one of the most unique builds as far as IS mech's go due to all the IS mech's layouts avoided this sort of lower profile crouch mechs due to the interference with sensors that was caused by the problems with engine shielding, causing interference with the on board computers. Granted I am a little bias being that is is by far my favorite mech in the Battletech universe, but I do feel it would be nice to see this unique mech layout realised in MWO for the Innersphere. The bushwacker was only created with clan tech and since it had already had failed prototypes it could be considered the First proto omni mech the IS ever made.

But after all the reasons posted why it would be feasible to release this mech Id like to see how many more want to see this design added in. Please show your support to bring one of the coolest mech's the Innersphere has to offer into the battle.

http://www.sarna.net.../Bushwacker.jpg (I dont own this pic yada yada)

#2 GreyNovember

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Posted 19 April 2016 - 11:44 PM

Make me a build worthy of the mech's tonnage that isnt basically LRMs or an AC10.

Then you might have a case.

#3 El Bandito

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Posted 20 April 2016 - 12:38 AM

The Wacker is a decent looking mech with nostalgic value. However, unless there is some decent hardpoint inflation and quirks, it will be a meh mech in MWO.

Pretty sure it is not XL friendly, so one has to boat SRMs + energy.

Edited by El Bandito, 20 April 2016 - 12:39 AM.


#4 Random Carnage

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Posted 20 April 2016 - 01:16 AM

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#5 Jayce913

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Posted 20 April 2016 - 04:21 AM

I'm not to worried about the hardpoints, they take make there own hardpoint choices on many of the mechs currently out that woulda been worse off then the bushwacker had they stayed true to the battletech books. Older battletech games you were able to actually boat more energy weapons with better armor and movement then a Clan Nova. But who knows what they will bring here.

Edited by Umiko, 20 April 2016 - 04:23 AM.


#6 Alistair Winter

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Posted 20 April 2016 - 04:33 AM

All I can say is: I wouldn't buy it. Even though it's one of only 3 mechs missing from my Battletech cartoon collection (the other two being Axman and Hatamoto Chi).

Offers nothing new and interesting, really. The game is too old for me to spend twenty bucks on a mech like this.

#7 MeiSooHaityu

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Posted 20 April 2016 - 06:16 AM

Haters gonna hate :)

I for one would love to have a Bushwacker in MWO. Hopefully one day that will be a reality.

#8 MeiSooHaityu

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Posted 20 April 2016 - 06:22 AM

View PostEl Bandito, on 20 April 2016 - 12:38 AM, said:

The Wacker is a decent looking mech with nostalgic value. However, unless there is some decent hardpoint inflation and quirks, it will be a meh mech in MWO.

Pretty sure it is not XL friendly, so one has to boat SRMs + energy.


There are quirks and PGI has inflated hardpoints before.

As for XL friendly, it might not be that bad. It depends on how they make it. It should be similar to the Crab in profile and size since they are very similar in torso design. The Crab isn't that bad as an XL, so it is possible the Bushwacker wouldn't be either.

#9 Juodas Varnas

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Posted 20 April 2016 - 06:35 AM

Why would anyone waste a 55 ton slot for a Bushwacker, when they can have a Scorpion?!

I mean, REALLY?!

#10 El Bandito

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Posted 20 April 2016 - 06:37 AM

View PostMeiSooHaityu, on 20 April 2016 - 06:22 AM, said:

There are quirks and PGI has inflated hardpoints before.

As for XL friendly, it might not be that bad. It depends on how they make it. It should be similar to the Crab in profile and size since they are very similar in torso design. The Crab isn't that bad as an XL, so it is possible the Bushwacker wouldn't be either.


The Crab is noticeably undersized though, which contributes to its durability. PGI's track record in 55 ton mech's size is not inspiring.

#11 MeiSooHaityu

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Posted 20 April 2016 - 06:43 AM

View PostEl Bandito, on 20 April 2016 - 06:37 AM, said:


The Crab is noticeably undersized though, which contributes to its durability. PGI's track record in 55 ton mech's size is not inspiring.


Undersized by a VERY small margin, so it shouldn't see much growth in size. Afterall, a Crab is only a tiny bit larger than a Cicada (mostly in length), so it shouldn't grow much. Besides, like it has been said many times, stop comparing unlike torso types. A mech with an aircraft torso design is long, not tall and wide like a humanoid type. Aircraft torso mechs should not be as tall as a humanoid to be appropriate for it's class.

Honestly, if anything, PGI should shrink more of their humanoid style mechs anyway.

They stick to that similar philosophy or even go a bit CT heavy like the EBJ, and it will XL fine and still be a relatively small target.

Edited by MeiSooHaityu, 20 April 2016 - 06:54 AM.


#12 cazidin

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Posted 20 April 2016 - 06:45 AM

Maybe PGI will release the Flea, the Bushwhacker, the Crusader and the Annihilator in a big mech pack? Then we'll get 4 mechs that vary in usefulness but are all nostalgic in one pack or ala carte.

#13 Metus regem

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Posted 20 April 2016 - 07:00 AM

View PostJuodas Varnas, on 20 April 2016 - 06:35 AM, said:

Why would anyone waste a 55 ton slot for a Scorpion, when they can have a Bushwacker?!

I mean, REALLY?!


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But in all seriousness,

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#14 Mole

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Posted 20 April 2016 - 08:02 AM

I'd buy a Bushwacker. Mostly for nostalgia value but I would buy one. This 'mech is heavily requested so I have a feeling we're going to see it sooner or later.

#15 Jayce913

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Posted 20 April 2016 - 08:15 AM

The bushwacker was built to have a large center torso profile, it was the whole purpose of it so it woudlnt be as easy to hit its sides.

#16 Metus regem

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Posted 20 April 2016 - 09:02 AM

View PostUmiko, on 20 April 2016 - 08:15 AM, said:

The bushwacker was built to have a large center torso profile, it was the whole purpose of it so it woudlnt be as easy to hit its sides.



Giving it a good look though, and you'll see that it will have Stalker type (or Mad Dog) type hit boxes, a narrow CT from the front and long ST's from the sides.:

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I say that as there is an MG in either ST, with a ERLL in the CT. Still I think I could make it work here in MWO.

#17 TLBFestus

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Posted 20 April 2016 - 09:45 AM

View PostAlistair Winter, on 20 April 2016 - 04:33 AM, said:

All I can say is: I wouldn't buy it. Even though it's one of only 3 mechs missing from my Battletech cartoon collection (the other two being Axman and Hatamoto Chi).

Offers nothing new and interesting, really. The game is too old for me to spend twenty bucks on a mech like this.



That may be true, but I'd wait it out and spend c-bills on an old favorite.

#18 Gyrok

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Posted 20 April 2016 - 10:33 AM

View PostGreyNovember, on 19 April 2016 - 11:44 PM, said:

Make me a build worthy of the mech's tonnage that isnt basically LRMs or an AC10.

Then you might have a case.


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#19 C337Skymaster

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Posted 06 August 2016 - 06:35 PM

The Bushwacker was a capable and handy 'mech, and there were many different configurations that can be modified.

As it's technically an Omnimech, however, one of the DEV considerations will be the permanently mounted 275 XL engine on an Innersphere 'mech.

That said, I really, really, really wanna see it introduced and would definitely pre-buy it, even as dissatisfied as I am with other features in the game (DirectX 11 disconnects, for example)

#20 CycKath

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Posted 06 August 2016 - 09:47 PM

View PostC337Skymaster, on 06 August 2016 - 06:35 PM, said:

As it's technically an Omnimech,


Nope. Unless you mean the Gauntlet, Bushwacker's Omni-Cousin, normal Bushwacker is standard BattleMech.





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