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[Revis Volek]

Gas Guzzler, on 21 April 2016 - 11:49 PM, said:

Ick. The hips are so wide... it looks awkward

Nice Birthing hips, she will be good for procreation.

[DJ Mitchell]

Those JJ intakes on it´s shoulders look bit oversized may cut the height by 1/3... also if they add to it´s STs....hmhm okay nothing that can´t be compensate with good agility and speed, but makes XLs bit more risky..

Legs may be bit closer to the CT "the wide stand" ruins the "elegance" of the design a bit.

Height compared to the Griffin looks ok, "Hunchy reference" would have been better

[Mechwarrior1441491]

Great chance I'll refund after seeing this.

JackalBeast, on 21 April 2016 - 06:39 PM, said:

Since when do all 45 ton mechs, or all mechs, have to be the exact same size? And since when is the bj the ideal metric?
These mechs are made by different manufacturer's on different planets.
I fear when I read these doa threads that some want all the mechs to fit in some homogeneous mold and that's weird and not cool. Probably in the minority, but that's my thought.
And I think the phx looks pretty sweet

Because 45 tons of material is 45 tons of material? Didn't think that had to be pointed out to the rocket scientists around here.

[TexAce]

Quit whining. It looks totally allright. The Griff next to him is 10t heavier, so about 20% more volume and it looks exactly as that.

Plus you dont see the other mechs for comparison, nor do you know if all the mechs have been rescaled already or not.

Edited by TexAce, 22 April 2016 - 01:28 AM.

[Jaeger Gonzo]

The head is screwed up again. Did they not learn anything?

Can we please make a campaign as with Warhammer about it, to save Phoenix.

[jss78]

Looks pretty much right compared to the Griffin. Marauder hard to compare to as it has immense lengthwise bulk which is not shown.

[Koniving]

JackalBeast, on 21 April 2016 - 06:39 PM, said:

Since when do all 45 ton mechs, or all mechs, have to be the exact same size? And since when is the bj the ideal metric?
These mechs are made by different manufacturer's on different planets.
I fear when I read these doa threads that some want all the mechs to fit in some homogeneous mold and that's weird and not cool. Probably in the minority, but that's my thought.
And I think the phx looks pretty sweet

It looks good even though hips look so insanely over-built. More specifically the thighs compared to pelvis.

I agree with you and yet I must point out this is about vindicator size. Vindi is larger and bulkier than timberwolf in height and limb thickness.

They are doing several downward rescales of heavier Mechs and BJ is taller than 3 out of 5 50 ton Mechs on the I.S. side.

Furthermore, though this point is pretty moot... Tallest mech until 3055 is 14.4 meters in BT. Hunchback in mwo is 13.6, Vindicator is 15+ meters. Centuríon is 14.7 meters in mwo.

This oversize thing is costing the team money as it is in trying to rescale the blunders. To make another is practically a misappropriation of funds.

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This said I'm all for variance in sizes. But BT had good reason for it (SHK is very short in the 2 and 3 series but look at their armor, now compare to the radically taller SHK 5 series and its armor!)
Mwo doesn't have good reason.

Edit: Android type correction problems.

Edited by Koniving, 22 April 2016 - 03:42 AM.

[dervishx5]

It will be scaled down eventually. 2018 at the latest.

[GreenHell]

Cazadin has a point. This might not be a reflection on how huge the PXH will be, but rather how SMALL the other mechs will be? We don't know if PGI have updated their test models to reflect the new scale.

[Malleus011]

Head looks oversized. Hips could be quite a bit narrower.

Edited by Malleus011, 22 April 2016 - 08:36 AM.

[Ultimax]

ChewBaka, on 21 April 2016 - 06:00 PM, said:

Considering that the mech hasn't been released yet, I'm willing to give PGI the benefit of the doubt ...

Change the word "mech" to "game" and you have basically summed up the entire history of MWO.

[CDLord HHGD]

What happened to the pistol grip weapon mount? I don't see it in the "all weapons" pic.... 8(

[Jackal Noble]

Hips may seem too wide to some, but it is pretty true to concept. same for the arms, just compare the twitch capture. Also, the model will look different in motion, or its in game stance

[Lucian Nostra]

Phawk is perfectly acceptable next to that Griffin, thinner shorter really looks spot on scaling wise. can't really look at the marauder since it's a long mech this will be short.

[Jackal Noble]

The vibe I get from these posts

[Morggo]

Looks correct to me (especially if you look at the post above where the intakes were shaded out).

I don't typically use XL's in my mediums much but given how this looks I'd agree a little twisting and the arms will shield that tiny side torso perfectly. (this assumes those intakes are not going to be hittable side torso structure...)

Looking forward to getting my 'Hawks!

[GreenHell]

It also doesn't look very graceful just sort of... standing there in the stock pose. We need footage of it in motion with other mechs of similar size moving near it.

[0bsidion]

JackalBeast, on 22 April 2016 - 08:44 AM, said:

Hips may seem too wide to some, but it is pretty true to concept. same for the arms, just compare the twitch capture. Also, the model will look different in motion, or its in game stance

No it isn't.


How can you say that^^ looks like this:

The bloody elbows are resting on its bloody hips. What happened between the orthos and the model PGI? Come on.

[Jackal Noble]

Malleus011, on 22 April 2016 - 08:35 AM, said:

Head looks oversized.

[Gas Guzzler]

Yeah the concept art hips look narrower to me.