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[CJ Daxion]

ALEXANDER CARLYLE, on 16 September 2016 - 09:27 AM, said:

Are you that uninformed? ECM is getting countered and then the OP Streak Crows wipe everyone out. The nerf is coming and there is nothing you can do to stop it. You can't have a game that lets one mech dominate. its idiotic. Go to 45 tons for Clan scouting and 65 for I.S. That is much more balanced. Then you can learn to adapt.

How exactly does a 120KPH+ light get caught by a streak crow?? (though just about every IS light runs over 140 KPH anyway, so no clue how they are getting caught by a 104 KPH crow, outside of running around a blind corner and getting ambushed.)

IS's counter to Streak crows, is Bringing the heavies! aka,, Boating LL's or LPL's, Or AC20, or multiple 5's, or guass..

Come across a streak lance, bringing those weapons and it is laughable how fast they die. Streak crows are good for one thing.. Killing Small laser/pulse boats or SRM lights.., Even ML boats can out range them

Monkey Lover, on 16 September 2016 - 10:45 AM, said:

Allow us to bring any mech we want. This will fix the issue. There is zero reasons to make this light medium only. If someone wants to Steiner scout lance so be it. If you want to counter this with 4 locust collecting only points that's great too.

Ehhhhh.. I kinda wanna agree with you on this! But i just can't, Camp the spawn and it would be really tough.. Unless of course if you win collecting, and get to designate your LD


BTW, i love the idea of factions being stuck with only being able to use their LORE mechs.. Ohh wait, you didn't suggest that did you?

[Monkey Lover]

CJ Daxion, on 16 September 2016 - 10:51 AM, said:

BTW, i love the idea of factions being stuck with only being able to use their LORE mechs.. Ohh wait, you didn't suggest that did you?

Some lore mech based events would be really fun.

[Mole]

Telling me to just bring a team of ECM 'mechs to counter streak crows is not a solution to the problem. The fact that I have to specialize my team to hard counter one 'mech is a problem in itself.

Edited by Mole, 16 September 2016 - 03:10 PM.

[Bohxim]

Don't have to be an ecm mech. Any solid med brawler works too. Just that overlapping ecm really give streak crows a headache. Although this past week I've been getting a lot of pulse boat novas and crows which rest test your twisting and group fire movement

[Davers]

Team Chevy86, on 23 April 2016 - 01:24 AM, said:

What a surprise. The mode has been out for 4 days. Counters to counter the counters. Saw that coming

So now it's been 5 months and the mode is still dominated by SRMs, regular and streak. Still waiting for that new counter.

[Mad Strike]

streakcrow nerf for scouting ?! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I've seen many of them going down in seconds because of teams made by a mix of AC20 and SRM mediums.

[Champion of Khorne Lord of Blood]

ALEXANDER CARLYLE, on 16 September 2016 - 09:27 AM, said:

Are you that uninformed? ECM is getting countered and then the OP Streak Crows wipe everyone out. The nerf is coming and there is nothing you can do to stop it. You can't have a game that lets one mech dominate. its idiotic. Go to 45 tons for Clan scouting and 65 for I.S. That is much more balanced. Then you can learn to adapt.

This is up there as one of the absolute stupidest, idiotic comments I've ever read on these forums, and boy are there are lot of them.

For one, Streakcrow is one of the worst options to bring and I hate getting them stuck on my team when I'm scouting. They have terrible DPS and the damage spreads all over, the only way they get kills are if the enemy is a potato with a terrible loadout or a light mech who doesn't ever press R. Bringing normal SRMs or better yet boating small pulse lasers is what wins clan matches. I can kill two IS 55 tonners with my Nova small pulse laser boat without even overheating if they bring XLs, only thing keeping it remotely balanced is that I get outranged by just about everything.

Also "great" suggestion there putting Shadow Cats up against IS workhorse heavies. I honestly want to hear the reasoning behind why you even could begin to think this idea was sane. Really.

Edited by Dakota1000, 17 September 2016 - 04:25 PM.

[DrxAbstract]

Rhent, on 22 April 2016 - 04:08 PM, said:

Its called running medium mechs with ECM to completely screw the Streakcrows out from being effective and the tryhards will start running other mechs. In the mean time, enjoy the builds listed below and the INSTANT WINS against Streakcrows as long as at least some of your team are running them.

Even if you have guys running Pirates Bane, they can win 50% of all matches by their self because all they have to do on Scout missions is run to the drop ship and as soon as they touch the dropship zone its instant win.

There are 2 IS 55 tonner mediums that runs ECM and boats 4 SRM's that destroys streak crows 1 on 1, and when running flocks, complete shut the streak crow down from being able to fire their streaks.

GRF-2N XL
ECM
4X SRM6
2 ML
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...fd9af6be4e3304c

GRF-2N STD
ECM
2 X ASRM6
2 X ASRM4
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...8e41c0c76489b4a

Honorable mention is a 40 tonner that outruns the Streakcrows by 20 KPH, outranges them with ERLL by a good 300M range and oh also runs ECM. It can come in, mix up denying streakcrows locks, and then run away if taking damage and act as an ERLL sniper and pick the streakcrow to pieces at its leisure.

CDA-3M XL
ECM
2 ERLL
2 ML


http://mwo.smurfy-ne...a5a172193576509

LoL...

Grffin Killer perhaps if I get tired of kiting you to death from beyond your SRMs effective range I'll turn around and roflstomp your heat meter into the dirt and finish you off while laughing at your feeble 2 launcher per 13 second firing rate due to heat.

Griffin kills Skillcrow 1 on 1? Yeah... Nope. I eat Griffins for breakfast, cook Crabs for lunch and serve up fresh Wolverine with a side of Shadowhawk for dinner playing Blackjacks so hard every hand is 21 while the Hunchback plays the ejection-pod symphony in the back... Poor Enforcer never gets in the door.

Come at me bro.

[JC Daxion]

Mole, on 16 September 2016 - 03:09 PM, said:

Telling me to just bring a team of ECM 'mechs to counter streak crows is not a solution to the problem. The fact that I have to specialize my team to hard counter one 'mech is a problem in itself.

Funny.. i swear the first match i played after reading this thread yesterday... I was with a Nova, and i'm running a Partial Streak+SPL's crow..

the other team had a pair of ERLL cicada's... Not a single thing i could do about it.. could not catch them, and they were fast enough to make wide arcs even when we did find cover.

I'd of rather taken my chances verse any other brawler IS side.. because in this sitution on many maps, there is ZERO you can do other than try to hide. Sure it works on many maps, But a bunch, in many spots you are totally screwed.

[crashlogic]

no scouting should have a 45 ton limit.

[JC Daxion]

Dakota1000, on 17 September 2016 - 09:17 AM, said:

Also "great" suggestion there putting Shadow Cats up against IS workhorse heavies. I honestly want to hear the reasoning behind why you even could begin to think this idea was sane. Really.

Stay out of the SRM/AC-20 mech range and use large pulse? Seams to work well from my experiance.

With only 4 mechs, it is kinda a crap shoot, depending on the drop it can be an easy win..


Like yesterday one drop, i was in a clan lance, i had some streaks, we had 2 crows, maybe 3.. something lighter too. maybe an adder or was it an ice feret? I ran into the scout lance first. Spider, 2 urbies, and a locust, but i didn't know this at the time, i just saw the locust, and thought he had ran ahead so i tired for a quick kill... Win right??

Well i didn't see the urbies that were camped just around the corner about 200m away behind a rock. (map was grim) It rattled me, but i twisted and got back to cover, but was pretty banged up from just one volley. BAM, BAM! i got double AC20'd.. guess those urbies were not boating Lasers! I then saw the 3 MPL spider, and my team was close as well, and at this point i was not getting away, so i kept engaged but swapped from the locust to the 2 urbies. We took them down, and finished off the locust, but by that time the spider was gone.. No way anyone on my team could catch him.. He got his data, I only had one leg left, and actually found the LZ.. I camped it, called the location, But the spider JJ'd in, and won the match.

the point is, You can't plan for every drop combo.. and sometimes the drops are just favored one way or another.

[badaa]

i killed 3 streakcrows in a cent-a no ecm in a scouting matrch if u run streakcrows in scouting more likely than not ur hurting ur team

Edited by badaa, 17 September 2016 - 12:36 PM.

[VorpalAnvil]

crashlogic, on 17 September 2016 - 09:46 AM, said:

no scouting should have a 45 ton limit.

If you aren't smart enough to counter a skillcrow you are still gonna get farmed at 45 tons. Potatoes are good at precisely one thing; being potatoes.