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[STEF_]

I think "skillcrow" everywhere is another hint of how bad the state of playerbase is.

"Skillcrow" is so called from very long ago, good for the ones who lack of aiming skill, and good enough vs lights only.

I lost the count in how many skillcrows I've killed using crabs and centurions

Very fun, indeed

[Aetes Nakatomi]

Been smashing Streakcrows in my HBK-4P, my FS9-S and my CN9-YLW. I am much more afraid of the small laser Nova pilots than any of the crow builds.

[Mordin Ashe]

Streaks only work against poor players. Skilled players are running Centurions and Hunchbacks which can deliver 40+ alpha into one location. Against a skilled team with proper Mechs four Streakcrows would all be dead before they can each dish out 100 damage. Been there too many times to hold streaks in high regard...

Anyway, it is the same as many times before. Pinpoint trumps any scattered damage given equal terms.

[Scout Derek]

@Budda probably, they both relate to the same topic.

[wanderer]

Mechwarrior Buddah, on 22 April 2016 - 07:08 PM, said:

Or the Jester with 3x ams... oh wait that got nerfed

looks kinda like they WANT this to be the run to mech for this lol

>Jester
>in Scouting mode

Erm...

[Pjwned]

Pjwned, on 23 April 2016 - 01:30 PM, said:

The people saying "just bring your mediums and not your lights" are ignoring a large part of the problem.

Sader325, on 22 April 2016 - 08:02 PM, said:

Pjwned, on 22 April 2016 - 11:08 PM, said:

Wow, great example of the enemy marching into your all medium mech lance more or less 1 by 1 and getting focus fired.

Really says a lot about the issue.

Edited by Pjwned, 23 April 2016 - 02:40 PM.

[Moldur]

Trainee, on 22 April 2016 - 08:33 PM, said:

Oh look a brag post from Sader. Like it would have been a different outcome with you 4 in the Steak Boats. Leader of MS, 2 of it's top pilots, and Sader.

100% agree. I, as a regular player, am incapable of focusing legs. I just can't do it. I actually can't hit anything at all. Really, most of MWO for me is complaining on the forums and buying mech packs to fill out my garage..

[Sasuga]

Chuanhao, on 22 April 2016 - 06:54 PM, said:

So must everyones drop deck now consist of either sparkys ot stormcrows ONLY?

That doesn't make for an interesting game.

fortunately trebuchet 7M with 30 Lrms and modules can shell a stormcrow to bits before the latter can close.

So it will be useful if non ecm builds to stormcrow are shared

I run Jenner IICs and the occasional Arctic Cheetah for scouting. I'll admit, I've ran a Streak Crow once or twice as well, but they are way too slow for me in scouting. I like the Cheetah for it's ECM, but then its too slow compared to a Jenner IIC. I wish I could put ECM on a Jenner IIC, but oh well.

[Sasuga]

Sader325, on 22 April 2016 - 08:02 PM, said:

These Innersphere guys should not be aloud to equip weapons that out range Streak SRMs! Its totally unbalanced, I say IS Medium Lasers should have their range nurfed!

[Inappropriate1]

No. Streak Crows should be given a quirk that does 3000% more damage in scouting against people who do not pay PGI $$$$$$$$$$$$

Eliminate Streak Crows from scouting altogether.

Edited by Inappropriate1, 14 September 2016 - 10:30 AM.

[Hal Greaves]

Taking a 5x A-SRM6 splat crow is, however, really hilarious.

I can't count the amount of times people run in thinking its a Skillcrow because they are not paying attention.. Only to get splat with A-SRM6 madness.

Edit: Also -

Edited by Hal Greaves, 14 September 2016 - 10:35 AM.

[Master Pain]

The biggest problem with 4v4 isnt that the streakcrow has no counters, its that the entire game mode now revolves around bringing streakcrows and countering streakcrows. If you bring anything that isnt 50 or 55 tons, you are dead. I think the game mode would be a lot more fun if they had a 45 ton mech limit. It might actually be about scouting then.

[Johnny Z]

Inner Sphere can win scouting easily. Its just being trolled a lot. 90% of scouting matches I had no help getting intel last event.

Edited by Johnny Z, 14 September 2016 - 11:12 AM.

[Myantra]

Master Pain, on 14 September 2016 - 10:54 AM, said:

The biggest problem with 4v4 isnt that the streakcrow has no counters, its that the entire game mode now revolves around bringing streakcrows and countering streakcrows. If you bring anything that isnt 50 or 55 tons, you are dead. I think the game mode would be a lot more fun if they had a 45 ton mech limit. It might actually be about scouting then.

It is no different than any other game mode; everything is Skirmish.

[Besh]

Master Pain, on 14 September 2016 - 10:54 AM, said:

The biggest problem with 4v4 isnt that the streakcrow has no counters, its that the entire game mode now revolves around bringing streakcrows and countering streakcrows. If you bring anything that isnt 50 or 55 tons, you are dead. I think the game mode would be a lot more fun if they had a 45 ton mech limit. It might actually be about scouting then.

Myantra, on 14 September 2016 - 11:24 AM, said:

It is no different than any other game mode; everything is Skirmish.

Nonsense .

Skilled fast IS Runners - ie LCTs, CMDs - can simply avoid StreakCrows . Works really well when gathering . Apart from that, there ARE counters for StreakCrows in Scouting Missions . That you have not figured them out yet means nothing...apart from you being too narrowminded .

Remember, the Game is what YOU make it guys . If you choose to play Scouting like Skrimish/TDM....thats what it is going to be for you . In reality though, MW:O provides several 'Mechs that work, for either Side, depending on whether you gather/defend, and how you want to play it .

Edited by Besh, 14 September 2016 - 12:19 PM.

[LT. HARDCASE]

How about just removing 55 ton mechs from Scouting missions?

[Myantra]

Besh, on 14 September 2016 - 12:13 PM, said:

Nonsense .

Skilled fast IS Runners - ie LCTs, CMDs - can simply avoid StreakCrows . Works really well when gathering . Apart from that, there ARE counters for StreakCrows in Scouting Missions . That you have not figured them out yet means nothing...apart from you being too narrowminded .

Remember, the Game is what YOU make it guys . If you choose to play Scouting like Skrimish/TDM....thats what it is going to be for you . In reality though, MW:O provides several 'Mechs that work, for either Side, depending on whether you gather/defend, and how you want to play it .

Absolutely. My point was more along the lines of too many people choose to play Scouting (and everything else) like Skirmish. The reason they do so is that it is easy, and the scoring system encourages it further. I am of the opinion that if you are gathering intel, you should seek to avoid detection and thus engagement.

[ALEXANDER CARLYLE]

Rhent, on 22 April 2016 - 04:08 PM, said:

Its called running medium mechs with ECM to completely screw the Streakcrows out from being effective and the tryhards will start running other mechs. In the mean time, enjoy the builds listed below and the INSTANT WINS against Streakcrows as long as at least some of your team are running them.

Even if you have guys running Pirates Bane, they can win 50% of all matches by their self because all they have to do on Scout missions is run to the drop ship and as soon as they touch the dropship zone its instant win.

There are 2 IS 55 tonner mediums that runs ECM and boats 4 SRM's that destroys streak crows 1 on 1, and when running flocks, complete shut the streak crow down from being able to fire their streaks.

GRF-2N XL
ECM
4X SRM6
2 ML
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...fd9af6be4e3304c

GRF-2N STD
ECM
2 X ASRM6
2 X ASRM4
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...8e41c0c76489b4a

Honorable mention is a 40 tonner that outruns the Streakcrows by 20 KPH, outranges them with ERLL by a good 300M range and oh also runs ECM. It can come in, mix up denying streakcrows locks, and then run away if taking damage and act as an ERLL sniper and pick the streakcrow to pieces at its leisure.

CDA-3M XL
ECM
2 ERLL
2 ML


http://mwo.smurfy-ne...a5a172193576509

Sasuga, on 08 May 2016 - 02:06 AM, said:

People need to learn how to use mechs that are faster then Stormcrows, have longer range then Stormcrows, and have ECM so Streaks can't lock on. People need to stop crying and learn to adapt.

I was scouting against this same group over and over that had a Griffin and a Raven with ECM and I could never get a lock with my Streaks to deal any damage at all with them. So, I changed my kit and I've got 24 SRMs now (Non-Streaks). I met them in battle and destroyed two them myself (two kills, most damage dealt, one of them a solo kill).

I didn't (actually) cry that ECM is too powerful! Whaaaaaaa! I changed my kit. I adapted. They throw rock, I'll throw power. They throw paper, I'll throw scissors. If you're seeing a lot of Streak Crows, then adapt. Kit Large Lasers and LRMs. In fact, I've already been seeing mechs with Large Lasers and LRMs in scouting.

No one says you have to use all SRMs and Small Lasers in scouting. And besides this event, no one says you have to kill when you're gathering intel.

I change my mech depending on whether I'm gathering or protecting, and what my team mates are showing or saying they're going to take. I see an enemy doing something that's hurting me a lot, I change my complete load out and compinsate. I don't go crying on the forums for them to nurf it. There are already plenty of counters to the Streak Crow. The Streak Crow puts all its eggs in one basket. All you need to do is learn how to knock that basket over and start stomping eggs!

Are you that uninformed? ECM is getting countered and then the OP Streak Crows wipe everyone out. The nerf is coming and there is nothing you can do to stop it. You can't have a game that lets one mech dominate. its idiotic. Go to 45 tons for Clan scouting and 65 for I.S. That is much more balanced. Then you can learn to adapt.

[RestosIII]

ALEXANDER CARLYLE, on 16 September 2016 - 09:27 AM, said:

Are you that uninformed? ECM is getting countered and then the OP Streak Crows wipe everyone out. The nerf is coming and there is nothing you can do to stop it. You can't have a game that lets one mech dominate. its idiotic. Go to 45 tons for Clan scouting and 65 for I.S. That is much more balanced. Then you can learn to adapt.

Yes, the biggest thing the Clan side should be able to bring is Shadow Cats, while the IS gets heavies. Perfect balance. 10/10, no problems here.

[Monkey Lover]

Allow us to bring any mech we want. This will fix the issue. There is zero reasons to make this light medium only. If someone wants to Steiner scout lance so be it. If you want to counter this with 4 locust collecting only points that's great too.