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#1 Richard Hazen

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Posted 24 April 2016 - 10:04 AM

Otherwise it's a complete joke, was just on a river map and we had no idea where the enemies extraction point was. We beat the team but they had one left but in all that terrain and stuff how are you meant to find the enemies extraction point especially when it's at night to.

#2 Monodominant

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Posted 24 April 2016 - 10:24 AM

So you didnt beat the team cause there was one left.

In that case just cap as many nodes as you can to reduce the amount of intel they get.

Also... how would you know where the extraction point is? How does that make any kind of sense?!?!?!

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Posted 24 April 2016 - 10:29 AM

I dont think we shoud both know but i do want them to stop allowing the drop ship to take off when they're enemy in the drop area.

Edited by Monkey Lover, 24 April 2016 - 10:30 AM.


#4 Richard Hazen

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Posted 24 April 2016 - 10:34 AM

View PostMonodominant, on 24 April 2016 - 10:24 AM, said:

So you didnt beat the team cause there was one left.

In that case just cap as many nodes as you can to reduce the amount of intel they get.

Also... how would you know where the extraction point is? How does that make any kind of sense?!?!?!


It was a prolonged battle and it's so easy to hide on River City and the points were split already we both had a fair few.

Why should we know? because we have satellite surveillance as it's our world and also your mech should be able to pick up the drop ships when it comes in.

Edited by Will Hawker, 24 April 2016 - 10:36 AM.


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Posted 24 April 2016 - 12:15 PM

Use your eyes and look in the air.....there's a giant dropship hovering there for 1:15..

#6 Richard Hazen

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Posted 24 April 2016 - 12:30 PM

View PostVxheous Kerensky, on 24 April 2016 - 12:15 PM, said:

Use your eyes and look in the air.....there's a giant dropship hovering there for 1:15..


1. It was night time 2. It was River City and when we did find it you know where it was? right in the top corner behind all the sky scrapers.

#7 Fiona Marshe

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Posted 24 April 2016 - 02:27 PM

The is also a big smoke column for 3 min before the dropship arrives.

When tickets get to 8 or 9, you should be heading for the centre of the map and high ground for the visual.

#8 vandalhooch

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Posted 24 April 2016 - 02:36 PM

View PostWill Hawker, on 24 April 2016 - 10:04 AM, said:

Otherwise it's a complete joke, was just on a river map and we had no idea where the enemies extraction point was. We beat the team


Clearly you didn't "beat the team" or else this thread would not exist.

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but they had one left but in all that terrain and stuff how are you meant to find the enemies extraction point especially when it's at night to.


#9 StUffz

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Posted 24 April 2016 - 03:06 PM

View PostWill Hawker, on 24 April 2016 - 10:34 AM, said:

Why should we know? because we have satellite surveillance as it's our world and also your mech should be able to pick up the drop ships when it comes in.


ECM = Electronic Countermeasure.

That's why military units keep their mission briefing top secret out of public to avoid that their rendez vous points are known to public and therefore known to enemies.

#10 Aresye

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Posted 24 April 2016 - 06:47 PM

How about you can't extract with an enemy mech in the extraction point?

Why would you be able to extract from an area without a clear LZ?

#11 Mystere

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Posted 24 April 2016 - 06:54 PM

View PostWill Hawker, on 24 April 2016 - 10:04 AM, said:

Otherwise it's a complete joke, was just on a river map and we had no idea where the enemies extraction point was. We beat the team but they had one left but in all that terrain and stuff how are you meant to find the enemies extraction point especially when it's at night to.


Beat the team? LOL!

Here's a hint. What was the objective again?

#12 Moldur

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Posted 24 April 2016 - 07:17 PM

Everyone will learn the tricks and nuances as we have this game mode for longer. Eventually experienced players will learn all the possible drop ship locations and such and this won't be much of an issue.

#13 fbj

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Posted 24 April 2016 - 11:10 PM

Teamplay makes it easier to find the dropship.

I find it easy when I play with unit mates

#14 TexAce

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Posted 25 April 2016 - 12:48 AM

LOL River City.

Try Grim Plexus.

#15 fbj

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Posted 25 April 2016 - 01:08 AM

All the maps have 4 set points from what I have observed when the dropship comes in.

If we ever map it out you all will know it.

Till then take the time to memorize them when you see them.

#16 Ibrandul Mike

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Posted 25 April 2016 - 05:09 AM

you don´t need to extract ... you need to be in the extraction zone. You could transfer all the data from there. No need to get the mechs out :P
And then only mechs with active ECM should be able to stop them.

And perhaps should the defenders get the position of the dropship. At about 30 seconds left, not before. So they have a chance, if they don´t already know, where it is. But not so they can run there before them.


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Posted 25 April 2016 - 05:40 AM

View PostAresye, on 24 April 2016 - 06:47 PM, said:

How about you can't extract with an enemy mech in the extraction point?

Why would you be able to extract from an area without a clear LZ?


Yep, extraction should be about holding the Landing Zone until the dropship arrives.

Extraction should not involve a dropship arriving and providing covering fire for 60s until the attackers inch their toe over the line at the last second.

#18 Ibrandul Mike

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Posted 25 April 2016 - 06:14 AM

I can already hear you cry ...
We couldn´t see the extraction zone, so they could cap it and hold it until the dropship was there and they were gone ... buhu

You see that big dropship. You have over 1 minute to get there and do harm.

At least if you really get the extraction zone capping, I hope they make it right. Only the attackers see it. The smoke starts, when they call the dropship. So the defenders don´t get a head start. Oh and for the possible extraction zones ... there should be at least 3 which the attackers could use. With smoke in different colours. At the beginning the attackers are told which colour is the right for the extraction point. So the defenders have to guess, which point is the right one. Because if they see the dropship coming in ... it will be too late to get to a another extraction zone in time ... sounds more like fun :)

#19 Richard Hazen

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Posted 25 April 2016 - 06:17 AM

View PostIbrandul Mike, on 25 April 2016 - 06:14 AM, said:

I can already hear you cry ...
We couldn´t see the extraction zone, so they could cap it and hold it until the dropship was there and they were gone ... buhu

You see that big dropship. You have over 1 minute to get there and do harm.

At least if you really get the extraction zone capping, I hope they make it right. Only the attackers see it. The smoke starts, when they call the dropship. So the defenders don´t get a head start. Oh and for the possible extraction zones ... there should be at least 3 which the attackers could use. With smoke in different colours. At the beginning the attackers are told which colour is the right for the extraction point. So the defenders have to guess, which point is the right one. Because if they see the dropship coming in ... it will be too late to get to a another extraction zone in time ... sounds more like fun Posted Image

You can't get to the drop ship if the terrain and the night sky hide it from you.

#20 Ibrandul Mike

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Posted 25 April 2016 - 06:34 AM

So the dropship doesn´t register on thermal or night vision? I didn´t check that until now, but I will.

And as for the terrain ... isn´t that a problem of positioning? If you stand directly in front of a building or mountain... it really could be a problem to see something on the other side. In daylight we didn´t have any problems to find the dropships. We didn´t see it every time at first, but after a short repositioning, we saw it quite fast.





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