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[Percy Veer]

I know a lot of people shun the Panther.

First Panther bought I sold...

The Mech is no good until you master it...

Not a great video to the casual observer, but to the trained mech pilot...well, the Panther does work and is fine as it is....

[Mcgral18]

I have to say it...please don't use arm lock on this mech.


You would have had a better range of motion, and faster crosshair on target.
Especially noticeable on that Nova...

[Percy Veer]

I have arm lock tagged to my 'Q' button, and I choose to use it in the main, but it can be disabled at will.

Hmm, I really should explain shouldn't I.

I use vertical axis a lot and I lock the arm to create a point of stability. Though I do see your reason.

My reason against is not to overload the brain, sensory saturation has to be avoided, but perhaps you're right. I used to play unlock but I kill more mechs now than then....I shall have a go with unlocked again.

[cazidin]

The Urbanmech is the best mech.

[Alistair Winter]

I don't think it's a good mech. But there are some people who are able to do well with it. If you're a good light mech pilot and you're good with SRMs, it can be a good mech. I've been f*cked up many a time by Panthers with SRMs.

[Percy Veer]

cazidin, on 26 April 2016 - 02:30 PM, said:

The Urbanmech is the best mech.

Great mech if you can remeber your rotational situation to your rear armour, but yeah, I love Urbies...who, in their right mind, doesn't!



Oh, here's another Urbie video...

https://www.youtube....ZBs#t=74.262687

P.S. Still not a Panther.

Edited by Percy Veer, 26 April 2016 - 02:45 PM.

[Narcissistic Martyr]

No... it's an awful mech compared to its competition (Wolfhounds, Jenners, and Firestarters) but in the hands of a decent light pilot you'll still do just fine.

[Percy Veer]

Narcissistic Martyr, on 26 April 2016 - 02:44 PM, said:

No... it's an awful mech compared to its competition (Wolfhounds, Jenners, and Firestarters) but in the hands of a decent light pilot you'll still do just fine.

Sir, mind if I argue your point of view?

The Jenner and Firestarter are naturally constrained into a CQ role.

The Panther kills bigger mechs than itself.

The Panther, unless in the hands of a very skilled pilot, should avoid all light vs light combat.

The primary role of a Panther is to kill assaults, and descent through the tonnage.

EDIT: The Wolfhound is another matter...I love the Wolfhound.

Here, look...

Edited by Percy Veer, 26 April 2016 - 02:53 PM.

[MechWarrior5152251]

The only reason I will buy a Panther is for the nostalgia of MW2 Mercenaries.

[Ultimax]

The Panther is a pretty niche light, but I agree its actually surprisingly effective in that small niche.


That niche just really doesn't lend itself well to typical pug games.

[Percy Veer]

Ultimax, on 26 April 2016 - 03:10 PM, said:

The Panther is a pretty niche light, but I agree its actually surprisingly effective in that small niche.


That niche just really doesn't lend itself well to typical pug games.

I think your first sentence was spot on.

I think your second sentece would be better suited to this....if you don't mind.

The [Panthers] niche just doesn't lend itself well to factional warfare.

Yes, now I've changed your second sentence...I totally agree with you

[TercieI]

Narcissistic Martyr, on 26 April 2016 - 02:44 PM, said:

No... it's an awful mech compared to its competition (Wolfhounds, Jenners, and Firestarters) but in the hands of a decent light pilot you'll still do just fine.

If you think those mechs are its competition, you don't understand what the Panther is.

[Impyrium]

Narcissistic Martyr, on 26 April 2016 - 02:44 PM, said:

No... it's an awful mech compared to its competition (Wolfhounds, Jenners, and Firestarters) but in the hands of a decent light pilot you'll still do just fine.

Only awful if you try and play it like those.

A lot of people say it was terrible in TT as well... I don't agree, but I haven't played as much TT as many people here. That PPC used to be pretty powerful, and on top of that it was mounted on a low-cost unit. Not that unit value has any meaning in MWO since everything is supposed to be 'equal', but still.

I've always thought the way armour values in MWO are doubled has diluted the roles of heavy hitting weapons a lot. Damage scale wise, a PPC in TT was a dangerous as a long range AC20 in MWO (I think?). I wonder what it would be like if MWO didn't have doubled values?

[Jaeger Gonzo]

Panther is great mech, just not noob friendly.
Seams like most folks just can`t think outside the box.

What Panther needs is fixing hes right arm. So the PPCs would be arranged like 10P ballistics.

[Jaeger Gonzo]

Dingo Red, on 26 April 2016 - 05:32 PM, said:

Only awful if you try and play it like those.

A lot of people say it was terrible in TT as well... I don't agree, but I haven't played as much TT as many people here. That PPC used to be pretty powerful, and on top of that it was mounted on a low-cost unit. Not that unit value has any meaning in MWO since everything is supposed to be 'equal', but still.

I've always thought the way armour values in MWO are doubled has diluted the roles of heavy hitting weapons a lot. Damage scale wise, a PPC in TT was a dangerous as a long range AC20 in MWO (I think?). I wonder what it would be like if MWO didn't have doubled values?

In TT Panther is one of my all time favorite.

Everything is doubled in MWO, so your PPC should be doubled as well.

[Impyrium]

Jaeger Gonzo, on 26 April 2016 - 05:51 PM, said:

In TT Panther is one of my all time favorite.

Everything is doubled in MWO, so your PPC should be doubled as well.

Oh, so weapon values were also doubled? Shows how much I remember.

Doesn't that defeat the purpose of doubling armour values...?

[Mcgral18]

Dingo Red, on 26 April 2016 - 05:59 PM, said:

Oh, so weapon values were also doubled? Shows how much I remember.

Doesn't that defeat the purpose of doubling armour values...?

Guns are ~3x RoF, armour is 2x (plus quirks)

What fired once every 10 seconds in TT, plus RNGeesus target, is 0-4-8s (12) in MWO, with targeting

[NephyrisX]

Panther is surprisingly effective in pubs because it's treated as low priority. It isn't as lethal as other DPM machines like the Firestarter and Arctic Cheetah, but Panthers in my experience has this tendency to last to the end of the match relatively healthy and can mop up the stragglers with SRMs and its signature PPCs.

[Percy Veer]

NephyrisX, on 26 April 2016 - 07:12 PM, said:

Panther is surprisingly effective in pubs because it's treated as low priority. It isn't as lethal as other DPM machines like the Firestarter and Arctic Cheetah, but Panthers in my experience has this tendency to last to the end of the match relatively healthy and can mop up the stragglers with SRMs and its signature PPCs.

Indeedy...in my ickle Pan-10 on the River City map I got my highest score ever....1200 damage and 6 kills.

Twas truly a one off never to be repeated!

[Axeface]

The panther is a fun mech, but sorry, it really isnt good in my opinion.