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[Felicitatem Parco]

I have been lambasted for running Meta Builds recently, so can someone please tell me which loadouts I am not supposed to use in order to prevent these accusations?

Or, better, just tell me which of the following loadouts I am not supposed to use:


Dual AC/20 Rifleman
Dual Gauss Hunchback IIC
Quad LBX Mauler
Dual UAC10 Hellbringer
Quad SRM6 Jagermech
Dual PPC Raven 3L

None of the above Mechs have any Lasers. Can I use any of those loadouts, or are they too Crutchy?

[Lord Perversor]

Prosperity Park, on 27 April 2016 - 03:12 PM, said:

I have been lambasted for running Meta Builds recently, so can someone please tell me which loadouts I am not supposed to use in order to prevent these accusations?

Or, better, just tell me which of the following loadouts I am not supposed to use:


Dual AC/20 Rifleman
Dual Gauss Hunchback IIC
Quad LBX Mauler
Dual UAC10 Hellbringer
Quad SRM6 Jagermech
Dual PPC Raven 3L

None of the above Mechs have any Lasers. Can I use any of those loadouts, or are they too Crutchy?

That just alone should you feel bad, so so bad and ashamed of yourself!!!

Bad bad Mr Park enjoying Up Builds for fun!!

[Y E O N N E]

First, laser vomit is not the meta. It's a tool to meet the meta under some conditions, but it's not the ultimate solution to everything.

Second, not a single one of those 'Mechs is built to the meta for those particular chassis, excepting perhaps the HBK-IIC with dual Gauss (though I'll be honest...that's not really a good build. Squishy, slow, slow to fire, requires constant baby-sitting by a friendly Light).

That said, I enjoy my 4xSRM6A Jager immensely.

[FupDup]

The rules you must follow to have an honorable, skill-based build that is balanced and fair:

1. Must use SHS.
2. Cannot use Endo or FF.
3. Must use STD engines.
4. Must be Inner Sphere.
5. Must use a minimum of 4 completely different weapon groups. For example, LRMs and SSRMs are only counted as 1 group, just as all lasers are.
6. Tabletop stock builds preferred.
7. Cannot equip any modules.
8. Generally shouldn't carry maximum armor on any body part except for the head. This means stripping leg armor on lights and torso armor on everything, because that's the Tabletop True Lore way.

Anything that deviates from this list are meta tryhard crutches used by exploitative baddies, clearly.

[Roadkill]

Here,use this.

[Narcissistic Martyr]

HEY! YOU! STOP HAVING FUN!

[Narcissistic Martyr]

FupDup, on 27 April 2016 - 03:18 PM, said:

The rules you must follow to have an honorable, skill-based build that is balanced and fair:

1. Must use SHS.
2. Cannot use Endo or FF.
3. Must use STD engines.
4. Must be Inner Sphere.
5. Must use a minimum of 4 completely different weapon groups. For example, LRMs and SSRMs are only counted as 1 group, just as all lasers are.
6. Tabletop stock builds preferred.
7. Cannot equip any modules.
8. Generally shouldn't carry maximum armor on any body part except for the head. This means stripping leg armor on lights and torso armor on everything, because that's the Tabletop True Lore way.

Anything that deviates from this list are meta tryhard crutches used by exploitative baddies, clearly.

So... a stock Warhammer 6R? Only mech I can think of with 4 completely different types of weaponry (PPC, lasers, machine guns, and SRMs) that has less than max armor everywhere except the head.

[Mister Blastman]

Here's my meta lately...



Oops. Wrong game. I haven't played MWO in weeks.

[Alistair Winter]

None of those are really meta, as far as I can tell. The quad LB10X Mauler is very common though, and it's kind of a low-skill high-entertainment build.

The only build you should be lambasted for is the Dual PPC Raven. That build is just morally reprehensible, borderline ban-worthy.

[Naduk]

Not nearly enough large pulse lasers to be meta

I have not even seen any one drive a ac40 rifleman

I bet that mauler is soooooo fun , blam, blam, blam, blam , blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam

Tell them to shut up PP
EVEN if you do drive some meta or something you make becomes meta it's having fun that matters

[Moldur]

There is a great fail proof way to always keep a high ground over your enemy, even when you lose.

All you have to do is say these two words.

"[whatever the enemy was using] noob"

Observe:

lrm noob

gauss noob

laser noob

ballistic noob

etc.

Fail proof.

Edited by Moldur, 27 April 2016 - 04:16 PM.

[Felicitatem Parco]

Alistair Winter, on 27 April 2016 - 03:35 PM, said:

The only build you should be lambasted for is the Dual PPC Raven. That build is just morally reprehensible, borderline ban-worthy.

Should I drop the XL225 in favor of a standard engine? I know how lagshieldy a 105 KPH light is, and i don't want to be labeled an exploiter.

[Amsro]

If your build kills whiny, supercereal players and they call you meta then it's meta.

Haha, meta is just a state of change, I'm not sure why people use that word for the best builds and I'm even more perplexed at how everytime you kill someone you must be "meta". LOL

[Aresye]

FupDup, on 27 April 2016 - 03:18 PM, said:

The rules you must follow to have an honorable, skill-based build that is balanced and fair:

1. Must use SHS.
2. Cannot use Endo or FF.
3. Must use STD engines.
4. Must be Inner Sphere.
5. Must use a minimum of 4 completely different weapon groups. For example, LRMs and SSRMs are only counted as 1 group, just as all lasers are.
6. Tabletop stock builds preferred.
7. Cannot equip any modules.
8. Generally shouldn't carry maximum armor on any body part except for the head. This means stripping leg armor on lights and torso armor on everything, because that's the Tabletop True Lore way.

Anything that deviates from this list are meta tryhard crutches used by exploitative baddies, clearly.

Don't forget that you must also play on maximum resolution and graphics, regardless of how powerful/weak your computer is. Trying to improve FPS and/or visibility is only what tryhards do.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Prosperity Park, on 27 April 2016 - 03:12 PM, said:

I have been lambasted for running Meta Builds recently, so can someone please tell me which loadouts I am not supposed to use in order to prevent these accusations?

Or, better, just tell me which of the following loadouts I am not supposed to use:


Dual AC/20 Rifleman
Dual Gauss Hunchback IIC
Quad LBX Mauler
Dual UAC10 Hellbringer
Quad SRM6 Jagermech
Dual PPC Raven 3L

None of the above Mechs have any Lasers. Can I use any of those loadouts, or are they too Crutchy?

or do like I do and not give a ****

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Roadkill, on 27 April 2016 - 03:19 PM, said:

Here,use this.

better yet:

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...5f4a69233e3e9bd

but youll overheat



so trigger discipline

[Felicitatem Parco]

Mechwarrior Buddah, on 27 April 2016 - 05:10 PM, said:

or do like I do and not give a ****

But my AC40 Rifleman has made people angry at me and the game... I won't dare echo what i have been called by using that Comp-Tier Skillbot. I don't really want to continue generating ill-will like that.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Prosperity Park, on 27 April 2016 - 05:16 PM, said:

But my AC40 Rifleman has made people angry at me and the game... I won't dare echo what i have been called by using that Comp-Tier Skillbot. I don't really want to continue generating ill-will like that.

man, one of my fave games was when I killed a guy before I even saw him with a dual gauss cat back in CB BECAUSE he screamed aimbot the rest of the match so often he even screwed up his own team trying to coordinate

[General Solo]

Prosperity Park, on 27 April 2016 - 05:16 PM, said:

But my AC40 Rifleman has made people angry at me and the game... I won't dare echo what i have been called by using that Comp-Tier Skillbot. I don't really want to continue generating ill-will like that.

If they get angry your Meta is working
Well Done
Carry on

If such awesomeness is too much
Switch off all chat

and carry on

Edited by OZHomerOZ, 27 April 2016 - 05:26 PM.

[Starbomber109]

"Not supposed to use"...?

I mean, you can build whatever you want, play how you want, don't pay attention to anyone.

The builds that don't make sense coming from tabletop (if you're a LoreWarrior) are:
1. Dual Gauss Jagermech (Too much recoil, would knock the mech over)
2. Dual AC20 Jagermech (same thing)
3. 'Boat' ie only one weapons system (pretty uncommon in terms of tabletop mechs, even though it's one of the more efficient ways to build a mech in this particular game, there's a few exceptions like certain light mechs or fire support mechs, but in general mechs in tabletop had a mix of weapons.)
4. PPC raven is a bad build anyways (OOOOLD build, ER Large works better)
5. Same for LBX mauler, use AC 5 spam instead
6. Amo in the legs (How does it get to the weapons system? Amo in tabletop is usually in a torso with a feed system into the weapon, generally its a bad idea in game because if your torso is crit, the amo has a chance to explode and destroy the component. Then again, in mediums people tend to aim at legs, so if you lose a leg you lose half your amo. YMMV)