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[Valdarion Silarius]

Alright, so before this turns into another "Russ please add the Madcat MK2" thread, let's discuss the possibility for more future IIC mechs to be added in the game.


Yes, I am very (quote on quote) "passionate" about these mechs being added into Mechwarrior Online. Yes, I am well aware that Russ may not (but still a chance thereof) add anymore mech pack sales from the last town hall. And yes, I realize that these mechs that I list here may never be added into the game. I think PGI would be rather foolish to ignore this IIC pack, since this could be a big money maker for them (Russ did state that they made most of their money off of mech packs after all).


So let's begin by discussing the possibility if Russ wanted to add a second liner, wave 2 IIC pack. Copy pasted from another thread:


Locust IIC for the light.


Production year : 2832

With 8x ER Small laser and 1 medium pulse laser for the prime variant, I feel that this mech is going to give the Arctic Cheetah and the Firestarter mechs a run for their money. Great scouting capabilities and a slightly larger profile than it's IS cousin, I can see it filling the role of a firemoth (until we finally get one).


Shadow Hawk IIC for the medium.


Production year : 2831

The prime variant is going to be a great brawler with it's 4x Streak SRM-2's, 2x medium pulse lasers, 1x ER Medium lasers and a 1x ER small laser. The clans are lacking in the medium department (and in the lore in general).


Rifleman IIC for the heavy.


Production year : 2845

Mechwarriors will have to learn how to chain fire the large pulse lasers, and just like MW2 and MW2 GBL, the main weapon mounts on the mech will be arm mounted. So any opponents that would potentially face the Rifleman IIC in the field will have to learn to aim at the arms to put the mech out of battle. Any other weapon mounts would be minor ones in the chest area.

This is a much needed mech for the clans. The IS already has the Jagermech, the blackjack, and now the IS rifleman. The rifleman IIC 1 mounts 4x Large Pulse Lasers, a single ER small laser (a last ditch weapon if the arms get blown off), a BAP, and jump jets. With high weapon mounts, the rifleman iic mainly boasts higher laser/ballistic mounts like it's IS cousin. It's a second liner, aka a better armored support mech that can stand on it's own in battle.


TL:DR If we don't get an IIC mech pack 2, then this is the single IIC battlemech that I want to see for the clans.


Warhammer IIC for the assault.

Production year : 2829

Boasting 1 ton of more armor than the rifleman iic, this mech is an absolute classic that we grew up with in MW2. The prime has a devastating pair of 2x ER PPC's, 5x Medium Pulse Lasers, and a single SRM 6. I love the classic in the center cockpit design for a more tankier look than its IS cousin. An extremely well thought out design, mechwarriors can experiment with various missile builds to laser boats with this chassis. This will be a tough nut to crack in MWO, and a well needed one for the clans.


Still not convinced? If mechwarrior online is going by lore, and following the events from the Battle of Tukayyid, then there are many missing mechs that should be made just for said events. An example are the battlemech IIC's I listed, and the firemoth omni mech for example.


And finally, let's post some awesome artwork of these mechs from the Battle of Tukayyid, and some of my custom work that I did for table top simulator for such said mechs. I'm gonna post images of my custom models here to give PGI some inspiration for their artwork.
























TL:DR

Just add these mechs Russ so I can shut up about them on town hall.

Edited by Arnold The Governator, 28 April 2016 - 07:23 PM.

[Imperius]

Arnold The Governator, on 28 April 2016 - 03:55 PM, said:

Alright, so before this turns into another "Russ please add the Madcat MK2", let's discuss the possibility for more future IIC mechs to be added in the game.

Just add thismech Russ so I can shut up about them on town hall.

You summoned me?

Edited by Imperius, 28 April 2016 - 05:05 PM.

[Metus regem]

You sir, are Awesome. I love that you went with the Warhammer IIC rather than the Marauder IIC.

[LT. HARDCASE]

I need for IIC mechs to justify the obscene amount of cbills I've spent on Clan XLs.

I'd love to get my hands on the Shadowhawk IIC.

Rifleman IIC is garbage though, as its low engine cap would kill it dead.

[CycKath]

Definitely interested in buying these ones for C-Bills, they (the TRO:3055 IICs) appeared on the Clan RATs from the original Tukayyid scenario pack (from which some of those images above came from) so would make clear choices for the Com Guard to salvage.

[Ghogiel]

Someone tell him they aren't doing big packs anymore and it's just single mech release from now on.

[Valdarion Silarius]

Imperius, on 28 April 2016 - 05:04 PM, said:

You summoned me?

Oh god NO. I might add a mad cat mk2 in table top sim if you are interested. I was going to work on the firemoth first, but was planning on making a separate omni mech pack.

LT. HARDCASE, on 28 April 2016 - 05:12 PM, said:

I need for IIC mechs to justify the obscene amount of cbills I've spent on Clan XLs.

I'd love to get my hands on the Shadowhawk IIC.

Rifleman IIC is garbage though, as its low engine cap would kill it dead.

The Rifleman IIC in it's standard configuration isn't bad at all. At 54 kmph, yes it is as slow as an atlas. With an XL upgrade it gets bumped into 64.8 kmph and handles the 4x large pulse lasers effectively. It handles the heat extremely well (which can stack with more double heatsinks with the XL engine installed). And the jump jets help it with it's slow stock speed.

Edited by Arnold The Governator, 28 April 2016 - 08:45 PM.

[Scout Derek]

Ghogiel, on 28 April 2016 - 05:38 PM, said:

Someone tell him they aren't doing big packs anymore and it's just single mech release from now on.

Someone tell him ^^ that you have absolutely no proof of such.

[Valdarion Silarius]

Ghogiel, on 28 April 2016 - 05:38 PM, said:

Someone tell him they aren't doing big packs anymore and it's just single mech release from now on.

Did you even bother reading the thread at all?

[TheArisen]

What about epic non-IIC clan battlemechs like the Bane/Kraken & Black Python?

[Scout Derek]

TheArisen, on 28 April 2016 - 05:45 PM, said:

What about epic non-IIC clan battlemechs like the Bane/Kraken & Black Python?

Soon^TM.

Just kidding, but they are coming, probably this year

[Ghogiel]

Arnold The Governator, on 28 April 2016 - 05:41 PM, said:

Did you even bother reading the thread at all?

I turned off after you mentioned about them not doing mech packs then wanting discussing them doing mech packs. did I miss anything not idiotic?

[xXBagheeraXx]

After my incredible disappointment in the Orion/Highlander IIC I'm laying off any IIC packages from now on.

Just gonna sit here and wait on my Supernova/MadcatMkII

[BD RAIDR]

I want the OPs mech pack (Origins 2), followed by Origins 3, featuring: Urbanmech IIC, Griffin IIC, Marauder IIC, and one other IIC, any (e.g. Phoenix Hawk, Wolverine...).

Am willing to go all out with mah credit card on both packs.

Edited by BD RAIDR, 28 April 2016 - 08:36 PM.

[Y E O N N E]

WTB:

LCT-IIC and RFL-IIC.

[Valdarion Silarius]

Ghogiel, on 28 April 2016 - 06:23 PM, said:

I turned off after you mentioned about them not doing mech packs then wanting discussing them doing mech packs. did I miss anything not idiotic?

Here, I'll rephrase my paragraphs so that this thread doesn't sound contradictory to my prior statements. Just for you.

Edited by Arnold The Governator, 28 April 2016 - 07:20 PM.

[GreyNovember]

The Locust sounds like power creep to the extreme. Myst lynx can go suck it, and commandos can rot in a corner.

Or I've forgotten exactly how fragile 25 tonners are that aren't humanoid.

[LT. HARDCASE]

Arnold The Governator, on 28 April 2016 - 05:41 PM, said:

The Rifleman IIC in it's standard configuration isn't bad at all. At 54 kmph, yes it is as slow as an atlas. With an XL upgrade it gets bumped into 64.8 kmph and handles the 4x large pulse lasers effectively. It handles the heat extremely well (which can stack with more double heatsinks with the XL engine installed). And the jump jets help it with it's slow stock speed after all.

Four Clan LPL need 20+ heatsinks to be used effectively. Can the RFL-IIC pack that many?

[Valdarion Silarius]

LT. HARDCASE, on 28 April 2016 - 08:14 PM, said:

Four Clan LPL need 20+ heatsinks to be used effectively. Can the RFL-IIC pack that many?

A standard Rifleman IIC Prime uses 19 double heat sinks with it's standard 195 engine. However, when upgrade to it's 195XL engine, that frees up 4.75 tonnage space from the standard engine for an additional 5 double heat sinks. So now you have 24 double heat sinks for a mech that still goes 54 kmph.

If you upgrade it to a 260XL engine, It can be upgraded to 21 double heat sinks and now has a top speed of 75.6 kmph.

So to answer your question, yes. It can run it's 4x large pulse lasers efficiently with engine upgrades. It's standard configuration with the standard engine can still handle the large pulse lasers if chain fired properly.

Edited by Arnold The Governator, 28 April 2016 - 08:41 PM.

[SkyHammyr]

I'd be down with the RFL-IIC if it didn't have that asinine fisbee on top of it.
I would also like to see the MAD-IIC offered as a bonus chasis for going full tilt on the mech pack (like the Vulture).

Thing is, as others have said, we ain't doin mech packs anymore. Which, I feel this is both a good and bad decision.

Edited by SkyHammyr, 28 April 2016 - 08:56 PM.