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[MechWarrior319348]

I Think it would be fun if we could shoot some ideas back and fourth directed at tactics.



First off, what I see quite often is that a team doesn't realize that it should be as one. That each mech is a component of a whole chess piece. Therefore your efforts are focused between one another, allowing you more power to achieve your goal.

Your assaults are the head of the team. You should always have your formation directed around the assaults. Every time an order is given, It is mainly directed at the assault lance. If the assault lance is correctly directed, and has the support of the team, then you will achieve a fighting unit that can move from point A to point B in a perfect manner.

You need to analyze the situation repeatedly throughout the match. Think about where your team is; and think about what your tactical options are. You may find yourself in a good defensive position on the map, therefore you would fortify it and wait for the enemy to come crashing into your firing line. Or you find that you are approaching an enemy firing line and realize that going straight in may not be the best option. Perhaps you should evaluate the right and left of the enemy's flank. If you can find an opening, that is where you should funnel your troops.

This is a war room type of thread, not a place for you to complain about the game. Throw out some useful info that can be used to evolve Mechwarrior tactics.

Edited by Delta 62, 15 May 2016 - 06:12 PM.

[El Bandito]

If everyone in my pug team could just shoot at the legs of the enemy mechs, then that would be great. As is, I cannot trust them to do so, which why I am forced to shoot at the enemies' torsi.

[MechWarrior319348]

El Bandito, on 15 May 2016 - 06:12 PM, said:

If everyone in my pug team could just shoot at the legs of the enemy mechs, then that would be great. As is, I cannot trust them to do so, which why I am forced to shoot at the enemies' torsi.

What happens if the entire team agrees to shoot nothing but legs? is it awesome?

[adamts01]

You can't fix tactics without fixing pugs. Since you can't fix stupid, there's really no moving forward at this point.

[MechWarrior319348]

adamts01, on 15 May 2016 - 06:15 PM, said:

You can't fix tactics without fixing pugs. Since you can't fix stupid, there's really no moving forward at this point.

bah, Im looking for tactics goodies, not complaints. What strategy do you use in the game?

[El Bandito]

Delta 62, on 15 May 2016 - 06:13 PM, said:

What happens if the entire team agrees to shoot nothing but legs? is it awesome?

The enemy team will not stand a chance. Legging straight up negates any torso twisting skill they have. Not to mention most puggers have less than full armor on them legs.

Edited by El Bandito, 15 May 2016 - 06:17 PM.

[MechWarrior319348]

El Bandito, on 15 May 2016 - 06:16 PM, said:

The enemy team will not stand a chance. Legging straight up negates any torso twisting skill they have.

I would love to see a video of something like that happening. That would be awesome.... does such a video already exist?

I wonder if the same tactic could work for head shots..... ?

Edited by Delta 62, 15 May 2016 - 06:19 PM.

[adamts01]

Delta 62, on 15 May 2016 - 06:16 PM, said:

bah, Im looking for tactics goodies, not complaints. What strategy do you use in the game?

I typically just complain a lot in game also. Get the enemy flustered in a typing frenzy while I Jenner them in the back.

[MechWarrior319348]

One important scenario I see a lot is this:

2 friendlies remaining, 1 bad guy remaining.

One of the friendlies has no weapons, the other has lots.

Therefore the one without weapons should be a shield for the guy with weapons.

[El Bandito]

Delta 62, on 15 May 2016 - 06:17 PM, said:

I would love to see a video of something like that happening. That would be awesome.... does such a video already exist?

I wonder if the same tactic could work for head shots..... ?

Go search YouTube for it--usually it requires 12 man team to pull off. In Faction Play sometimes our team use legging tactics as a part of a 12 Light mech rush in Counter-Attack mode, and it is very effective. As for head-shots, Flamer is useful for that. Just overheat your enemy and then while he is standing still, do a point blank head-shot.

[MechWarrior319348]

adamts01, on 15 May 2016 - 06:22 PM, said:

I typically just complain a lot in game also. Get the enemy flustered in a typing frenzy while I Jenner them in the back.

hah, you mean you goat them into typing, then you kill em while they are busy chatting?

[Malachy Karrde]

El Bandito, on 15 May 2016 - 06:16 PM, said:

The enemy team will not stand a chance. Legging straight up negates any torso twisting skill they have. Not to mention most puggers have less than full armor on them legs.

And this is why a Dire wolf can out tank an atlas. Takes him much longer to strip my torso than for me to rip off his legs.

[MechWarrior319348]

El Bandito, on 15 May 2016 - 06:25 PM, said:

Go search YouTube for it--usually it requires 12 man team to pull off. In Faction Play sometimes our team use legging tactics as a part of a 12 Light mech rush in Counter-Attack mode, and it is very effective. As for head-shots, Flamer is useful for that. Just overheat your enemy and then while he is standing still, do a point blank head-shot.

Very interesting.... get your opponent to overheat with flamers, then guass him in the face.

[Escef]

Delta 62, on 15 May 2016 - 06:17 PM, said:

I would love to see a video of something like that happening. That would be awesome.... does such a video already exist?

Last match of my Friday stream I took a 4xERML, 1xUAC20 Hunchback IIC and double-legged a pair of Hellbringers. Most players under-armor the legs a little, and some folks strip leg armor dangerously low for one more heat sink or ton of ammo.

[MechWarrior319348]

Malachy Karrde, on 15 May 2016 - 06:25 PM, said:

And this is why a Dire wolf can out tank an atlas. Takes him much longer to strip my torso than for me to rip off his legs.

naaaahhhhhh I think an atlas can out tank a dire any day of the week, the dire wolf has to keep it's weapons focused over a long period of time. the Atlas has instant alphas, that way it can: alpha, twist, alpha, twist, and so on.

Just imagine if we had flashbangs and tripmines

[Malachy Karrde]

Delta 62, on 15 May 2016 - 06:29 PM, said:

naaaahhhhhh I think an atlas can out tank a dire any day of the week, the dire wolf has to keep it's weapons focused over a long period of time. the Atlas has instant alphas, that way it can: alpha, twist, alpha, twist, and so on.

I've got a 110 point double tap alpha. Atlas legs can't twist out of my line of fire. Usually only get hit once, at best before the tall fat boys go down.

Another thing you can do to pull an atlas teeth is to focus on his right torso. The ac gets knocked out really quick, sometimes without even destroying the torso. Once that ac 20 is gone, srms aren't nearly as effective weapons.

Edited by Malachy Karrde, 15 May 2016 - 06:36 PM.

[adamts01]

Delta 62, on 15 May 2016 - 06:25 PM, said:

hah, you mean you goat them into typing, then you kill em while they are busy chatting?

Gotta make up for a lack of skill somehow.

I typically play something fast I can strike from the flanks with. Most pug matches are one ball fighting another ball so I take advantage of that and get an angle. A big, lame alpha boat is best, but that's so boring and stupid. Raven 2x is my favorite, it's fast, cool with good range. Very versatile.

[MechWarrior319348]

Light lance tactics:

You only have two lights left alive in the lance, and you come across a direwolf.

One light will get it's attention while the other shoots it in the back.

Pretty basic but i see alot of missed opportunities.

Edited by Delta 62, 15 May 2016 - 06:49 PM.

[Davegt27]

I had high hopes for tactics when CW first started

Then another hope for tactics when 4V4 was about to start

But I received no joy
Even watching comp play I see little tactics

[Pocket_Aces]

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[color=#959595]Your assaults are the head of the team. You should always have your formation directed around the assaults. Every time an order is given, It is mainly directed at the assault lance. If the assault lance is correctly directed, and has the support of the team, then you will achieve a fighting unit that can move from point A to point B in a perfect manner.[/color]

Have to disagree here for clan mechs, clan assault mechs are terrible at being the tip of the spear, they are really support mechs, slow torso twist, long time on target, and no arm actuators contribute to this problem. Clan heavys and mediums are the tip of the spear and they should lead, becoming the primary target of the enemy so the clan assaults can keep their weapons on target.

In summary:
(Clans)
Heavies & mediums lead
Assaults & lights as support (exception - Arctic Cheeter)

(IS)
Assaults & lights lead.
Heavies & mediums support.

Edited by MatesRates, 15 May 2016 - 08:59 PM.