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[Felio]

Just ask support@mwomercs.com for a refund. They'll probably give it to you.

And come on, people. This isn't as hard a mistake to make as you all are making it sound. All the information should be very clear on the sales page. The onus is not on us to research sarna.

The page does not say battlemech. It does not say omnimech. It simply says 'mech. The only thing he was supposed to notice was that the hardpoints are called "hardpoints," not "omnipod hardpoints."

[Roadkill]

ToMang07, on 17 May 2016 - 12:40 PM, said:

The lore is dumb, and they listed it as a clan mech. So I guess it should have been made a lot more clear. It's a huge waste of money, regardless.

It is a Clan Mech. You are confused about the terminology.

There are two sides in the war - Clan and Inner Sphere.

There are many types of technology used in the war. In this case, the two types in question are called BattleMechs and OmniMechs. The Clan side uses both types of technology. The Inner Sphere side currently only uses one - BattleMechs - but will introduce their own OmniMechs later in the war.

The Kodiak is a BattleMech on the Clan side of the war.

[Wintersdark]

WVAnonymous, on 17 May 2016 - 01:04 PM, said:

Didn't know if they were omnimechs or not, and I had actually skimmed the webpage. I don't think that makes me dumb.

I didn't buy them regardless, I have refused to buy clan mechs with real money since I bought the Gargoyle. The Gargoyle still makes me sad.

Not dumb, but if you buy something, the onus is on you to learn what you're buying. It was clearly stated on the order page.


Also: poor Mr. Gargles.

[Robot Kenshiro]

lolz....and....more lolz.....and.........etc etc

[Hal Greaves]

Donald Trump Kerensky, on 17 May 2016 - 01:06 PM, said:

Donald Trump Kerensky

lmao that name

kin3tix what are you doing

Edited by Hal Greaves, 17 May 2016 - 01:12 PM.

[Acehilator]

ToMang07, on 17 May 2016 - 12:40 PM, said:

The lore is dumb, and they listed it as a clan mech. So I guess it should have been made a lot more clear. It's a huge waste of money, regardless.

Bad troll is bad.

0/10, wouldnt read again.

[Bishop Steiner]

WVAnonymous, on 17 May 2016 - 01:04 PM, said:

Didn't know if they were omnimechs or not, and I had actually skimmed the webpage. I don't think that makes me dumb.

I didn't buy them regardless, I have refused to buy clan mechs with real money since I bought the Gargoyle. The Gargoyle still makes me sad.

If you weren't planning to buy one, no one would expect you to actually do a little research though, either, though. But I mean...3-4 month waiting period from announcement, countless threads, tweets, etc? C'mon!

Felio, on 17 May 2016 - 01:08 PM, said:

Just ask support@mwomercs.com for a refund. They'll probably give it to you.

And come on, people. This isn't as hard a mistake to make as you all are making it sound. All the information should be very clear on the sales page. The onus is not on us to research sarna.

The page does not say battlemech. It does not say omnimech. It simply says 'mech. The only thing he was supposed to notice was that the hardpoints are called "hardpoints," not "omnipod hardpoints."

even if the initial mistake is "forgivable", which it is, most of the heat is more directed toward his continued attitude than his actual "blunder".

[Vox Scorpus]

Even if you don't like the lore, read the lore, or played TT, the information about the Kodiak clearly stated that it is a Clan IIC. And if you've read into the game at all (be it online or whatever), you should know what that means. It's troubling isn't it that someone will not do any research at all before putting real money down on something (this could apply to anything). It's called shiny new syndrome (or it should be). Look it's shiny, and it's new so it must be great - lets buy it! Personally I've run the 3 variants I have (changed a few things of course) and I think they're great!

[zolop]

Felio, on 17 May 2016 - 01:08 PM, said:

The page does not say battlemech. It does not say omnimech. It simply says 'mech. The only thing he was supposed to notice was that the hardpoints are called "hardpoints," not "omnipod hardpoints."

Edited out, unnecessary.

Thank you Felio

I see what you mean Felio...
(below)
https://mwomercs.com/wavethree

and more recently
https://mwomercs.com/night-gyr

Edited by zolop, 17 May 2016 - 01:31 PM.

[Lorian Sunrider]

Felio, on 17 May 2016 - 01:08 PM, said:

Just ask support@mwomercs.com for a refund. They'll probably give it to you.

And come on, people. This isn't as hard a mistake to make as you all are making it sound. All the information should be very clear on the sales page. The onus is not on us to research sarna.

The page does not say battlemech. It does not say omnimech. It simply says 'mech. The only thing he was supposed to notice was that the hardpoints are called "hardpoints," not "omnipod hardpoints."

If he didn't act like an *** so much in this thread we likely wouldn't be giving him as hard a time.

How we react to him is much in line with how he decided to play his cards.

[Critical Rocket]

It's situations like this that maybe PGI should have the web team post some background information on the tech, universe, basic history of the universe and battlemech info for the existing and upcoming units. I know for many here it's a simple case of checking sarna or flipping through a TRO but others who don't care about the Battletech setting and only want 'mechs need a better reference point here on the site. I'm not suggesting new art or special graphics, just an information page for newer players or exisitng players who don't know the universe all that well to quickly be able to see at a glance.

[Wintersdark]

Bishop Steiner, on 17 May 2016 - 01:18 PM, said:

even if the initial mistake is "forgivable", which it is, most of the heat is more directed toward his continued attitude than his actual "blunder".

This.

[Bishop Steiner]

Critical Rocket, on 17 May 2016 - 02:00 PM, said:

It's situations like this that maybe PGI should have the web team post some background information on the tech, universe, basic history of the universe and battlemech info for the existing and upcoming units. I know for many here it's a simple case of checking sarna or flipping through a TRO but others who don't care about the Battletech setting and only want 'mechs need a better reference point here on the site. I'm not suggesting new art or special graphics, just an information page for newer players or exisitng players who don't know the universe all that well to quickly be able to see at a glance.

this is true, it would be good. I guess I find it easy enough to google "kodiak mech" and get that info. But liability/customer service wise, the more simple the info is to find, the better.

The problem is even then, we still see plenty of people make claims likethe OP (worked in retail sales for a good chunk of 20 yrs... even when you hold hands, 90% of people still don't do more than the most superficial examinations, then want to hold you responsible for their laziness).

*shrugs*

[Kangarad]

VanguardMk1, on 17 May 2016 - 12:45 PM, said:

If you think the Kodiak is a bad mech just because you can't swap omnipods (because it's a battlemech, not an omnimech) then you need to reconsider what makes a mech "bad". If built right, this thing outclasses the Direwolf, Atlas and King Crab because of the battlemech customisability and the varied hardpoints.

Outclassing the Kingcrab ?


The Kingcrab outbrawls the Atlas with ease.
It can also Oneshot whatever the hell it wants without crippling itself like the direstar.
The laser and missile hardpoints are extremely good for hill poking and the width with the ballistics allows side poking.

I could understand if the kodiaks was somewhat good. but it just is Mediocre. big hitboxes , check, Hardpoint mounts are also more medium, hardpoint ammount? Depends on the chassi but it aint that great since most is just lasers, so no sniping for you unless you want to deal with ghostheat/laser duration
heck I am not sure you can even outbrawl an atlas or a Dakkawolf so you aint going to best a Kingcrab.

[Bishop Steiner]

Kangarad, on 17 May 2016 - 02:08 PM, said:

Outclassing the Kingcrab ?


The Kingcrab outbrawls the Atlas with ease.
It can also Oneshot whatever the hell it wants without crippling itself like the direstar.
The laser and missile hardpoints are extremely good for hill poking and the width with the ballistics allows side poking.

I could understand if the kodiaks was somewhat good. but it just is Mediocre. big hitboxes , check, Hardpoint mounts are also more medium, hardpoint ammount? Depends on the chassi but it aint that great since most is just lasers, so no sniping for you unless you want to deal with ghostheat/laser duration
heck I am not sure you can even outbrawl an atlas or a Dakkawolf so you aint going to best a Kingcrab.

I guess the 3 KGCs I've dipped in butter so far didn't get your memo.....

[ScarecrowES]

zolop, on 17 May 2016 - 01:24 PM, said:

Edited out, unnecessary.

Thank you Felio

I see what you mean Felio...
(below)
https://mwomercs.com/wavethree

and more recently
https://mwomercs.com/night-gyr

Other than the pages not in if a mech has hardpoints or omni hardpoints, you can tell if a Clan mech is an omni based on it's variant naming scheme.

The base model omnimech will always be listed as a Prime. And the other variants will be listed by single letters.... A, B, C, etc.

Battlemechs will not have a prime, and will usually have variants listed by a single number, with the base unit being a 1 or equivalent.

[Gas Guzzler]

Kangarad, on 17 May 2016 - 02:08 PM, said:

Outclassing the Kingcrab ?


The Kingcrab outbrawls the Atlas with ease.
It can also Oneshot whatever the hell it wants without crippling itself like the direstar.
The laser and missile hardpoints are extremely good for hill poking and the width with the ballistics allows side poking.

I could understand if the kodiaks was somewhat good. but it just is Mediocre. big hitboxes , check, Hardpoint mounts are also more medium, hardpoint ammount? Depends on the chassi but it aint that great since most is just lasers, so no sniping for you unless you want to deal with ghostheat/laser duration
heck I am not sure you can even outbrawl an atlas or a Dakkawolf so you aint going to best a Kingcrab.

The King Crab is definitely the worst 100-ton assault mech. Just FYI.

[Kangarad]

Bishop Steiner, on 17 May 2016 - 02:11 PM, said:

I guess the 3 KGCs I've dipped in butter so far didn't get your memo.....

wut?

Gas Guzzler, on 17 May 2016 - 02:14 PM, said:

The King Crab is definitely the worst 100-ton assault mech. Just FYI.

But my 111,3 dmg alpha strikes. nuuh.

[nehebkau]

ToMang07, on 17 May 2016 - 12:40 PM, said:

The lore is dumb, and they listed it as a clan mech. So I guess it should have been made a lot more clear. It's a huge waste of money, regardless.

I love the taste of your salty tears clanner.

[Bishop Steiner]

Kangarad, on 17 May 2016 - 02:16 PM, said:

wut?


But my 111,3 dmg alpha strikes. nuuh.

but your massive eat it all in one spot CT. Oh and my 133 pt alpha laughs.