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[Dee Eight]

Felio, on 17 May 2016 - 01:08 PM, said:

Just ask support@mwomercs.com for a refund. They'll probably give it to you.

And come on, people. This isn't as hard a mistake to make as you all are making it sound. All the information should be very clear on the sales page. The onus is not on us to research sarna.

The page does not say battlemech. It does not say omnimech. It simply says 'mech. The only thing he was supposed to notice was that the hardpoints are called "hardpoints," not "omnipod hardpoints."

Assuming he hasn't spent the 6.5 million cbills yet... they're gonna take all that stuff away with a refund.

[L3mming2]

i did that before buying it but i only new it was a batle mech and not a omny because i looked it up on sarna...
(i tend to make a few theory craft builds before i diside if i want a mech)

in the future it should not be a bad idea for pgi to give all the "known" info on the mech for sale on the page where it is soled..

by that i mean if its a battle ore omni, and a smurfy style lay out of eatch variant. those things might be easy to figure out if u are a lore buff but not so if u dont know a thing about battle tech..

[Dee Eight]

Kodiaks are good at cracking open crabs.

[FupDup]

ToMang07, on 17 May 2016 - 12:40 PM, said:

The lore is dumb, and they listed it as a clan mech. So I guess it should have been made a lot more clear. It's a huge waste of money, regardless.

You don't seem to be educated about how this game or BT work.

There are two factions: IS and Clans.

There are two mech construction types: Battlemechs and Omnimechs.

The Kodiak is both Clan and a Battlemech. Something like the Summoner is a Clan Omnimech. The Atlas is an IS Battlemech. Etc. Being from one faction has no bearing on whether a unit is a Battlemech or Omnimech.

[Tarogato]

Kangarad, on 17 May 2016 - 02:08 PM, said:

Outclassing the Kingcrab ?


The Kingcrab outbrawls the Atlas with ease.

Clearly you haven't been paying attention to top level play, where pretty much nobody brings King Crabs and everybody brings Atlases and Maulers. Go watch some MRBC, educate yourself, there's a reason some mechs are preferred over others, and KGC isn't one of them.

[DaemonWulfe]

So much LOL here I can barely contain myself!

[xXBagheeraXx]

ToMang07, on 17 May 2016 - 12:40 PM, said:

The lore is dumb, and they listed it as a clan mech. So I guess it should have been made a lot more clear. It's a huge waste of money, regardless.

Not all clan mechs are omnimechs...some of them are battlemechs just like IS ones with fixed hardpoints....just with full customization, thats what makes clan battlemechs for the most part > Omnimechs. All the sexiness of clan weapons with full customization...unless you're an orion IIC or Highlander IIC, then you are just a hanger queen.

Tarogato, on 17 May 2016 - 03:33 PM, said:

Clearly you haven't been paying attention to top level play, where pretty much nobody brings King Crabs and everybody brings Atlases and Maulers. Go watch some MRBC, educate yourself, there's a reason some mechs are preferred over others, and KGC isn't one of them.

Its huge, and none of them bring the level of dakka as the mauler since it doesnt have ballistic CD quirks. GUn locaions suck too. and then theres the convergence issues.

Dee Eight, on 17 May 2016 - 02:29 PM, said:

Assuming he hasn't spent the 6.5 million cbills yet... they're gonna take all that stuff away with a refund.

No refunds once it shipped. ONly before they drop.

[Narcissistic Martyr]

WVAnonymous, on 17 May 2016 - 01:04 PM, said:

Didn't know if they were omnimechs or not, and I had actually skimmed the webpage. I don't think that makes me dumb.

I didn't buy them regardless, I have refused to buy clan mechs with real money since I bought the Gargoyle. The Gargoyle still makes me sad.

To be fair Mr. Gargles is lore appropriately awful

[Mavairo]

Holy **** 56% of the que is Assault mechs right now... I guess I get a full range to test my IS assaults out on.. Someone get me my Bear Rifle.

What about the OP? Who cares. Should have done some even cursory research and glancing at the website to figure out the Kodiak is a Battlemech and not an Omnimech.

Edited by Mavairo, 17 May 2016 - 06:08 PM.

[TheArisen]

Any newbies seeking answers.
http://mwomercs.com/...-are-omnimechs/

[xXBagheeraXx]

Narcissistic Martyr, on 17 May 2016 - 05:55 PM, said:

To be fair Mr. Gargles is lore appropriately awful

Thats why you got immediatly to Sarna when they announce new mechs...but TBH the Gargoyle isnt BAD, but its not an assault mech.

Its a carrion feeder. you speed in and use the million small pulse lasers or ER smalls you can carry and finish up heavily damaged mechs...they cant run away from you and your damage/DPS is really high at short range. I honestly hate seeing these coming unless I'm fresh because if I'm not, I'm going to die and there isnt crap I can do about it.

[SeaLabCaptn]

So many unnecessary elitist posts, just answer the question and refrain from passing judgement. I agree OP should have investigated further before purchase, but humans can make mistakes. I didn't know KDK wasn't omnipod either, probably because I don't care about lore/play clan mechs.

Kudos to those who answered respectfully. Thanks for asking the question OP, and for the education I received.on KDK (that I wouldn't have sought out myself).

[Navid A1]

ToMang07, on 17 May 2016 - 12:32 PM, said:

As long as we waited, and as much as we paid, this is BS. I mean come on, seriously?

ToMang07, on 17 May 2016 - 12:38 PM, said:

After seeing the OP and the picture of his build...

All i cant think of is this:

[Damocles]

SeaLabCaptn, on 17 May 2016 - 06:41 PM, said:

So many unnecessary elitist posts

Didn't realize it's elite to check out the stravaging ()wiki that gets posted in every other mech thread
so you know the basics about the next new hotness that you're going to dump your big $$$ on.

[MoonUnitBeta]

This is still over my head... lol but ok. No idea what's going on. Something about not being able to swap arms and legs and torso's with a Clan mech I assume?

Neat.

[Doctor Dinosaur]

Out of curiosity: Beside the armor distribution, what's so wrong about that build? (Sure, I would try to use pulse lasers, but it's not SO bad, is it?)

[Widowmaker1981]

ToMang07, on 17 May 2016 - 12:40 PM, said:

The lore is dumb, and they listed it as a clan mech. So I guess it should have been made a lot more clear. It's a huge waste of money, regardless.

You are very silly, if you think Omnimech hardpoint swapping is better than fine battlemech customisation.

Hint: You can change the engine. 400XL is very inefficient, you can use a 375 which is SEVEN TONS lighter, for only 4kph loss.

[LawlFakers]

ToMang07, on 17 May 2016 - 12:40 PM, said:

The lore is dumb, and they listed it as a clan mech. So I guess it should have been made a lot more clear. It's a huge waste of money, regardless.

Because it is a Clan mech. The Omnipods don't define what is or what isn't a clan mech.
Look at the equipment, does it have the larger IS heatsinks? Does the engine explode when you lose a side-torso, is it as fast or slower than other IS mechs of the same weight class? If the answer is no to all of these questions, congratulations, you're the proud owner of a Clan Battlemech.

As for the lore, I've a Loremaster in my clan unit who'll vehemently disagree with your claim that te lore is dumb, as will I bytheway.

[Kangarad]

Bishop Steiner, on 17 May 2016 - 02:26 PM, said:

but your massive eat it all in one spot CT. Oh and my 133 pt alpha laughs.

but can you fire your alpha twice in 3,5 seconds?

Tarogato, on 17 May 2016 - 03:33 PM, said:

Clearly you haven't been paying attention to top level play, where pretty much nobody brings King Crabs and everybody brings Atlases and Maulers. Go watch some MRBC, educate yourself, there's a reason some mechs are preferred over others, and KGC isn't one of them.

Well I am only In tier 3 at , due to my older games I am only moving up slowly
havent had any problems killing the Carebears tho.

and while yes the maulers are way stronger for pure dakka, tell me, who would bring just 1 weapontype in a kingcrab?
sure 4x uac5 + 4mpl(or 3Lpl's) may not be asmuch screenshake as 4x LBX10 but atleast the weapon conversion is good.
If your playing kingcrab your going to use weapons that work greater together. like gauss and ppc's. hit em in the head with the 2xgauss and if the crit or armour tanking isn't their fall the 3xppc splash damage will finish em off.
Or 4x15xlrm + whatever weapon you want , lrms galore and still enought space for a second weapon combo. and those lrms are way less likely to hit any wall infront of you since their so high mounted and the direction they fire in is also great.
your 2LLas+ac20+3x6 srm atlas? why not 2ac20+4xmpl(or 3xLpL/LL) + 4x6srm Kingcrab? (tho weapon conversion on the srms is slightly higher on the left side you can easily pick out components (esp. with 4x4 Artemis srms).


I just can't seem to find the prue advantage besides ecm on the d-dc which makes this atlas so great. and that is only good against enemy Lrms and Ssrms.

The only detrimental thing to the kingcrab is its increased width and the space between the ballistics points in the arms (which is totally negated by the conversion at ranges which are not facerubbing the enemy. sure it will have a harder time to twist damage away but the ttk is so low atm that it won't matter much.

[Narcissistic Martyr]

xXBagheeraXx, on 17 May 2016 - 06:17 PM, said:

Thats why you got immediatly to Sarna when they announce new mechs...but TBH the Gargoyle isnt BAD, but its not an assault mech.

Its a carrion feeder. you speed in and use the million small pulse lasers or ER smalls you can carry and finish up heavily damaged mechs...they cant run away from you and your damage/DPS is really high at short range. I honestly hate seeing these coming unless I'm fresh because if I'm not, I'm going to die and there isnt crap I can do about it.

No... it's a bad mech in TT.

Weighs more than a timbie, has less armor than a timbie, has less pod space than a timbie, and is the same speed as a timbie.