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[Mangeras]

WTF? Can I haz one of deeze? Man, awesome work

[Mighty Spike]

I would kill for a giant K2 and paint it with phranken Camo. outstanding work. woooow

[Cy Mitchell]

Amazing work!

[Solid Alexei]

First post updated with final photos!

[Tesunie]

Solid Alexei, on 10 June 2016 - 08:27 AM, said:

First post updated with final photos!

Came out looking great.

So, when does it arrive at my house?

[capt hungry]

Wow! So much jealousy, but so cool. Beautiful work!

[Hitman85]

Really great job on this paint job man!

[p4r4g0n]

ChapeL, on 19 May 2016 - 02:44 PM, said:

I do wonder how those doing the selling actually can. Was the model modified enough to pass under the copyright radar?

There is obviously something I am not considering and I'm curious.

As long as the people making these are not selling them there is no issue as neither PGI or the party holding the merchandising rights (Topps?) suffer any financial loss.

[Tesunie]

p4r4g0n, on 10 June 2016 - 06:19 PM, said:

As long as the people making these are not selling them there is no issue as neither PGI or the party holding the merchandising rights (Topps?) suffer any financial loss.

Strange thing with creative rights and copyrights.

You can draw/create something and sell it, even if it isn't of your original work/design. As long as it isn't an exact copy (AKA: You didn't just draw (even freehand) the exact picture from panel 3 page 5 of comic issue 4 of...) and was done completely by hand, you can sell it. (One example: If I was to draw an Ironman Fanart, and then sell it at a convention, I can do so.) I believe it also can't say the character's/whatever's name on it. (Such as stated example Ironman fanart for sale? Can't have "Ironman" plastered on it anywhere.)

In the case of this project:
- The base file was created by hand from one person. That design was for sale as a 3d printer format.
- The file was bought, and then printed at someone's home. Than assembled, posed and painted.
- If the person who printed, posed and painted the product went to sell it, they could so do as "creative work". As it is not to any scale of a game, it also is fine as far as being compared to TT minies. (Basically, it would be charging for the material to print the model, and the effort to paint the model.)

I've done it at times. I've bought, assembled and painted Warhammer 40k models for people, and then sold said models. Of course, I charged the cost of the model kits, and the effort of my own work. (Okay. I normally do it for free for friends.)

However, selling any copyrighted work is always a "grey" area of the law. In this case, it's a giant statue, which no other company is creating and selling. Thus, I don't believe any company has any claims to that "product" at this time. (And I doubt this would be done in any amount of quantity, another factor.)

Of course, I'm also no lawyer...

[p4r4g0n]

Tesunie, on 10 June 2016 - 06:33 PM, said:

-snip-
In the case of this project:
- The base file was created by hand from one person. That design was for sale as a 3d printer format.
-snip-

Based on descriptions of other similar projects, the file / model used to create the 3D print is usually based on models extracted from MWO files and modified to fill any gaps / omissions that would be visible in an actual physical 3D model. If this is also the case here, I doubt that PGI would remain silent if models were made in commercial quantities and sold.

The bigger issue here is that the company that holds the merchandising rights to Battletech would definitely be taking action and it is not PGI as they have previously stated that they do not hold these rights, if I recall correctly. This is why PGI is not producing and selling physical 3D models themselves, MWO apparel, etc.

Not sure how NGNG is dealing with this with respect to the merchandise that they are selling but then again, it could just be that the amount of sales are insufficient to trigger any action by the respective IP owners/licensees.

Edited by p4r4g0n, 11 June 2016 - 03:52 AM.

[Narcissistic Martyr]

Todd Lightbringer, on 19 May 2016 - 12:56 PM, said:

Why isn't PGI doing this and selling these? >_<

They don't have the license to sell physical products.

[Hitman85]

Is she poseable after assembly?

[Solid Alexei]

Thanks a lot for all your positive feedback guys! I really appreciate it! The extra custom details that the guys at Gambody added to the model really helps to bring life to it.

Hitman85, the model pieces did came with articulation but I decided against it at the end. Since I've printed the model solid it is very very heavy fully assembled so I ended up making it into a solid statue rather than an articulated model. Just need to design a stand for it now with some build in lights and such and she will look glorious!

I am wondering if this high poly Catapult model posted on these forums here a while ago is the model they used to convert it into print friendly parts. Looks awfully similar in terms of custom details:

http://mwomercs.com/...apult-3d-model/

Edited by Solid Alexei, 12 June 2016 - 12:10 AM.

[repete]

F@%&!

[King Kuranes]

I'm going to need a Warhammer Black Widow or 6R and Grasshopper 5P ASAP

[BulletChief]

i want to buy this thing

[Dirus Nigh]

Wow this looks great!
I see damage on the leg. Did you let Viking_Lass get to it?

Todd Lightbringer, on 19 May 2016 - 12:56 PM, said:

Why isn't PGI doing this and selling these? >_<

The do not have the right to do so. However their is nothing stopping players from using the game files to print out mechs for themselves. That is legal, or at least a grey area that has not become a problem to TOPPS. So long as no one tries to sell them. That is why HyperRPG can use 3D printed MWO mechs for the DFA show.

[Tesunie]

Dirus Nigh, on 18 June 2016 - 09:10 PM, said:

That is why HyperRPG can use 3D printed MWO mechs for the DFA show.

They may even have permission (possibly written) to use said files for printing models even... (Has no idea, but it is possible,)

[Dirus Nigh]

Tesunie, on 18 June 2016 - 09:17 PM, said:

They may even have permission (possibly written) to use said files for printing models even... (Has no idea, but it is possible,)

Highly probable that Wiesman helped Zac (the channels CEO) to make that deal.

[Solid Alexei]

Hey guys thanks for the positive feedback! Means a lot! If anyone would like to rate this model on Thingieverse here is the link where you can leave a quick score or feedback:

http://www.coolminio...owseid=15482771

Thanks so much folks!