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[Mystere]

Steve Pryde, on 20 May 2016 - 10:25 AM, said:

Just don't go into effectiv range. The fall off from clan uac10s is just a joke. It's like firing cannons from a pirat ship from the past.

Well, the damage falloffs imposed on half of the Clan energy weapons are an even bigger joke.

[Phra]

Gotcha.

Don't go anywhere near 600m, and don't look at it for more than half a second.

KDK3 sucks, buff please!

Edited by Phra, 20 May 2016 - 10:52 AM.

[Gas Guzzler]

Phra, on 20 May 2016 - 07:08 AM, said:

Have you actually tried it, or just being the usual forum warrior?

With a 375XL filled with DHS, totaling at 15, you can doubletap four all the **** you want on anything but Mordor and Hot Desert.

THAT, is the problem.

Of course I have tried it, and unless you get a couple jams, you are going to running hot in a hurry. The only times I can sustain double tapping for a while is when I have 1 or 2 UACs jammed.

And I run 18 or 19 DHS on mine...

Edited by Gas Guzzler, 20 May 2016 - 10:57 AM.

[Gas Guzzler]

So just to clarify, all the EXPERTS in this thread are saying that the meta is now Clan UAC10s? So it is safe to all complain about the dominant UAC10 meta that is ruining the game? Is that what we are going with?

And we are now concerned that TTK with ballistics is LOWER than it is with the evil laser vomit? Gee where I have a heard that before.....

[Bishop Steiner]

Gas Guzzler, on 20 May 2016 - 10:59 AM, said:

So just to clarify, all the EXPERTS in this thread are saying that the meta is now Clan UAC10s? So it is safe to all complain about the dominant UAC10 meta that is ruining the game? Is that what we are going with?

And we are now concerned that TTK with ballistics is LOWER than it is with the evil laser vomit? Gee where I have a heard that before.....

I'm sorry, can you provide some Identification proving your membership to the Experts Certification Board?

[Gas Guzzler]

Bishop Steiner, on 20 May 2016 - 11:29 AM, said:

I'm sorry, can you provide some Identification proving your membership to the Experts Certification Board?

Im not saying I'm an expert. Obviously the experts are the people in this thread who have OVERNIGHT (more or less) declared that UAC10S are now overpowered because they are getting killed by them all of a sudden.

Edited by Gas Guzzler, 20 May 2016 - 11:35 AM.

[Bishop Steiner]

Gas Guzzler, on 20 May 2016 - 11:34 AM, said:

Im not saying I'm an expert. Obviously the experts are the people in this thread who have OVERNIGHT (more or less) declared that UAC10S are now overpowered because they are getting killed by them all of a sudden.

I know, just having fun wit ya.

I don't always agree with you, Revis, Quicksilver, but I usually do respect and listen to your input. As you manage to do it sans the Dbaggery certain other members of your unit tend to approach the Forums with.

Heck in recent months the only thing I even have disagreed with you guys on is the nature of the Meta... and that's because Comp Game and Quick Play GenPop Game and Meta realyl don't line up ATM. In GenPop, the Meta still is (or at least pre Bear-a-Geddon) mostly Vomit.

The last few days, well, yeah, lots of Dakka... though IDK if it'll shift long term Meta for the Underhive and such, and it seems to take more skill to hit the minimally effective floor considered GenPop acceptable than lightsabering a ton of PewPew does.

The GenPop Meta USUALLY is a dirty mirror of the Comp Meta, the exception being when the Comp Meta requires a small modicum of skill to be effective. Then it seems much less likely to be aped by the masses.

[Khereg]

I don't see a huge issue. It feels like people b*tch about whatever's working/popular at the moment: Clan laser vomit OP. LRM's OP. IS laser vomit OP. Splat's OP. IS dakka OP. Clan dakka OP. All said in serious threads on these forums at one time or another.

I'm not saying nothing ever caused a problem, but in the history of MWO OP-ness, I don't see the Kodiak 4 UAC10 build breaking the game. It's just new and you're seeing a lot of it. Give it 3 weeks and things will settle down.

[LastKhan]

Tell ya what get russ or paul to do something with the reg clan ACs then we can discuss about clan UACs.

Edited by LastKhan, 20 May 2016 - 12:04 PM.

[wanderer]

I find the saltiness on the -3 hilarious.

Dire Wolves had this weapon layout. Nobody complained.

It's the same weapons, no ballistic quirks, just on a more agile chassis with higher hardpoints.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...01801ccae6a7542

It's just that finally, the Clans got an assault that doesn't have serious flaws hardwired into the 'Mech. Cue the salt mining.

[Aresye]

Bishop Steiner, on 20 May 2016 - 11:29 AM, said:

I'm sorry, can you provide some Identification proving your membership to the Experts Certification Board?

Show some respect to your future Div A comp player pls...

[Quicksilver Aberration]

Aresye, on 20 May 2016 - 12:11 PM, said:

Show some respect to your future Div A comp player pls...

I'm pretty sure he was poking fun at Gas, not being super serious, I think you can take down a notch Airy Sea Caring Sky .

[Gyrok]

Gentleman Reaper, on 19 May 2016 - 08:28 PM, said:

Once all the clan-tech is even with IS, then they could get the quirks they need. LRMs and SRMs are good, lasers are still debated, although good enough for now, UACs in general need to be re-imagined, not just the clan's, normal ACs need velocity buffs, and LB-Xs need spread buffs, did I miss anything?

Umm, lots of IS tech is outright superior to most clan tech.

Evidently you missed a lot.

[Aresye]

Quicksilver Kalasa, on 20 May 2016 - 12:15 PM, said:

I'm pretty sure he was poking fun at Gas, not being super serious, I think you can take down a notch Airy Sea Caring Sky .

I know. I was building off that.

What, did you think I was serious?

[Quicksilver Aberration]

Aresye, on 20 May 2016 - 12:19 PM, said:

What, did you think I was serious?

Maybe

[Gyrok]

Gas Guzzler, on 20 May 2016 - 11:34 AM, said:

Im not saying I'm an expert. Obviously the experts are the people in this thread who have OVERNIGHT (more or less) declared that UAC10S are now overpowered because they are getting killed by them all of a sudden.

I honestly feel like 10s and 5s ends up being the better build.

[Quicksilver Aberration]

Gyrok, on 20 May 2016 - 12:38 PM, said:

I honestly feel like 10s and 5s ends up being the better build.

It does, it feels more like your typical dakka build, though even it can build up heat if you don't run into jamming issues. The desync between the 5 and 10 velocities is a problem though (which is why I started playing the 6 UAC5 Whale instead of the 2 UAC10/3 UAC5 version).

Edited by Quicksilver Kalasa, 20 May 2016 - 12:42 PM.

[Shalune]

Quote

Asymmetrical balancing almost never works

Starcraft
Counter-Strike
Street Fighter 2 (hell every fighting game ever)
DotA (and again, the entire genre)

I'll stop there not because I've run out asymmetrical competitive video games, but because I've run out of video games of any description played at the competitive level that those are.

Edited by Shalune, 20 May 2016 - 12:50 PM.

[L3mming2]

Gyrok, on 20 May 2016 - 12:38 PM, said:

I honestly feel like 10s and 5s ends up being the better build.

2 10's and 2 5's suplemented with 2erml's for the alpha when you need it work way better for me than 4 10's
the ghost heat on a fast double tap with 4 10's make the mech to hot imo and its always nice to have some form of back up weapons when you run out of ammo.

[Bishop Steiner]

Aresye, on 20 May 2016 - 12:11 PM, said:

Show some respect to your future Div A comp player pls...

But but but....If I was to play nice with you Comp Guys, the universe would implode or sumtin!

We all know you're lore hating homewreckers!