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#1 Jimmy Page

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Posted 25 May 2016 - 02:01 AM

This latest powercreep mech release has quite possibly destroyed the game. We now have terrabads playing 100 ton mechs and hiding. It should be used to PUSH with it's speed. Can we have a tier 0, with a 20k game minimum? These players know what they are doing and do not require instructions. We play and have fun. It is simply not worth playing with mouth breathers in the other tiers. let them derp in their own terrabad queue please PGI.

#2 Navid A1

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Posted 25 May 2016 - 02:06 AM

I prefer carrying brain-deads over waiting for 19 minutes for a game... thank you.

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Posted 25 May 2016 - 02:07 AM

The 1 percent indeed! Enjoy the waiting times such a Tier 0 only would have.

#4 Jimmy Page

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Posted 25 May 2016 - 02:09 AM

Plenty of us old timers for tier 0. No worries there.

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Posted 25 May 2016 - 02:18 AM

View PostJimmy Page, on 25 May 2016 - 02:01 AM, said:

Can we have a tier 0,

You aren't going to make it to dat Tier-God anyway, I'm sure of it Posted Image

#6 Navid A1

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Posted 25 May 2016 - 02:22 AM

View PostJimmy Page, on 25 May 2016 - 02:09 AM, said:

Plenty of us old timers for tier 0. No worries there.


By plenty, you mean 20?

Old timers I know hardly have more than 10K matches. All of them took long breaks now and then!

#7 El Bandito

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Posted 25 May 2016 - 02:25 AM

I don't think all of my matches from 2012 til now will add to 10K, let alone 20k. It will be probably slightly over 9k.

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Posted 25 May 2016 - 02:28 AM

View PostEl Bandito, on 25 May 2016 - 02:25 AM, said:

I don't think all of my matches from 2012 til now will add to 10K, let alone 20k. It will be probably slightly over 9k.


I've been playing since closed beta and i only have 17K.
I know only 2-3 people over 20K matches

#9 DerMaulwurf

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Posted 25 May 2016 - 02:32 AM

I already regularly get matched with T3 players. Which means that even with the current easy entry T1 cannot sustain T1-only matchmaking.

Making a T0 will be pointless, since it'll either be diluted with the next few tiers or have unacceptable waiting times.

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Posted 25 May 2016 - 02:43 AM

All joking aside. This game has a really bad new player experience. Little to no tutorial explaining much of anything. It is a big reason the player base is so small. This game could have been so good, and so popular. Instead we are stuck with this buy a new overpowered mech, then nerf it when it comes out for cbills. That is Pay To Win.

#11 DarthHias

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Posted 25 May 2016 - 02:56 AM

20k matches lol GL HF

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Posted 25 May 2016 - 03:18 AM

Pffft - the last time this game tried to create an "elite country club for only the truly skilled," we got the ghost town of Community Warfare, where the amount of epeen polishing was greater than the number of matches played.

This game doesn't need a tier 0; what it needs is far better built-in guides for new players, particularly with regard to mech construction. Nearly every stock mech is basically unplayable in stock form, and even half the champion mechs are nothing to write home about. That's a horrible way to start new players off.

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Posted 25 May 2016 - 05:51 AM

This game has more than enough players that simply don't get better, ever. Being terrible at playing videogames is incredbly widespread within this community. I'm pretty sure a considerable amount of MWOs T1 players wouldn't even make it out of silver ranks in CS:GO.

If you create a new T0 with higher entry requirements, it would just take a bit longer for people to get there (if it's either using the current rating system or just straight up "play x number of games", which the current PSR pretty much already is). They actually won't be better by then.

This game simply has a woefully low average player skill. Deal with it, there is no way to change it. Even in the highest rank of MWO play you will see people that wouldn't make it out of the lowest ranks in other games. This game targets a niche market full of old (on average compared to other games), casual players. During more than 15 years of playing FPS online, i have never seen a single game with lower average player skill. There is no way to seperate really good players from the rest, because there are simply not enough. It would absolutely nuke matchmaking.

Edited by meteorol, 25 May 2016 - 05:53 AM.


#14 PyckenZot

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Posted 25 May 2016 - 05:57 AM

View PostJimmy Page, on 25 May 2016 - 02:01 AM, said:

This latest powercreep mech release has quite possibly destroyed the game. We now have terrabads playing 100 ton mechs and hiding. It should be used to PUSH with it's speed. Can we have a tier 0, with a 20k game minimum? These players know what they are doing and do not require instructions. We play and have fun. It is simply not worth playing with mouth breathers in the other tiers. let them derp in their own terrabad queue please PGI.



Plenty of peeps with plenty of games behind them to get a tier 0 running.

But what, in whoever you call holy's name, makes you think that would ensure all players know what they're doing?

You'd have me in there and I run fun-builds half of the time Posted Image

Edited by PyckenZot, 25 May 2016 - 06:35 AM.


#15 MeiSooHaityu

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Posted 25 May 2016 - 06:25 AM

They make a Tier 0. Briefly, BRIEFLY the players seem to play like you want (with a few exceptions). Then people level up from Tier 1 to Tier 0.

Uhh Ohh... Now they need a Tier -1!

Now Tier -2....Now Tier-3....Now Tier -4...and on and on and on....

I don't know, just do your best and try and coordinate who you drop with. Besides, for all the people who you think are bad on your team, the other team has to deal with them on their team too. It goes both ways.

#16 Narcissistic Martyr

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Posted 25 May 2016 - 06:36 AM

Tier 0 for those with 0 life? Seems appropriate lol.

Honestly, I'm just jealous how much time you guys have to play.

#17 TercieI

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Posted 25 May 2016 - 06:40 AM

View PostJimmy Page, on 25 May 2016 - 02:01 AM, said:

This latest powercreep mech release has quite possibly destroyed the game. We now have terrabads playing 100 ton mechs and hiding. It should be used to PUSH with it's speed. Can we have a tier 0, with a 20k game minimum? These players know what they are doing and do not require instructions. We play and have fun. It is simply not worth playing with mouth breathers in the other tiers. let them derp in their own terrabad queue please PGI.


LOL. The problem with tiers is that they're a glorified XP bar and your solution is to make the top tier locked behind an XP wall. Hahahahahahahahahahaaaaa.

#18 Mystere

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Posted 25 May 2016 - 06:43 AM

View Postoldradagast, on 25 May 2016 - 03:18 AM, said:

Pffft - the last time this game tried to create an "elite country club for only the truly skilled," we got the ghost town of Community Warfare, where the amount of epeen polishing was greater than the number of matches played.


Actually, that title is owned by the now defunct 12-man only group queue.

At least solos can play and thrive in CW.

Edited by Mystere, 25 May 2016 - 06:44 AM.


#19 Ryllen Kriel

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Posted 25 May 2016 - 10:38 AM

The first rule about Tier 0 is that there is no Tier 0. The second rule about Tier 0...

...is two tiers in a bucket, mother-**** it!

Seriously, this is a game, not a job. TIers don't matter.

#20 Escef

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Posted 25 May 2016 - 11:26 AM

View PostJimmy Page, on 25 May 2016 - 02:01 AM, said:

We now have terrabads playing 100 ton mechs and hiding.


Now? NOW? NOW?!

Where the hell have you been for the past three years that you didn't see this until NOW?!





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