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#1 MechWarrior319348

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Posted 31 May 2016 - 01:58 AM

Hello there,

I have a lot of fun playing with you guys. But there is a language barrier. Can you give me some very basic phrases I can say when I am making calls, or orders? I would imagine you might have some catchy phrases that are specific to MWO?


I want to be able to say things like:
  • Move Foward
  • Flank right
  • Flank left
  • Fall Back
  • Fold Right
  • Fold Left
  • Encircle them
  • Pincer
  • LRM boat at grid so and so
  • Sniper at grid so and so
  • Main enemy force spotted at grid so and so
  • Don't chase that squirrel

I'm sorry If it seems Cliche of me to ask something like this (My title tells it all), but I am truly curious.

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Posted 31 May 2016 - 02:07 AM

You can call it in english as well.

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Posted 31 May 2016 - 02:14 AM

A great deal of people from European countries are fluent in multiple languages, I already know that.

But I am not.....

I can has knowledge??

Also Deutsch and English are so similar. Its interesting.

I'm really just curious, was this a bad way to go about learning this?

Edited by Delta 62, 31 May 2016 - 02:25 AM.


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Posted 31 May 2016 - 03:37 AM

Vorwärts
Flankiert rechts
Flankiert links
Zurückfallen
Rechtsrum
Linksrum
Kreist sie ein
LRM boat auf …
Sniper auf...
Die Meisten auf...
Jagt nicht hinterher

Edited by Flitzomat, 31 May 2016 - 03:44 AM.


#5 H I A S

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Posted 31 May 2016 - 04:01 AM

View PostDelta 62, on 31 May 2016 - 02:14 AM, said:

Also Deutsch and English are so similar. Its interesting.



because English has (mostly) developed from Low German (? Niederdeutsch).

England and we have the same language family

Edited by arivio, 31 May 2016 - 04:22 AM.


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Posted 31 May 2016 - 06:04 AM

German and English share words from the indogermanic base language. English is further influenced by Romanic loan words which mostly came via French, for example via. Or example Posted Image

So example can be translated as "Beispiel", more rare "Exempel" which is only used in certain contexts with a largely negative connotation.

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Posted 31 May 2016 - 06:30 AM

Deutsch ist auch romanisch beeinflusst (römisches Reich, Kirchenlatein usw.).

In England haben viel Sachsen und Angeln gesiedelt (Angelsachsen lol) und die haben damals Niederdeutsch gesprochen (später beeinflusst durch das romanische und normannische), während im südlichen Siedlungsraum (Baiern usw.) Althochdeutsch (Vorgänger des jetzigen Deutsch) gesprochen wurde.

Niederländisch (nicht der Franzmannteil) ist ebenfalls aus dem Niederdeutschen hervorgegangen und in Ostfriesland ist auch noch einiges am leben.

Man könnte also sagen, Englisch ist nur ein vereinfachter deutscher Dialekt :P

Edited by arivio, 31 May 2016 - 07:13 AM.


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Posted 31 May 2016 - 08:29 AM

Nicht umsonst hat König Arthur den Sachsen das Angeln beigebracht!Posted Image

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Posted 31 May 2016 - 08:56 AM

View PostDelta 62, on 31 May 2016 - 01:58 AM, said:

I have a lot of fun playing with you guys. But there is a language barrier.


Normally there shoudn't be any barrier. Germans who are nerdy enough playing Mechwarrior Online should be able to speak more or less fluently english ...

... and in addition either Klingon or at least Quenya (elvish language) :P

Edited by xe N on, 31 May 2016 - 08:57 AM.


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Posted 31 May 2016 - 09:04 AM

Wieso sagt ihr denn Niederdeutsch? Nennts doch beim Namen - Plattdeutsch. ;)

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Posted 31 May 2016 - 09:11 AM

Nun ja. Bei einem so kleinen Flecken wie Europa wäre es auch verwunderlich, wenn nicht annähernd jede Sprache von Ihren Nachbarn beeinflusst wäre.

Ausnahme: Finnen und Ungarn.

BTT:

View PostDelta 62, on 31 May 2016 - 01:58 AM, said:

  • Move Foward
  • Flank right
  • Flank left
  • Fall Back
  • Fold Right
  • Fold Left
  • Encircle them
  • Pincer
  • LRM boat at grid so and so
  • Sniper at grid so and so
  • Main enemy force spotted at grid so and so
  • Don't chase that squirrel
From my experience, these commands don't work in German. Neither in English. And it's not a language problem, but more a problem of online gaming in general. It's way too complex.

The traditional greeting: "Morgen Ihr Luschen!" followed by same basic directions "Bewegt eure Ärsche zu [Name of Grid]!"
and some motivational cheering: "Attacke! Macht sie fertig!" should do the trick.

Edited by Sthtopokeon, 31 May 2016 - 09:18 AM.


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Posted 31 May 2016 - 09:22 AM

Ja da hat der arivio schon recht, deswegen habe ich ja gesagt die Wurzel ist das indogermanische aus dem diese ganze Sprachfamilie abstammt Posted Image



Die romanische Beeinflussung des Deutschen ist eben hauptsächlich durch das Lateinische geschehen, während die romanischen Lehnwörter des Englischen schon durch das Französische vorgekaut waren ^^
Daher die Unterschiede in den romanischen Lehnwörtern die in beiden Sprachen vorkommen.

Edited by DarthHias, 31 May 2016 - 09:27 AM.


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Posted 31 May 2016 - 10:34 AM

I dont think this helps, but here the Austrian Dialekt Version.

English - Austrian Posted Image

Move Foward - Zah Au
Flank right - Schleich di rechts umi
Flank left - Schleich di aufd audere Seit
Fall Back - Hots di gschmissn
Fold Right - bist du da Adi
Fold Left - servus Gysi
Encircle them - fohr mitm Riesnradl im Proda
Pincer - geh moi wieda zum Friser
LRM boat at grid so and so - arivio flakt in D5
Sniper at grid so and so - crymoa fladert schon wieda in D5
Main enemy force spotted at grid so and so - Heuriger in D5
Don't chase that squirrel - moch net scho wieda sauber

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Posted 31 May 2016 - 10:44 AM

View Postxe N on, on 31 May 2016 - 08:56 AM, said:


Normally there shoudn't be any barrier. Germans who are nerdy enough playing Mechwarrior Online should be able to speak more or less fluently english ...

... and in addition either Klingon or at least Quenya (elvish language) Posted Image

I just needed an excuse to learn a little bit of German..

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Posted 31 May 2016 - 12:27 PM

View PostDelta 62, on 31 May 2016 - 10:44 AM, said:

I just needed an excuse to learn a little bit of German..


https://youtu.be/P22gPwGuLa0?t=16s

Edited by Stahlherz, 01 June 2016 - 07:10 AM.


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Posted 31 May 2016 - 01:37 PM

Well, in Case you come across an an southern German Drink and Drive Unit-Evening, this small Lectures in Old Bavarian may be helpfull.





There may be a Situation where some decent ranting is usefull. In the next Video you may finde some intresting bavarian Verbs. (Use at own Risk)






But you may want to avoid some special Themes. Bavarians can be verry sensitive sometimes. Posted Image






PS: only for Information, the upper Part is just joking.


As far as possible for me, here the Phrases in Bavarian. Remember, every Village in Bavaria use its own Dialect.
  • Move Foward - Auf gehts Buam, klatsch mas.
  • Flank right - da nüber jetzad.
  • Flank left - na de ander Seitn du Depp.
  • Fall Back - Au weia, blos wegad doa.
  • Fold Right
  • Fold Left
  • Encircle them - Allle auffa
  • Pincer
  • LRM boat at grid so and so - do hintn is oana.
  • Sniper at grid so and so - und doda a andrer.
  • Main enemy force spotted at grid so and so - Hee, de san allle...
  • Don't chase that squirrel - Jetzad lHimnmehergottnomaina, losts amoi de kloana in ruah.

Edited by Revorn, 31 May 2016 - 02:32 PM.


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Posted 31 May 2016 - 02:22 PM

View PostStahlherz, on 31 May 2016 - 12:27 PM, said:


If you highlight the link, and push the link button at the top(under the size box), you can once again paste the link. You will link the original link to itself.

This will post the video here.

Ohhhhhhh you started it at a specific time, I hate that you cant embed videos that start at a specific time.

Edited by Delta 62, 01 June 2016 - 05:10 PM.


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Posted 31 May 2016 - 04:03 PM

I've been having fun with the google translator.

I didn't even know it existed until about 5 minutes ago.

View Postarivio, on 31 May 2016 - 06:30 AM, said:

Man könnte also sagen, Englisch ist nur ein vereinfachter deutscher Dialekt Posted Image


That comes out in google as "So you could say , English is only a simplified dialect of German."

Imagine If games had a built in engine like google does for translating.......... I imagine some things might get messed up once in a while though.....



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Posted 31 May 2016 - 10:46 PM

Here is an index of MWO terms and their translations:
http://mwomercs.com/...ex-und-glossar/

In my experience the English terms are more commonly used in play by the German community than the German counterparts.

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Posted 01 June 2016 - 05:26 AM

First, @Delta, of course, you can learn german.. but it would be better, if you would give commands in English.. It is not, just, that some of the players would perhaps, just laugh at your german pronuncaiton, instead of following your commands (not to mention, what if not all players under your command can understand the german language..).. But, it would be a much bigger problem, when they would try to answer you.. Because, german players do not use a "clear German", they use their own dialect.. And to understand that, you need to born as a german or least to have something like a college degree in german language.. (You know, major german news channels often use german subtitles for their german viewers.. because many of the dialects could even an average german not really or fully understand..)

So, you should stay by english as command language, just try to use simple and short words (like: Go to/Push/Stop). Use the spelling alphabet for coordinates, not just simple english letters. (So, use "Echo/Foxtrot" instead of "E/F".) Speak slow, clear and loud enough. And, please try to use "dictionary" english (or as close as you just can), not your own english dialect. Posted Image

But, if you really want to learn german, while you playing MWO.. You should look after small german player groups with TS.. size about 1-2 lances..


Und zu euch, ... bitte, vergisst nicht, dass besonders in den letzten Jahrhundert, den Deutsche Sprache hat sehr-sehr viele englische Wörte eingebaut..

Edited by Sky Hawk, 01 June 2016 - 05:27 AM.






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