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[Roadkill]

Johnny Z, on 01 June 2016 - 12:23 AM, said:

I'm not even sure, but didn't the Romans use metric?

What's a cubit?

[Paigan]

SS4GOGETA, on 31 May 2016 - 02:04 PM, said:

This post is exactly as the title explains. I'm sure there are many players who would prefer Miles Per Hour as opposed to Kilometers. Same with Feet/Yards, is there an option for that and I've missed it or is there not one? If not there really should be an option for it.

SS4GOGETA, on 31 May 2016 - 02:14 PM, said:

The problem is I don't like Kilometers, I'm used to Miles for speed and Feet/Yards for distance. And if boxes of cinnamon toast crunch were used to measure distance in this game it wouldn't work out very well. And surely PGI's finances aren't that terrible. At least I hope not.

SS4GOGETA, on 31 May 2016 - 02:17 PM, said:

Oh dear Battletech making Miles illegal. That's no fun.

Murican's use the Imperial system because we don't care to fit in and be a sheep like everybody else. And because MERICA that's why.

My god, you confirm the worst clichés there are about US-Americans.
One of them being you're probably not even aware or ashamed of your behavior, but are probably proud of it.

Go and vote for Trump and kill us all, I can't stop you. Only hope to survive you people.

Edited by Paigan, 01 June 2016 - 08:06 AM.

[Roadkill]

SteelBruiser, on 01 June 2016 - 07:40 AM, said:

WWI primary location Europe (metric)
WWII primary location , Europe, Asia, Africa (metric)
Korean War primary location Korea (metric)
Vietnam War primary location Vietnam, Cambodia (metric)
The various wars and military actions in the Middle East (metric).

Every location our military has been needed has been in countries using the metric system...so of course our military would adopt in order to be effective where the wars are bound to occur.

The Chinese eat very little fat and suffer fewer heart attacks than the British, Australians or Americans.
The French eat a lot of fat and also suffer fewer heart attacks than the British, Australians or Americans.
The Japanese drink very little red wine and suffer fewer heart attacks than the British, Australians or Americans.
The Italians drink excessive amounts of red wine and also suffer fewer heart attacks than the British, Australians or Americans.
The Germans drink a lot of beers and eat lots of sausages and fats and suffer fewer heart attacks than the British, Australians or Americans.
The Latinos eat lots of Chilli and suffer fewer heart attacks than the British, Australians or American

CONCLUSION:
Eat and drink what you like. Speaking English is what kills you.

[MeiSooHaityu]

LordKnightFandragon, on 01 June 2016 - 07:54 AM, said:

Yes, yes it is. When im playing the Euro Truck sim and I had it in KPH, I had that truck going 80KPH, it felt like I was speeding so bad, I always ended up going like 60KPH....I just then found the MPH setting in the options menu haha.

ETS2 does exaggerate speed quite a bit. I don't care if I speed in the game too much, so I try to do about 115kph or so on the main expressways and about 90kph on the smaller back roads (when possible).

Those speeds aren't really that fast, but the game makes you feel like you are going so fast you are practically out of control.

I suppose when you are in vehicles that tend not to go too quickly, you need to exaggerate the speed a bit to make it a bit more entertaining.

It probably doesn't help that I steer with a wireless 360 controller with that little thumb stick. It makes passing a semi on the left, while a guard rail is next to you, on a curve, while doing 115kph a bit nerve racking lol.

[SteelBruiser]

cazidin, on 01 June 2016 - 07:51 AM, said:

So then why haven't we, as a nation, adapted to this almost universal system when our military has so often? I wonder how many billions it'd cost to change every road sign?

We're getting there. Rulers, measuring tapes, speedometers and food products have both scales on them. And mile markers can be upgraded to show both scales when they're replaced due to damage. The conversion cost is being spread over wide period of time. Eventually America will be converted to metric. And by that time the metric system will be considered normal by the population.

[mogs01gt]

SS4GOGETA, on 31 May 2016 - 02:04 PM, said:

This post is exactly as the title explains. I'm sure there are many players who would prefer Miles Per Hour as opposed to Kilometers. Same with Feet/Yards, is there an option for that and I've missed it or is there not one? If not there really should be an option for it.

why? Learn how to use the Metric system!

[Dino Might]

Most of us are actually using SI instead of CGS (what many call the "metric" or old "metric" system). It's definitely a more user friendly system in terms of calculation, and in a game where scale is so arbitrary, I really couldn't see a benefit of using imperial.

[Raso]

The scale in this game is so arbitrary they could measure it in quatloos for all I care. At the end of the day the PPC doesn't do jack under 90 numbers and I I would prefer not to have to multiply each Whatzits by 3.28084 so it equals the same length measured in Centiwhos.

[DONTOR]

SS4GOGETA, on 31 May 2016 - 02:17 PM, said:

Oh dear Battletech making Miles illegal. That's no fun.

Murican's use the Imperial system because we don't care to fit in and be a sheep like everybody else. And because MERICA that's why.

Yep we use it, and were the most influential country in the world, maybe we're on to something.

Measure distance in boxes of cinnamon toast crunch LOL.

[pizzafly]

Paigan, on 01 June 2016 - 08:04 AM, said:

My god, you confirm the worst clichés there are about US-Americans.
One of them being you're probably not even aware or ashamed of your behavior, but are probably proud of it.

Go and vote for Trump and kill us all, I can't stop you. Only hope to survive you people.

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OMG, this is the second post by Paigan I completly agree with.....

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[Bud Crue]

Since this is the MWO forums, it behooves us consider the following:

Metric is OP and needs to be nerfed. English units need a buff.

Refunds of pre-orders must be demanded in order for Russ and PGI to understand this horrid injustice of balance. Get off your island and cut off PGI now for the good of the game and measurement equality!

[Narcissistic Martyr]

Bud Crue, on 01 June 2016 - 09:29 AM, said:

Since this is the MWO forums, it behooves us consider the following:

Metric is OP and needs to be nerfed. English units need a buff.

Refunds of pre-orders must be demanded in order for Russ and PGI to understand this horrid injustice of balance. Get off your island and cut off PGI now for the good of the game and measurement equality!

Can we go the other way and just get the US to switch?

[Moldur]

I don't know what most of you guys assume the U.S. to be like, but we use the metric system for the majority of academic endeavours (and track.) Like I said before, the screws and measurements of everything my house is made of? Probably imperial. The old car? Imperial. All of the road signs? Imperial. It's not like we're all ******* ******* and keep the imperial system around just to be contrarians.

Besides, it's not that hard to develop your sense of scale for both systems. It's still a lot nicer, in my personal opinion, to give oddball measurements of handheld objects in inches, which there is no close relative to in the metric system. It's a 1:2.5 conversion, or about the length of the terminal segment of your finger.

[Johnny Z]

Moldur, on 01 June 2016 - 10:32 AM, said:

I don't know what most of you guys assume the U.S. to be like, but we use the metric system for the majority of academic endeavours (and track.) Like I said before, the screws and measurements of everything my house is made of? Probably imperial. The old car? Imperial. All of the road signs? Imperial. It's not like we're all ******* ******* and keep the imperial system around just to be contrarians.

Besides, it's not that hard to develop your sense of scale for both systems. It's still a lot nicer, in my personal opinion, to give oddball measurements of handheld objects in inches, which there is no close relative to in the metric system. It's a 1:2.5 conversion, or about the length of the terminal segment of your finger.

Yep. I like metric, because logic. But being in construction for so long there is a beauty to the Imperial system that metric simply doesn't match. All standard doors are 7 feet high and standard ceilings 8 feet high. Metric cant do that, to put it simply.

Distance on the other hand, there isn't an argument for Imperial... Maybe nautical(almost put knotical because they used to use knots to measure. So actually knotical is the correct spelling. ) miles? Not to much experience on the water.

Edited by Johnny Z, 01 June 2016 - 10:42 AM.

[Chuck Jager]

Kaeb Odellas, on 01 June 2016 - 04:10 AM, said:

The US military uses the metric system to measure distances. What's more American than the military?

Also is not the military a organization that could be run privately, but is actually run by the government. That's socialism and Muricans will never support socialism ever, they will just hide their head in the sand from it like the metric system.

If I remember correctly around 3rd - 4th grade most Murican math teaches different base number systems, and it is pretty obvious that base 10 is the simplest. This is done as a way to transition from simple math (base10) into more complex and harder to understand equations.

Simple is better when dealing with the raw data or else the chance of error increases as more modifiers are added.

[Johnny Z]

Roadkill, on 01 June 2016 - 08:04 AM, said:

What's a cubit?

A measurement of original metric I guess. Those dark ages sure did mess up a lot of things or what.

I bet you didn't know that the romans used sonar. Well they did. Well they used sound to measure distance in fog and stuff like that. Any really old sailor knows that to.

By the way North and South America were known about well before gun powder and Columbus. Almost common knowledge, they just didn't want to tangle with anyone in that area until after gun powder was in common use. Common knowledge among Spanish fishermen anyway. Not in any detail of course.

Edited by Johnny Z, 01 June 2016 - 11:08 AM.

[Josef Koba]

I think it's a reasonable request, though one I don't particularly care for, given some people's unfamiliarity with metric. I'm prior military and have lived all over the world, so I'm well-versed in either system. That said, I sure wish this sort of thing didn't constantly devolve into nationalistic bashing. We use imperial. So what? The rest of you all use metric. Great. It isn't all that hard for users of either system to have a decent understanding of the other system. Moving on...

[Josef Koba]

Chuck Jager, on 01 June 2016 - 10:42 AM, said:

Also is not the military a organization that could be run privately, but is actually run by the government. That's socialism and Muricans will never support socialism ever, they will just hide their head in the sand from it like the metric system.

It isn't even universally true that the military uses metric. At least not when I was in. In the Marine Corps, ground stuff uses metric, most air stuff uses standard/imperial. So we do air speed in knots, altitude in feet, weapons/sensor ranges in miles or feet for aircraft. Tanks use kilometers, kph, arty uses kilometers, etc. Marine airwingers had to be pretty familiar with both systems.

[Aresye]

LOL, I guess OP doesn't realize that the US military more often uses the metric system than they do imperial, so it's pretty realistic in that regard anyway, making the whole topic and argument completely pointless.

Weapon ranges for crew served weapons and small arms? All metric.
Hellfire missile ranges and engagement envelopes? All metric.
MGRS? Metric as well.

[Dino Might]

Johnny Z, on 01 June 2016 - 10:36 AM, said:

Yep. I like metric, because logic. But being in construction for so long there is a beauty to the Imperial system that metric simply doesn't match. All standard doors are 7 feet high and standard ceilings 8 feet high. Metric cant do that, to put it simply.

Distance on the other hand, there isn't an argument for Imperial... Maybe nautical(almost put knotical because they used to use knots to measure. So actually knotical is the correct spelling. ) miles? Not to much experience on the water.

nautical mile - a distance equal to one minute of latitude
knot - a speed equal to one nautical mile per hour

knot is not derived from nautical, but rather from the system they used to use on ships to measure speed, essentially counting knots on a rope as it was thrown overboard behind the ship in a given time. The knots measured a set distance so you could tell how much rope you trailed in a given time.

They use this terminology for aircraft as well, usually just saying "miles" instead of "nautical miles" for short, because almost everyone uses nautical miles for aviation.

Josef Koba, on 01 June 2016 - 10:52 AM, said:

It isn't even universally true that the military uses metric. At least not when I was in. In the Marine Corps, ground stuff uses metric, most air stuff uses standard/imperial. So we do air speed in knots, altitude in feet, weapons/sensor ranges in miles or feet for aircraft. Tanks use kilometers, kph, arty uses kilometers, etc. Marine airwingers had to be pretty familiar with both systems.

US Air uses distance in nautical miles, altitude in feet, and weapons/sensors ranges in nautical miles; however other countries use SI units (e.g., Russia) for some. Nautical Mile is neither imperial nor metric, but it's an agreed upon unit by just about everyone because of the ease of use in plotting on charts. See above for definition.