Catamount, on 03 June 2016 - 10:35 AM, said:
In other words, if you take the games you like, throw out the games you don't like, and claim it's a representative average then... you know what? I'm not even sure where this line of reasoning is going, so you'll have to explain to me how that one works. I'm afraid here on "wrong world" we didn't learn that one in college statistics.
Where I'm from, if the mean advantage, across a large sample of games that aren't hand-picked, doesn't strongly land in favor of the 970, then the 970 isn't outperforming the 290x - it's just outperforming it in certain games, and likewise being beaten in others, which is no net advantage, but hey, I get it, "net" and "mean" refer to something entirely different in Nvidia world than a science or math classroom. Some day someone will have to sit down and explain that one to me.
AMD's market share had a single bad year, 2014. Thus far, you've been unable to offer a single reason when their GPUs in this year were better, sans marketing.
I'm sure, somewhere in here, there is a point that has something to do with the claim of AMD uniquely over-hyping their GPUs, but I haven't dug far enough to find it and I'm starting to hit granite.
No, just you.
Dude the standard of argument was blown away by your admission in several threads to be an AMD fan boy, and you demonstrated this across your posting history, there is zero way you can claim to be neutral .
You would like citation on what? How poor crossfire and SLI have both been for how long now?
Or the fact you'll need to 480's as you would 970's for VR to actually be acceptable?
Or you want a citation on how AMD's internal slides have been inaccurate in the past?
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No, it's taking a sample of games in a benchmark suite, alot of which are repeated in many other suites because they stress cards, crysis and metro for certain, some appear in the same article you linked. I didn't realize linking other benchmarks was a downside these days.....well only if it doesn't fit your point i guess.
People don't sit there and look for mean averages across games they have no interest in playing, they look for games they play or games that play on the same engines to see how their card performs.
If my game were Battlefield, how the card performs in Batman means nothing to me.
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Why they were better? Maxwell was universally praised or are you just ignoring that? Not only for it's leading performance, but its power consumption while doing that. something the 300 series couldn't match.
If AMD cards had been that good, more would have sold in the discrete market where the builders like us would buy them, at the 20% mark of market share, i would suggest they are barely competing.
The 480 is a good card at a good price, it's only being talked about because of it's price, because we have had 970 performance for how long now..and with this low priced card the second hand market on 300 series and 970/980 cards will tank...which is a good thing for anyone buying and not selling that is.
Edited by Oderint dum Metuant, 03 June 2016 - 11:51 AM.