Helene de Montfort, on 09 June 2016 - 11:51 AM, said:
Who asked for this? Nobody... So if you doesn't feel concerned by macros banning, why the **** are you posting here? Just to show us you are a pgm because you have pgm hardware? Or just so everybody know that you are such a pgm that you're even better than any player, even ones using macros?
I'm pretty sure however that you don't want to compare the relative price of our gaming hardware... Trust me, no FPS player can compete with combat flight sims players in this category.
Because, I was making a point.
Mine is hardly the only MMOG mouse on the market. Logitech makes one, Corsair makes one, and there's at least two off brands that make one each.
The Naga, and it's competitors give me an advantage over people that don't have them a pretty damn big one at that. I have 12 keys on the side of my mouse alone, that I can use for various functions. Everything from weapon groups, to UAV, ECM, Arty/Airstrike, to even my Missile Doors.
In MMOs, with SHIFT, and ALT keys my fingers, aside from my right pinky NEVER have to leave the WASD, keys for anything but strafing, to activate 36 abilities, in any combination or sequence possible, faster in many cases than the games global cooldowns will allow me to. (Or in the case of games like STO which use a Shared/Separate CD system, multiple combinations nearly simultaneously. When I was fully in practice in competitive pvp in STO alone I could fire off every ability I had on the trays in under a second and a half. So yes...that IS faster than complex keybinds/macros in that particular case. But I also had THOUSANDS of hours logged into STO PVP)
In RTS games that gives me 12 groups that I can bounce to at the press of my left thumb, while my fingers on the left hand roam the entire keyboard and fire off hotkeys. No clicking and dragging, no bouncing up to the number row, just hit, hotkey, click target move on.
All a Macro Ban is going to do, or some Penalty for using macros that scrub masters of the underhive desire, is widen the gap even further between my hardware and their own.
I have a huge advantage over people with cheap hardware. For that matter in MMOs, I have a huge advantage over those who are solely dependent on macro sequences to remain competitive, as I can change sequences on the fly, with dramatically more flexibility, providing my muscle memory is up to the task. (and If I'm serious about being competitive it will be) in RIFT, my damage output, and survival rate, didn't change one bit, macros vs full manual when I was at my best. I was also, often top damage dealt, in the dmg charts.
Someone that has to take their hands off the mouse, or leave WASD, are going to be at a disadvantage, and a pretty stark one at that, vs someone with Macros, or a mouse like mine.
MWO, that is also the case due to having multiple firing keys, along with nearly every other function on my right thumb's disposal. I can manage more weapon groups, more quickly, steadily and precisely than the average user is going to. I don't have to stop aiming, firing, or moving in order to use any weapon group at my disposal or consumables, or switching ecm modes.
And you think taking macros away from people who might not necessarily have the same hardware at their disposal would be good for gameplay?
I would have thought that point would be readily apparent.
As far as "I spend more on gaming equipment than you!" goes... congratulations, you probably did. I'd rather spend the money on my sports cars, and good booze. Also FYI I don't use macros in this game.
I only experimented with them in RIFT to see if I'd like the results. ...and even then, I still wound up with 12 different macro groups before I scrapped em, for manual control.
Edited by Mavairo, 09 June 2016 - 01:07 PM.