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[Vlasterx]

Oh boy, how wrong I was!

I was desperate with this Dragon, nothing seemed to work. I have tried many builds and in the end I told myself - hell, lets try it with strongest XL engine.

I took everything out, put on 3 ER large lasers, strongest XL, maximum armor, rest double heat sinks and now this heavy feels like a scout. Played 3 games with it, every match was over 500 damage.

This one was the first one.








Luckily, I have recorded it and will upload it to YouTube tomorrow. I'm glad I didn't sold it because it now has a chance to become my favorite mech

Edited by Vlasterx, 08 June 2016 - 09:57 PM.

[Mazzyplz]

dragon is great. i am glad you found a good build for your hero.
i was in a similar situation finding good builds for 5n and 3c. at least as good as the 1n and after a long time i found em

[Vlasterx]

Can you leave those builds here, I would like to try them out.

[Mazzyplz]

sure, i have to make the smurfy's builds a little bit later when i get back, but you can see the basic loadout when i recorded gameplay

[Mazzyplz]

okay here we go



this guy has a standard engine 295. and it is suprisingly very very tough. i think it is made out of captain america shields.
the loadout isn't anything very powerful, but it's cool enough to alpha and move out every time and it's a very good hit and run mech to hit slower mechs.
at the same time, the LPL+Medlas arm naturally syncs. and it's incredible to trace light mechs and leg them. the torso range on 5n is also great (unlike 3c torso twist range). so you can really leg most light mechs so long as they shoot lasers. obviously stay away from srm jenners. and dont fight more than 1 mech at a time.

only 2 weapon groups here:
-lasers left hand jab.
-shotgun right hand cross.

most of the time hit a sidetorso with everything and move out. if they are not paying attention do it twice and move out. it works!
as far as modules. the basic one is the srm4 cooldown so it syncs up with lbx10.


edit:
if you got the money and want to do it you can also get lpl cooldown and medlas cooldown.
Or- you got the option to go for srm4 range and seismic sensor in your mastery slot. (or laser range instead of seismic)
-radar deprivation on the standard mech module is what i run

PS: one ton of ammo may seem like very little but it's good enough. remember you want to do driveby alphas to sidetorsos. or leg light mechs with your flexible arm - there's enough srm and lbx ammo for several driveby alphas and if you lose your sidetorsos you still got at least a srm4 as zombie.


build2:

pretty self explanatory. don't worry about the appendage arm. just let it die whatever. (EDIT: or trade one heatsink for one ton of armor. i always go for the firepower!)

this mech has a xl315 engine so it moves quite fast and it needs it too. it shares the same vulnerability as the 1n meta-dakka dragon. but it's also very good in it's own right because the laser hardpoints are mounted pretty high up and all to the left. so you can peek left (which feels weird! but you get used to it... i think this mech might be perfect for a leftie)

most importantly though, you can shoot 4 LL like if it were a machinegun. burst fire pewpewpewpew and hide to cool then go again.
if you are caught up close or need to focus a component down without shutting down fire 2 at a time. always.

anyways just 1 weapon group here on chainfire i go clickclickclickclick!!!!!!
but i have an emergency weapon group 6 with just the arm lasers in case i have to shoot further down or up.

i have killed countless large laser stalkers with this 4 large laser dragon. i am just way faster and dont stand and trade with them. i go boom! machinegun laser to their sidetorso and they are already worried or running. rinse and repeat.

since this mech is very fragile but it can deliver bombs you should play this like a u-boat submarine. float to the surface just with the bare minimum of the mech, let the torpedoes loose and get outta there. don't bother seeing how much dmg you have done, just apply more of the same if in doubt

as far as modules, large laser range module, large laser cooldown module. radar deprivation.

the funniest thing about chain firing like this is the enemy thinks: oh ok i can tank a large laser. oh ok it was 2 large laser... what? he kept firing now i'm getting hit with 3LL and then they realize the horrible truth. 4 LL burning their CT and dissapearing. by the second time you do it it goes from 36 damage to 72 damage. and by the third to 108. any mech you're shooting by that point is already a dead mech walking you can just run away and let someone else kill it to get the kill most dmg dealt bonus

this mech is best when there is an urban scenario or cover... not a great open ground mech and not awesome against light mechs. but such is the truth of piloting a dragon. you may want to use a UAV as consumable for when light mechs are near you. the UAV will have an effect to drive them back even before anyone shoots at them


TL:DR -

lbx standard engine build is a driveby support mech, 4 large laser dragon is a peeking style of mech, peek to the left or up and down, chain fire the LL as fast as you possibly can and twist away while you backpedal. if in need to supress fire shoot 2 laser at a time, 1, 2 - 1.5 second stop - 3, 4. and back to 1,2 every 1.5 sec

tricky part of mech1 is never being alone so look at the minimap. also seismic might help if u cant run it without it. you are more durable than you think just keep movin and keep swingin like joe frazier. in most cases disarming the sidetorso or leggin the mech will be more beneficial. but if you are after intimidating a mech into finding cover you can shoot their ct

mech2 playstyle took some practice to get down the rhythms to shoot. how fast to do the four-shot and the 3-1 and 2-2 rhythm (and also 1-1-1-1 depending on circumstance). remember to use uav if light mechs come close. if they are already 2 close uav wont save ya. shoot their legs with 2 LL at a time and pray (assuming you can't call a friend on comms). as usual with a xl engine it's more risky than the other mech but it's also more aggressive

Edited by Mazzyplz, 09 June 2016 - 12:14 AM.

[Vlasterx]

Great! Thanks man, I will now buy 2 more dragons and finally master this Fang.

This is match from yesterday. We had one guy constantly talking over voip, it was great fun

[Mazzyplz]

nice sniper build and it goes fast too!!

lool that voice comm.
i cant decide whether grazer is a no nonsense kinda guy or just the opposite

[Vlasterx]

He was great and he really helped team to shape up and fight where it's needed. Can't wait to play with him again

About this build, I also placed ERLL cooldown and range modules. Combined with quirks Fang already has, this build really works fine. Only problem with XL is that Fang can't brawl, but from my experience it was the same with standard engine.

[Davy J0nes]

in case this was missed.

http://mwomercs.com/...modern-dragons/

and try out 3 lpls with a small engine in that fang

[Steinkrieg]

Guys, this mech is HEAVILY quirked for the AC10. So, I run this build - FANG with the LLAS and the AC10 cooldown modules. You're getting a CD of 1.575 seconds on the AC10 and a CD of 2.98 seconds on the LLAS. The also have the same optimal max damage range of 450m, which allows you to skirmish on the outside of the brawl quite easily, constantly firing since you will likely never have any heat issues. If you want to go faster, toss an XL 320 in there and either max out your armor or add another ton of ammo or a MLAS in the torso.

[Vlasterx]

Steinkrieg, on 14 June 2016 - 09:17 AM, said:

Guys, this mech is HEAVILY quirked for the AC10. So, I run this build - FANG with the LLAS and the AC10 cooldown modules. You're getting a CD of 1.575 seconds on the AC10 and a CD of 2.98 seconds on the LLAS. The also have the same optimal max damage range of 450m, which allows you to skirmish on the outside of the brawl quite easily, constantly firing since you will likely never have any heat issues. If you want to go faster, toss an XL 320 in there and either max out your armor or add another ton of ammo or a MLAS in the torso.

I used to carry AC10, but because of right arm size it tends to blow up frequently. With 3 LL's on one side you can use that large arm as a shield.

[Nightshade24]

All mechs in MW: O can be the most leathal killing machines in MW: O, It just depends on the MechWarrior and what he seems fit for what will be an extension of the body.

Some of the mechs I hated the most starting it up, Timberwolf C, Stalker (my first assault mech:- the mechss before this in order of purchase was Ravens, Spiders, Catapults, this was so slow...), and a battlemaster, all mechs I have had struggled to break 100 damage but now hit 900's quite often.

I always wanted to get into the dragons but I fell in love with the MW4 version: I want a gauss rifle on 1 arm and an AC 2 on the other... however I am still tempted to get it every so and so. These builds look good.

[Steinkrieg]

Vlasterx, on 17 June 2016 - 02:51 AM, said:

I used to carry AC10, but because of right arm size it tends to blow up frequently. With 3 LL's on one side you can use that large arm as a shield.

That can be true if you get a little too aggressive or hung out to dry. I haven't had much problem with it after I got used to the mech, but that's because I've learned to play the Fang like a coward instead of a hero. Not saying you should play it any other way than what you are comfortable with. Regardless, a shield side is a good strategy, and having the module slot room to put both the range and cooldown modules on there is a plus.

I also shied away from the 3 LLAS build on the Fang because I used it on the Flame for a while and wanted to try something different.

[Zombie Gandhi]

I love returning to a mech and finding a build that suddenly makes it spring to life. Is a pretty good feeling, and puts a little extra life back into the game.

[Alienized]

had this just a few days ago. already had a -1c (the only dragon i kept) with gauss and 2 er large lasers but wanted do do my old school loadout i used pre quirkening.... i chased stormcrows with it
so i bought a second -1c and mad ethe old loadout for it. it ran pretty hot after all so i went for a XL300 instead of a XL335.
full armor.
1 lbx10 with 4 tons of ammo
4 mlas
1 srm6 with one ton of ammo

still runs hot but witht he quirks its still working

Edited by Alienized, 17 June 2016 - 12:21 PM.

[Vlasterx]

@Alienized - awesome result! Too bad you didn't record that match, I would have liked seeing it.

Here is one of mine, after I have elited Fang.



I don't have the patience to master it. I am terrible with other Dragon variants.

[Alienized]

Vlasterx, on 19 June 2016 - 06:07 AM, said:

@Alienized - awesome result! Too bad you didn't record that match, I would have liked seeing it.

I don't have the patience to master it. I am terrible with other Dragon variants.

i barely record stuff, i propably should tho i gain my best results with the absolute worst mechs somehow *facepalm*
for example, before the QKD hat its uber laser quirks it had PPC quirks...
as we all know, PPC's we're even more underhive than the underhive was already under the hive.

so, ppc's alone were bad. 2 ppc's in a 60 ton is already awfully hot and has minimum range. what to do then....
well yes, of course! dont give a damn about heat!
threw out all jump jets, xl 300, 2 ppc, 4 med lasers and 1 srm4 + artemis.
because screw all the one click meta boates, full troll ftw.


just like that. glorious build.

[Fang01]

I like it with xl355, 2xLpl, mpl, and an srm6 with a ton of ammo.

Skip to 2:00, I was afk at match start handling an issue for one of my soldiers and forgot to trim the deadtime out before I put it up

Edited by Fang01, 26 June 2016 - 02:52 PM.