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[Hemholtz]

Dunno about the people complaining about the hardpoint prioritizations...

I kinda like the idea of running around with dual double barrel pistols.

[Aethermech]

Hemholtz, on 16 June 2016 - 02:28 AM, said:

Dunno about the people complaining about the hardpoint prioritizations...

I kinda like the idea of running around with dual double barrel pistols.

People are complaining about the fact that the 3rd Energy point is located on the back of the vambrace for the forearm, instead of it being the 1st location. the location is a little block that pops up the size of an IS laser dot. you can only kinda see it on the screenshots due to the camo. so what happens currently is that you fill the gun with energy first then you have a little blocky thing on the side, unless you're using one of the 2 that have 3 energy points in the arms in which case the point is mute. I can get wanting the aesthicts to be as good as possible and man this thing looks great, but overall until we see how easy it is to strip off the arms it might just be a valid point or it might mean nothing at all.

[Vashramire]

We finally get a mech that put the laser mounts on top of the arm and people still find a way to complain. People must be in love with shooting dirt.

[Drollzy]

Taste my auto cannons

[Dawnstealer]

Put the LAZORS on top of the shoulder thingies. Actually, just make them float 20m over the mech. Thanks.

[Chroma-Matic]

Why couldn't they just stick with the concept art and use the long single pistol look for the first laser mount? The way they did it for the actual game model just looks silly as hell...

[jss78]

Dawnstealer, on 16 June 2016 - 05:21 AM, said:

Put the LAZORS on top of the shoulder thingies. Actually, just make them float 20m over the mech. Thanks.:

LOL. The sad truth is, nothing short of this would probably make the "DOA" crowd happy.

[Stuffer]

Yeah, in my opinion, I'd like to see the hardpoint prioritization match up with the concept artwork. At the very least on the variants with only 2 energy hardpoints in the right arm. At least then, you could have some variants which use the single pistol and others which use the double. Again, this is just my opinion, but I don't think this would drastically affect how this mech plays. The hardpoints are already mounted lower (being mounted on the arms) and the difference between the arm and pistol is rather small.

I've tweeted Russ again to ask him about such a compromise.

Edited by Stuffer, 16 June 2016 - 06:19 AM.

[Twilight Fenrir]

Aethermech, on 16 June 2016 - 02:50 AM, said:

People are complaining about the fact that the 3rd Energy point is located on the back of the vambrace for the forearm, instead of it being the 1st location. the location is a little block that pops up the size of an IS laser dot. you can only kinda see it on the screenshots due to the camo. so what happens currently is that you fill the gun with energy first then you have a little blocky thing on the side, unless you're using one of the 2 that have 3 energy points in the arms in which case the point is mute. I can get wanting the aesthicts to be as good as possible and man this thing looks great, but overall until we see how easy it is to strip off the arms it might just be a valid point or it might mean nothing at all.

If the Cauldron Born has to have arms the size of most mech's torso, even when only using the ballistic slot, the Phoenix Hawk will survive a little laser bump

[Dawnstealer]

Am I the only one that likes the double barreled pistol? I think it looks cool. You guys just don't like pirates, that's what this is.

Piratists.

ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!

[Malleus011]

The model looks really nice.

Wish they'd either populate the vambrace hardpoint first, or remove the bulge model entirely on Phoenix Hawks which lack 3E hardpoints in their arm(s).

[Stuffer]

I don't mind the double pistol at all, actually. I'd just like to be able to use the vambrace on variants with only 2 E hardpoints in the arm.

[jss78]

I for one am grateful for this thread teaching me the word "vambrace".

I can think of builds where the current system of placing lasers does exactly what I want. For example my PXH-1 will get a double-barrel 2xERLL gun, and an MPL in the other arm's vambrace, exactly like I want it. But then my PXH-3S I'd like a single-barrel LPL gun, and ML's in both arms' vambraces, and that's not possible now. I guess so long as the lasers are automatically placed, someone doesn't get quite what he wants.

[Stuffer]

jss78, on 16 June 2016 - 10:42 AM, said:

I for one am grateful for this thread teaching me the word "vambrace".

I can think of builds where the current system of placing lasers does exactly what I want. For example my PXH-1 will get a double-barrel 2xERLL gun, and an MPL in the other arm's vambrace, exactly like I want it. But then my PXH-3S I'd like a single-barrel LPL gun, and ML's in both arms' vambraces, and that's not possible now. I guess so long as the lasers are automatically placed, someone doesn't get quite what he wants.

Perfectly said! I can't wait for next week so I can finally hop into this beauty.

[jss78]

Analog Botanist, on 16 June 2016 - 11:16 AM, said:

Maybe I'm a little behind on this, but do PPC quirks now apply to ER models? I was wondering after looking at the 1B variant.

In all cases that I'm aware of, they do apply to ER-PPC's too. The "PPC" here means PPC in a broad sense, a weapon group which includes PPC's and ER-PPC's.

[TercieI]

What rubbish.

Guys who've only driven over quirked BJs are going to be in for a rude awakening when they're faced with a real low-quirk, low-mount 45-ton bag of mediocrity. Many of these variants may actually be inferior to the better (1R/1AA) VNDs.

[Dawnstealer]

Quirks are in - looks like the focus is on agility. Cool.

[C E Dwyer]

The model looks pretty good, the square laser mounts on a PHX just suck monkies, and having an empty space just makes them look worse.

Oh well 4 days to decide if I cancel my ultimate pack or not

[C E Dwyer]

Dawnstealer, on 16 June 2016 - 07:24 AM, said:

Am I the only one that likes the double barreled pistol? I think it looks cool. You guys just don't like pirates, that's what this is.

Piratists.

ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!

I think you might be yes

[Aylek]

LOL @ quirks. Dead on arrival? So glad I cancelled my preorder long ago.