30 replies to this topic

[Khobai]

We should be able to zoom the minimap in and out.

That way we get the best of both a zoomed out minimap and a zoomed in minimap as the situation dictates.

[Yellonet]

Meh. I don't see it as necessary, most players will do fine with it zoomed out.

[El Bandito]

Russ said zoom function will come later. Which likely means many months later.

[Khobai]

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Meh. I don't see it as necessary, most players will do fine with it zoomed out.

thats because youre a potato that doesnt use seismic sensor.

for those of us that do use seismic sensor we need a zoomed in minimap

[Pariah Devalis]

I'd like to see it as a toggle, with a caveat. By default, it is the zoomed out mapwide map with all its drawbacks and advantages. Then, with the push of a button, the map should zoom in. However, it should zoom in to around 400 meters, as opposed to the current radar range. You'd lose out on the current range of minimap area coverage, killing your long range positional detail data, but your close range "fine" data would be improved.

With both radar zoom levels, you give up something for either, and never have as good an overall picture as we do now. Makes for a reason to toggle radar zoom levels on the fly. Otherwise, there'd be no reason not to use the radar "zoom level" we have currently. Also, a "fixed to north" and "rotate with mech" map option would be appreciated.

[Thorn Hallis]

Indeed we do. Until then though, the new minimap should be optional.

[MrJeffers]

El Bandito, on 20 June 2016 - 09:23 AM, said:

Russ said zoom function will come later. Which likely means many months later.

No, he said they *might* look at adding it later. Big difference. And its players saying things like this that leads to unrealistic player expectations.

Although I agree, the zoom function should have been a base design feature, there is no plan to add one.

Go back and listen to the town hall again:
http://mwomercs.com/...hive-on-youtube
@ the ~42:40 mark is the discussion about the mini-map.

Edited by MrJeffers, 20 June 2016 - 09:31 AM.

[Yellonet]

Khobai, on 20 June 2016 - 09:24 AM, said:

thats because youre a potato that doesnt use seismic sensor.

for those of us that do use seismic sensor we need a zoomed in minimap

I almost always use the seismic sensor. But maybe I'm not so reliant on crutches as some.

[Pariah Devalis]

Yellonet, on 20 June 2016 - 09:35 AM, said:

I almost always use the seismic sensor. But maybe I'm not so reliant on crutches as some.

[Moldur]

People talk about seismic like a junkie that needs it just to get by.

Maybe I am glad that the minimap is going to suck.

[Mystere]

Khobai, on 20 June 2016 - 09:21 AM, said:

We should be able to zoom the minimap in and out.

That way we get the best of both a zoomed out minimap and a zoomed in minimap as the situation dictates.

I'd rather they first put the mini-map on one of those useless cockpit monitors and on a player's secondary display device (e.g. second monitor, iPad, etc.). Then put variable zoom in them.

Edited by Mystere, 20 June 2016 - 11:08 AM.

[Quicksilver Aberration]

Moldur, on 20 June 2016 - 11:00 AM, said:

People talk about seismic like a junkie that needs it just to get by.

Maybe rather than go about a round-about way of nerfing seismic, they actually just nerf seismic, crazy suggestion, I know.

Edited by Quicksilver Kalasa, 20 June 2016 - 11:06 AM.

[wanderer]

Sure it should zoom. Russ even said it'll have zoom. Later.

Probably some multiple of 30 days later. Until then, please enjoy your new minimap that tells you even less than before and renders your seismic module useless.

[Yellonet]

Quicksilver Kalasa, on 20 June 2016 - 11:06 AM, said:

Maybe rather than go about a round-about way of nerfing seismic, they actually just nerf seismic, crazy suggestion, I know.

The change to the minimap has nothing to do with seismic

[Quicksilver Aberration]

Yellonet, on 20 June 2016 - 11:16 AM, said:

The change to the minimap has nothing to do with seismic

Then I guess they should re-think implementing a feature that severely limits the usability of another until the full functionality is available, or re-think their implementation.

Edited by Quicksilver Kalasa, 20 June 2016 - 11:27 AM.

[Baba Yogi]

To fit entire map into that small area will mean resolution will be verylow especially on very large maps. You wont understand what the information means, especially if the map wont change direction according to your PoV. This is one of the worst decisions they've ever made over the last 4 years.

Edited by Lordhammer, 20 June 2016 - 11:43 AM.

[Mechteric]

If they were smart they'd release the new minimap zoomed in around to where it is zoomed now, then later introduce ability to zoom in/out as desired.

[MauttyKoray]

Khobai, on 20 June 2016 - 09:21 AM, said:

We should be able to zoom the minimap in and out.

That way we get the best of both a zoomed out minimap and a zoomed in minimap as the situation dictates.

Was addressed, Russ admitted it will probably happen (why they didn't hold off on it idk...) but coming from an understanding of the dev's side, once that patch goes into QA and is close to release its not a great idea to mess with it unless its a bug fix because it could potentially cause more issues.

Mystere, on 20 June 2016 - 11:05 AM, said:

I'd rather they first put the mini-map on one of those useless cockpit monitors and on a player's secondary display device (e.g. second monitor, iPad, etc.). Then put variable zoom in them.

Cockpit monitor? No thanks, that sounds horrible and the idea is that its popping up as a helmet UI or something, same as all the other stuff on your HUD.

A second screen though? I'd like that, I have a smaller one I'd mount above my primary even as a tertiary monitor for a minimap.

[Mister Blastman]

El Bandito, on 20 June 2016 - 09:23 AM, said:

Russ said zoom function will come later. Which likely means many months later.

We still don't have collisions and they said that would be many months later...

[Quicksilver Aberration]

MauttyKoray, on 20 June 2016 - 04:10 PM, said:

Was addressed, Russ admitted it will probably happen (why they didn't hold off on it idk...) but coming from an understanding of the dev's side, once that patch goes into QA and is close to release its not a great idea to mess with it unless its a bug fix because it could potentially cause more issues.

What, that makes no sense, if something may potentially be bad for the user experience, it can and should be held off from deployment, there should always be steps to backout changes for any deployment. Not to mention if your QA isn't able to reject changes, your QA isn't going to be very good or useful.

Edited by Quicksilver Kalasa, 20 June 2016 - 04:31 PM.