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[shotokan5]

For years I played with a Thrustmaster. It lasted some time . Best 34.oo US you will ever spend. Then I went X52 great stick. Get the long term coverage. It breaks every time you gave it a wrong look. I went through 4 in a year and a half. Never spent a time after first one. If the smoke begins to poor out in the middle of a drop don't worry as long as garanttes are purchased for at least 2 to 3 years. If this game needs more buttons than the thrustmaster have then I would get the X52 or something new and expensive DOH.

[MechaDraco]

I pan to get the Artemis when it comes out, IF, i can afford it.

[Harabeck]

River McCain, on 16 July 2012 - 12:30 PM, said:

Ok right I understand how controls work with a mouse and keyboard but you stated that I would not need twist on my joystick to control torso, that is not a true statement.

Oh, that's not what I meant. A few posters seemed to say that the joystick twist would be needed, and this was why they wanted a joystick over a mouse.

Edited by Harabeck, 16 July 2012 - 12:33 PM.

[Terror Teddy]

MechaDraco, on 16 July 2012 - 12:31 PM, said:

I pan to get the Artemis when it comes out, IF, i can afford it.

Im sorry but that thing is butt ugly.

Give me at least a proper throttle handle on the left side with plenty of buttons on both. That little thumb switch for throttle looks HORRIBLE. Not to mention a pair of rudder flaps on the throttle for turning my mech.

Edited by Terror Teddy, 16 July 2012 - 12:35 PM.

[JessterC]

Harabeck, on 16 July 2012 - 12:29 PM, said:

I fail to see how this is functionally different than chasing the target with a joystick.

think about it this way... use a pencil and write your name... one option allows you to see what you are writing and is direct tactile input... the other you have to move your pencil to where you want the line to go, and wait for the line to catch up before you can move to the next portion of the line... maybe you have no issue with "dead time" and you can simply wait for your reticule to catch up, I would shout out of frustration and want to punch kittens.

[Captain Fabulous]

shotokan5, on 16 July 2012 - 12:31 PM, said:

For years I played with a Thrustmaster. It lasted some time . Best 34.oo US you will ever spend. Then I went X52 great stick. Get the long term coverage. It breaks every time you gave it a wrong look. I went through 4 in a year and a half. Never spent a time after first one. If the smoke begins to poor out in the middle of a drop don't worry as long as garanttes are purchased for at least 2 to 3 years. If this game needs more buttons than the thrustmaster have then I would get the X52 or something new and expensive DOH.

I love the x52, but I went with its baby brother (Cyborg-X) for cost purposes. It was only 28 dollars or something like that and I have had zero problems with it.

Edited by Captain Fabulous, 16 July 2012 - 12:39 PM.

[Fastred]

Riffleman, on 16 July 2012 - 11:38 AM, said:

Mabye next to your win/loss ratio they should have a little picture of a mouse or joystick, so when people go to laugh at your score, they can instead say "oh hey well thats not too bad for handicapping yourself with a joystick"

Joysticks.

Mechwarrior hard mode.

I hear people say this but there is no way that you can get the smooth and fluid motion you get out of a fast moving light mech with 3D joystick using a keyboard when you actually fight on the move. Yes if your hopping straight up and down or playing stationary sniper you may see and advantage and I only met one pilot who impressed me sniping.

However when you are weaving through an enemy lance in your Raven at 100+ kph, steering aiming and evading all at the same time come tell me about the superiority of mouse and keyboard again.

There are tons of people that want to attribute the survival skills of the competitive light mech pilots to lag but the truth of the matter is that most light mech pilots just did not survive and of the pilots that did well in the light chassis I can't recall one that used mouse and keyboard.

Edited by Fastred, 16 July 2012 - 12:37 PM.

[Stray Ion]

Umm I don't know maybe the mentioning of the Artemis which is pictured above. When I bought MW3 it came bundled with a MS sidewinder FF pro.

As for joysticks making the game harder, let me know when they rip out the yoke or joystick out of aircraft and replace it with a mouse. They are in there for a reason.

[MechaDraco]

Terror Teddy, on 16 July 2012 - 12:33 PM, said:

Im sorry but that thing is butt ugly.

Give me at least a proper throttle handle on the left side with plenty of buttons on both. That little thumb switch for throttle looks HORRIBLE.

Thats not even the finished model, they are still in the design phase for the thing so I dont know what it will look like when it's done, I imagine it will have a bigger throttle I think ive even seen a different design with a bigger one.

Edited by MechaDraco, 16 July 2012 - 12:36 PM.

[Bongo TauKat]

MechaDraco, on 16 July 2012 - 12:31 PM, said:

I pan to get the Artemis when it comes out, IF, i can afford it.

I keep asking, is there a throttle on there? It looks like a keypad with a hand rest.

[WarGruf]

Has to be Joystick all the way... It'd be rude not too

[Captain Fabulous]

Bongo TauKat Talasko, on 16 July 2012 - 12:37 PM, said:

I keep asking, is there a throttle on there? It looks like a keypad with a hand rest.

Tiny little slider directly to the left of the screen.

[JessterC]

Bongo TauKat Talasko, on 16 July 2012 - 12:37 PM, said:

I keep asking, is there a throttle on there? It looks like a keypad with a hand rest.

it is the little black thumb slider to the right of the keypad

[MechaDraco]

Bongo TauKat Talasko, on 16 July 2012 - 12:37 PM, said:

I keep asking, is there a throttle on there? It looks like a keypad with a hand rest.

Yes there is a throttle, see the little black orb next to the keypad, thats the throttle

[Brien]

Harabeck, on 16 July 2012 - 12:29 PM, said:

I don't understand. Mouse controls your torso movments, keyboard your overall steering. How does joystick help?



I fail to see how this is functionally different than chasing the target with a joystick.

Having movement most other controls in one place is more convienant than using m/k having to reach all over keyboard for hot keys is just less efficient in mech combat in my opinion

[Cid]

throttle is on the thumb of the left hand, the rather small one.

[Harabeck]

Brien, on 16 July 2012 - 12:39 PM, said:

Having movement most other controls in one place is more convienant than using m/k having to reach all over keyboard for hot keys is just less efficient in mech combat in my opinion

There are more than enough keys in easy reach of WASD. Why would I need to move my hand all over?

[Ownyu]

U think some people don't realize how precise you can move with a analog type joystick. Movement buttons on a keyboard are either full on or off, where as a joystick you go as fast as you want to move.

[Egomane]

Harabeck, on 16 July 2012 - 12:29 PM, said:

I don't understand. Mouse controls your torso movments, keyboard your overall steering. How does joystick help?

It helps in that you get both direction and torso control in the same hand, leaving the other only for throttle control or other tasks. With a dedicated programmable throttle, you have every function you'll ever need in your hands and never have to let go of speed or directional control to access a different function on the keyboard.

Harabeck, on 16 July 2012 - 12:29 PM, said:

I fail to see how this is functionally different than chasing the target with a joystick.

It is different, because a twist on the stick will be directly connected to the torsos movement. there will be no reaction time. There will be no waiting for the torso to match up to were you aim, instead you move the torso faster or slower, into one direction or the other, in a speed depending on how far you twist your stick to either side.
In short: You don't wait, you act and control! It is much less frustrating (my opinion).

[PubstarHero]

I've always prefered to piolt my mech with a real joystick and rudder peddles. Using a mouse just never felt right.