Phoenix Hawk Vs Black Jack -- Which Is The Best 45 Tonner In Your Drop Deck?
#1
Posted 25 June 2016 - 01:34 PM
#2
Posted 25 June 2016 - 01:37 PM
Replace the BJ?
#3
Posted 25 June 2016 - 01:42 PM
#4
Posted 25 June 2016 - 01:48 PM
Don't see too many BJ's in faction play anyway.
#5
Posted 25 June 2016 - 02:17 PM
Gaussfather, on 25 June 2016 - 01:34 PM, said:
I'll agree that what you list are some real good features of the Phoenix Hawk: excellent ability to spread damage, ECM.
The Blackjack however blows the Phoenix Hawk out of the water in terms of firepower, due to the excellent offensive quirks. It also benefits of having broadly similar hardpoints, but in excellent high locations. For CW specifically this means it's Blackjack all the way.
I'm finding the Phoenix Hawk to work out fine in my T2 pug games, but it's a rather different playstyle from a Blackjack, as a mobile and stealthy platform for a couple of long-range guns.
#6
Posted 25 June 2016 - 02:45 PM
#7
Posted 25 June 2016 - 02:47 PM
I keep blasting the little buggers with SPLs and SSRMs and LBX and they don't go down nearly as quickly as I think they "should", if at all.
I wonder if many people have had time to play much in the upsized BJ since last week's patch, especially given the minimap debacle?
Edited by Appogee, 25 June 2016 - 02:48 PM.
#8
Posted 25 June 2016 - 02:58 PM
Better quirks better shape, hard points higher up, the bigger engine size on the PHX does nothing really to compensate as you have to carry less weight in either heat sinks or weapons.
If and only if the PHX's structure quirks were increased by 80% so they were a few points higher than the BJ's then it might be slightly worse a mech, and a possible option for a FW deck, but if your in one of those kinds of units. The DC is still going to want you in a BJ as a 45 ton option.
I like the Phoenix Hawk better than I thought I would, playing it I can almost forget those god awful square laser mounts, but better than the Black Jack not even close
#9
Posted 25 June 2016 - 03:00 PM
#10
Posted 25 June 2016 - 05:04 PM
#11
Posted 25 June 2016 - 06:33 PM
Oh wait...
#12
Posted 25 June 2016 - 07:27 PM
#13
Posted 25 June 2016 - 11:02 PM
Vindicators are so bad, LIKE THE POWER GLOVE
Edited by Juodas Varnas, 25 June 2016 - 11:03 PM.
#14
Posted 25 June 2016 - 11:26 PM
Well...I guess the volume kinda checks out, so it's not a decider there (aside from the BJ needing to expose less to shoot most of his guns)
#15
Posted 26 June 2016 - 01:38 AM
Unless the the phoenix hawk gets some killer quirks it'll always be second fiddle.
#16
Posted 26 June 2016 - 01:40 AM
IdolElite, on 26 June 2016 - 01:38 AM, said:
Unless the the phoenix hawk gets some killer quirks it'll always be second fiddle.
Well, at least there's one thing Phoenix Hawk has going for it against the Blackjack.
Its designation is not "BJ"
#17
Posted 26 June 2016 - 01:46 AM
Arms are easy to blow off on the Phoenix Hawk.
#20
Posted 26 June 2016 - 02:23 AM
Edited by ArmandTulsen, 26 June 2016 - 02:23 AM.
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