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[cazidin]

Greetings Mechwarriors. Russ stated his intention to speak with 8 great House Leaders, maybe including a Kahn or two, but I wonder, will this meeting bring fruit? We'll be waiting several months, most likely, for CW Phase IV and I have to wonder if PGI will even move forward with any of the dramatic changes need.

What do you all think? What do you want to see done for CW Phase IV?

[Khobai]

I wanna see the union dropship gamemode weve been promised for years...

[C E Dwyer]

It depends who they chose, while some will suggest things for the best game experience, some are so pro Clan or I.S, its painfully obvious, so you just ignore everything they say, and chose the middle ground.

If any of those lobbied hard and got a spot they would at best cancel themselves out.

while I think that the only two they currently listen to need replacing as far as game develpment goes, I think that P.G.I must be very careful with whom they chose, or things could actually get worse.

Edited by Cathy, 26 June 2016 - 09:49 AM.

[Tarl Cabot]

Are you in roleplay mode? There are no official House Leaders nor Khans who lead things in PGI universe.

[Alistair Winter]

Oh, nothing much.

Scrap Invasion mode, create a new game mode from scratch. Preferably copying a successful game mode from a bigger, more successful FPS game.

Scrap most of the Invasion mode maps. Replace them with new, open maps that allow maneuvers instead of forcing the attackers through choke points like it's the damn battle of Thermopylae.

Redesign Scout game mode, so it's not just SRM brawling and legging competitions. Create a game mode that requires some actual strategy.

Minor, minor stuff.

Edited by Alistair Winter, 26 June 2016 - 10:52 AM.

[Spheroid]

What will be the ratio of worker, warrior and religious caste in this proposed Grey Council?

Edited by Spheroid, 26 June 2016 - 10:39 AM.

[Bud Crue]

Russ threw that out in passing. I don't think it was even close to an "intention". More like a vague notion. Sort of like "lore", or or "immersive game play", or Solaris.

[cazidin]

Cathy, on 26 June 2016 - 09:45 AM, said:

It depends who they chose, while some will suggest things for the best game experience, some are so pro Clan or I.S, its painfully obvious, so you just ignore everything they say, and chose the middle ground.

If any of those lobbied hard and got a spot they would at best cancel themselves out.

while I think that the only two they currently listen to need replacing as far as game develpment goes, I think that P.G.I must be very careful with whom they chose, or things could actually get worse.

That's something that concerns me. I can see the Great House Leaders coming together, each speaking with Russ with conflicting goals or opinions. This would be true to TT, but wouldn't help the game mode much. PGI is leaving it to the players to vote.

Tarl Cabot, on 26 June 2016 - 10:10 AM, said:

Are you in roleplay mode? There are no official House Leaders nor Khans who lead things in PGI universe.

Hey, people want this game to be closer to TT, right?

Alistair Winter, on 26 June 2016 - 10:23 AM, said:

Oh, nothing much.

Scrap Invasion mode, create a new game mode from scratch. Preferably copying a successful game mode from a bigger, more successful FPS game.

Scrap most of the Invasion mode maps. Replace them with new, open maps that allow maneuvers instead of forcing the attackers through choke point like it's the damn battle of Thermopylae.

Redesign Scout game mode, so it's not just SRM brawling and legging competitions. Create a game mode that requires some actual strategy.

Minor, minor stuff.

Maybe in CW Phase VI?

[Novakaine]

I vote WInter's to the position of Grand Poopaa Supremo Grey Seer.

[Bud Crue]

Suggest y'all go back and listen to the Town Hall. There was no plan, no real intention, no discussion of any system to allow players to vote for representatives, etc. It was a typical instance of Russ trying to not answer a question with any specificity and he threw this whole meet with players thing to redirect the question. That's all. Deep breath everybody.

Edited by Bud Crue, 26 June 2016 - 10:51 AM.

[cazidin]

Bud Crue, on 26 June 2016 - 10:51 AM, said:

Suggest y'all go back and listen to the Town Hall. There was no plan, no real intention, no discussion of any system to allow players to vote for representatives, etc. It was a typical instance of Russ trying to not answer a question with any specificity and he threw this whole meet with players thing to redirect the question. That's all. Deep breath everybody.

"For those asking about the Faction Play round table, I have not forgotten - ETA next few weeks"-Russ Bullock, Twitter.

[Strum Wealh]

Spheroid, on 26 June 2016 - 10:36 AM, said:

What will be the ratio of worker, warrior and religious caste in this proposed Grey Council?

More importantly, do the Anla'Shok become a player-selectable faction?

[Trauglodyte]

cazidin, on 26 June 2016 - 09:31 AM, said:

Greetings Mechwarriors. Russ stated his intention to speak with 8 great House Leaders, maybe including a Kahn or two, but I wonder, will this meeting bring fruit? We'll be waiting several months, most likely, for CW Phase IV and I have to wonder if PGI will even move forward with any of the dramatic changes need.

What do you all think? What do you want to see done for CW Phase IV?

I am become Gray. I stand between the candle and the star... (B5 quote, btw)

On a more serious note, and I'm not one of the supremo types that they'd want to talk to, but these are my feelings on the matter:

• Add a tier 6 and normalize the amount of XP needed to gain a new tier
  
• Change the PSR so that you have just as much a chance to gain as you do to lose; currently, you can gain 3 different ways but lose only 2
  
• Cordon off tiers 6-4 and put them in the Quick Play sand box so that these players can enjoy themselves and learn the game
  
• Change Faction Warfare to be Inner Sphere vs. Clan
  
• Have the tiers 3-1 play be 100% Faction Warfare
  
• Make it so that you can only take a planet on the weekend; you can allow a 24-7 removal of the planet's defenses but, on the weekend, you open the planet up to 4-6 different maps with each containing a separate "must take" objective and then have the entire community available to participate by way of an All Out War mode where every player in the game can load up 4 mechs and drop into the game (think of this, if you will, as MW:O's version of the original vanilla WoW Alterac Valley)
  
• House vs. House can still be played via tier 3-1 quick play 8v8; taking another house's planet wouldn't be possible but you could take a "node" on each planet, with each planet having a set amount, thus bringing in more gold/XP/MC to the house players that have more planetary nodes (think of this as MW:O's version of Dark Age of Camelot realm vs. realm combat)
  
• Add some different game plays for FW that would include things like Destruction of a Convoy, Mech Factory Assault, etc. so that there is something similar to Scouting for the heavier mech groups
  
• Build out separate maps for individual planets - there absolutely CANNOT be 10 planets that all look like Grim Plexus, Caustic Valley, Alpine Peaks, and Forrest Colony
  
• Finally, make it so that there are 6 "seasons" per year with each season being 2 months long. This keeps the game moving.

All in all, I love the idea of Faction Warfare but I think that PGI needs to understand that Quick Play is largely going to destroy the game if that is all that there is to do. People aren't playing MW:O because there isn't anything to gain from playing it. In other words, there is no immersion factor. When I drop into a Quick Play match and I'm on Terra Therma, I have nothing to fight for other than the want of a win. There isn't anything on that planet that makes me think, "Hey, this is important". I have no benefit in winning or losing the game, other than time.

Make me WANT to play and give me something for which to fight. If you do that, you'll have people falling over themselves to play this game. Fail to do so and it will wither on the vine.

Edited by Trauglodyte, 26 June 2016 - 12:15 PM.

[Mystere]

Strum Wealh, on 26 June 2016 - 11:03 AM, said:

More importantly, do the Anla'Shok become a player-selectable faction?

I still have my chest insignia just in case I get the call. Do you?

[Bud Crue]

cazidin, on 26 June 2016 - 11:03 AM, said:

"For those asking about the Faction Play round table, I have not forgotten - ETA next few weeks"-Russ Bullock, Twitter.

Yeah, he has not forgotten. How's Solaris coming? What did he say two months ago? It was coming soon. How long has he been saying that? For years. On the 17th it was one hesitation after another, and now its hung up because we can't figure out to do do replays?! Yet he mentions a round table possibility, again coming soon, and some of you are acting like he made a promise. Either way, there was no mention of "voting" no mention of how, or who, or to what end. This is just a distraction.

Edited by Bud Crue, 26 June 2016 - 12:18 PM.

[Coolant]

These so-called "leaders" don't speak for me. I haven't been approached about what I think. No one contacted me to find out my views. Why should they have some secret meeting with PGI about game development? They should make their voice heard just like everyone else by posting on the forums or using Twitter like the rest of us. Just like the rest of us who support the game just as much as "they" do.

How do any of us "lesser" beings know what is discussed in these top secret meetings? Will these "VIPs" ask the community what should be discussed before this meeting? Will there be minutes posted of exactly what is said? Will there be any transparency or the community doesn't have the security clearance?

[Antares102]

Unit leaders are not necessarily the players who know how to improve the game.
That would be other players.
It's just a new version of asking "Russ" what should be implemented next.

Edited by Antares102, 26 June 2016 - 12:24 PM.

[Bud Crue]

Another thing...why would he bother speaking to "the great house leaders". As CW currently works, the great houses are almost incidental to the game. Someone recently posted numbers that something like 65% of the tiny population still playing -plays as mercs. Wouldn't it make a lot more sense to talk to those folks? Or is he still pretending that "faction play" has something to do with factions (other than where the fights take place)?

[Red Shrike]

Spheroid, on 26 June 2016 - 10:36 AM, said:

What will be the ratio of worker, warrior and religious caste in this proposed Grey Council?

You, I like you.

[Moldur]

I don't think anyone cares enough about current FP to have organized representatives that would fulfill the foreseen roles.