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[zudukai]

i suggest the HBK 2c level of clan "battlemchs" and the kodiak for a nice FW dropdeck of 1xKDK 3xHBK2c @250 / 260 or 1xKDK, 2xH2c, 1xJ2c @235 / 260t


both of those mechs are solid preforming mechs, even the J2c since it can carry so much firepower at 130kph+ but the 2c's have no armor quirks so they die far quicker then the inner sphere counterparts pound for pound, but they make up for that with way more firepower.

you can also still buy any of the wave packages in single mech packs too, but it's more cost effective to get the bundles, except for wave 1, since that pack is twice as expensive.

if you started thinking twin kodiaks in faction play is a good idea, then two 30t arctic cheetah's are the ideal companion.


any way you decide you can't really go wrong with the heavy mastery pack, Ebon jag pack or the origin 2c pack up to the hunchback at $40, but for $20 bucks, the warhammer is a better deal, and the kodiak is a great deal, if you know what your playstyle is, you might also want to consider the new clan mechs that are coming out in a month or two's time, since they are all in the $20 price bracket.


and IMO the kodiak Hero aka Sprint bear, is a pretty solid mech and can brawl very well, getting additional survivability from clan MASC (90kph for 7-9 seconds, twist speed enhancements)

[invernomuto]

If you like Clan and if you are willing to spend 90$ in the game, go for the Wave III pack. Otherwise, I agree with the suggestion of the Marauder, Warhammer and Kodiak pack. I have all three with the heroes and they're solid mechs that will give you lot of fun. I love the Kodiak (except the KDK-1). Warhammer is by far my favorite chassis. Marauder is also very, very good.

Edited by invernomuto, 28 June 2016 - 03:21 AM.

[Rhavin]

The real advantage to clan omni mechs is the ability to swap pods out to add weapon hardpoints, so if you find a configuration that works for you generally you can run it on Every variant you own. You can't change much else though as each omnipod has locked equipment, so you won't be upgrading your armor or structure type to gain weight, or removing adding jumpjets. Some pods have locked heatsinks you can't remove , but you can add heatsinks if you want. Clan XL engines are also locked on omnimechs, but they are smaller in that they have less critical slots so they can survive the loss of a side torso without exploding you. All of these things are supposed to be balanced by the power of clan weapons, which generally have greater range and less weight.

Timberwolf, 75 ton heavy. It's a standard by which all other heavy mechs are measured still. Speed, firepower, armor, omnipod variety it has it all. The ebon jaguar is simular, but it isn't a replacement for the trusty TW. Even the upcoming Night Gyr won't replace it.

Hellbringer, at 65 tons, is arguably tied for 2nd with the ebon jaguar as clan heavys go. Designed to be an omni mech that would improve upon and replace the warhammer, they created a beast. It's ECM capable, and most people run it as a laser boat, but there are other options that are as effective. Mech is just a pleasure to drive, and my prime variant has earned me insane amounts of cbills and exp.

Stormcrow 55 ton medium , it's hit boxes and movement profile make this medium seem to absorb damage. Combined with its great speed and ability to boat loads of Streak SRMS people began making the streakcrow, which as implied uses nothing but streak missles to turn you into a wreck. Like the timberwolf and ebon jaguar there is quite a bit of variety in its omnipods, so you are capable of building so much more than a missle boat.

The IIC mech line is also interesting, basically they work as their respective innersphere counterparts do, only with clan tech, thjs gives them more range and firepower, and extra perks like jumpjets and often eXtra hardpoints. However with no quirks they are not as durable, yet the Hunchbacks and Jenners are still great mechs. While I enjoy the highlanders and orions and perform well enough in them many people don't care for them as there are so many "better options" out there for clan heavys and assaults.

Keep in mind that Few mechs are actually terrible, and even then theres always that one pilot that takes a terrible mech and makes it shine by playing to its strengths or doing somthing off the wall with it.

[Horse Pryde]

I got the Kodiak pack and have looked hard at the mastery packs but they are only IS. My next purchase will likely be a Griffin Mastery pack, Atlas Mastery pack, or a Warhammer bundle with hero. Its really up to you where and how you spend as your play style would determine what you will enjoy the most. What I want to buy might not fit how you play.

[zudukai]

Horse Pryde, on 29 June 2016 - 07:26 AM, said:

I got the Kodiak pack and have looked hard at the mastery packs but they are only IS. My next purchase will likely be a Griffin Mastery pack, Atlas Mastery pack, or a Warhammer bundle with hero. Its really up to you where and how you spend as your play style would determine what you will enjoy the most. What I want to buy might not fit how you play.

those packs don't exist anymore, currently every pack gives you both IS and Clan mechs, however unlike the invasion/ resistance packs where you get multiple mechs, you only get one mech of each chassis from steam, both with a C-bill bonus like a hero mech.

http://store.steampo...com/dlc/342200/

[Rhavin]

They do still exist, just not on steam , where they were never found in the first place.

https://mwomercs.com/store/gifts

Click on mastery packs. It shows all that are available.

[Besh]

Soo...thanks again to all of you for the ideas/suggestions/discussion . After a bit of pondering, I have decided to

• get the Kodiak Basic Pack including Spirit Bear
  
• start up experiencing Warhammers and Marauders buying Chassis with CBills ( I rly have a lot of +CBills Mechs, so I opted against your suggestion for the 40$ Marauder Pack Rhavin );
  
• buy the Locust Mastery pack with $$ not MC ;
  
• for the Black Widow, I will wait until theres either a HeroSale, or it becomes available with CBills ( will that ever happen ? ) ;
  
• bought the D-DC Atlas and having TONS of fun with it, thx for the recommendation Rhavin ;

I may still look at the Wave III or Origins IIc Clan Packs .

Sooo.....50$spent, 7 Mechs and Mechbays, 60 days of banked Premium time, 3 Cockpit Items, 1 Title, 1 Badge . Mechs I was considering to get into anyways . Feels like a good deal to me . Ill probable treat myself to a 3kMC Pack...and then will be good for a while I guess . Do MC Packs ever go on Sale ?

[JC Daxion]

Steam packs on sale right now..
18 dollars 1500 MC + goodies and Raven 3L + Cheeta Prime,
24 dollars 2000MC, + goodies and stormcrow prime+ HBK 4P
30 dollars 3k MC + goodies, and a timber C+ Thunderbolt SE,
35 dollars, 4000MC, + goodies + direwolf W, and Kingcrab 000B)

Goodies are phraken camo plus the colors it comes with I can't remember the exact colors, perhaps someone knows, or you can use the color picker in the mech lab to figure it out.. They would be listed as Phraken(color) under premium colors., 30 days banked premium + 6500 Cbills..) IMO the best deals are the heavy/assault packs.. I'd buy one if my accounts where not split,, but seeing i have an IS account and Clan account these packs are not as lucrative One last thing, make sure you activate your premium under the website if you want to break it up.. if you do it in game, it activates all your banked at once.. (yes it adds it up, so you get your 60 days, but if you want to do it 30 at a time for some reason, website is the only way/


Yes they do, but when is unknown.. In the past they typically go on sale black Friday, and the new year, they also had an Easter sale, and valentines day sale this past year. (i think the years prior too, but not sure)

Summer some time, or around august for their anniversary, and i could swear around Halloween i think..


Basically maybe 5-6 times a year? every few months or soo? It's been a while, so one could be just around the corner.. But with the haul of mechs you got, you have more than enough to play for a while so do that and figure out what you really enjoy.


btw, MC is not onsale technically, they either give you Bonus MC at each package level, or toss in other stuff, like mech bay, or even mechs..


Heroes go on sale on occasion for 50-75% off, but they are never on sale for C-bills.. normal mechs are released in packages first, then a while down the road they go on sale for MC only, then a bit after that they release in c-bills.



PS, sad to see so many say skip the executioner.. As far as assaults go, it is probably my favorite. Sure it doesn't play like a normal assault, but lots of fun, More like a super tough heavy that takes a licking and keeps on ticking.. Hmmmm maybe i should name my Prime Timex!

Edited by JC Daxion, 01 July 2016 - 03:39 AM.

[Besh]

@JC Daxion: Thx for your reply . I am aware of the Steam Sale, but I am not playing MW:O through Steam XD . Thx also for the hint re. premium Time, I was/am aware of that, and only activate it in chunks of 30 days through the WebSite .

Edited by Besh, 01 July 2016 - 04:57 AM.

[BaconTWOfourACTUAL]

I am in the same situation...

I'm looking to spend money, I have 4180 MCs....
Debating about buying the Locust Mastery bundle, or maybe an LRM boat (for easy cbills)

[Digital_Angel]

Besh, on 01 July 2016 - 01:33 AM, said:

Soo...thanks again to all of you for the ideas/suggestions/discussion . After a bit of pondering, I have decided to

• get the Kodiak Basic Pack including Spirit Bear
  
• start up experiencing Warhammers and Marauders buying Chassis with CBills ( I rly have a lot of +CBills Mechs, so I opted against your suggestion for the 40$ Marauder Pack Rhavin );
  
• buy the Locust Mastery pack with $$ not MC ;
  
• for the Black Widow, I will wait until theres either a HeroSale, or it becomes available with CBills ( will that ever happen ? ) ;
  
• bought the D-DC Atlas and having TONS of fun with it, thx for the recommendation Rhavin ;

I may still look at the Wave III or Origins IIc Clan Packs .



Sooo.....50$spent, 7 Mechs and Mechbays, 60 days of banked Premium time, 3 Cockpit Items, 1 Title, 1 Badge . Mechs I was considering to get into anyways . Feels like a good deal to me . Ill probable treat myself to a 3kMC Pack...and then will be good for a while I guess . Do MC Packs ever go on Sale ?

Sounds like some good choices.

Heroes are never available for C-Bills. They do go on sale for half price MC a couple times a year (last one was less than 2 months ago). Also a couple times a year MC will go on sale. Depending on the sale, it either gives a 20% bonus to the amount of MC for the same price or give extra goodies (often a mech and bay with the larger MC packages), but the actual price never goes down on MC. The last 20% bonus sale was just after the beginning of the year. We should get another 20% bonus some time during the holidays this fall and usually another Hero/Champion 1/2 off MC sale as well.

I dropped a $50 package on the last MC 20% bonus and got 7 heroes out of it when they did the last hero sale the other month.

Edited by Digital_Angel, 01 July 2016 - 06:37 AM.

[Besh]

Digital_Angel, on 01 July 2016 - 06:34 AM, said:

Sounds like some good choices.

Heroes are never available for C-Bills. They do go on sale for half price MC a couple times a year (last one was less than 2 months ago). Also a couple times a year MC will go on sale. Depending on the sale, it either gives a 20% bonus to the amount of MC for the same price or give extra goodies (often a mech and bay with the larger MC packages), but the actual price never goes down on MC. The last 20% bonus sale was just after the beginning of the year. We should get another 20% bonus some time during the holidays this fall and usually another Hero/Champion 1/2 off MC sale as well.

I dropped a $50 package on the last MC 20% bonus and got 7 heroes out of it when they did the last hero sale the other month.

Hiya.

Thank you for the Information re Heroes and MCSales . I did not play this Game for a few years, and came back to playing JUST after the last Hero Sale was over XD .

I think I will just wait for Hero/MC Sale(s) to come up again, and then drop some more money . In the meantime, I feel I have more than enough toys to play with, and can get ample more for CBills .

BaconTWOfourACTUAL, on 01 July 2016 - 05:04 AM, said:

I am in the same situation...

I'm looking to spend money, I have 4180 MCs....
Debating about buying the Locust Mastery bundle, or maybe an LRM boat (for easy cbills)

In your Situation, Id advise to spend the majority, if not all of your MC on MechBays alone . You can get a ton of excellent Mechs with CBills, and CBills come fast even without +% Mechs . In any case, dont LRM Boat please XD . Most "LRM Boats" are often useless tonnage which stands back and does not contribute much to a fight ( unless they come up with the pack to fight at midrange, and share Armor ) .

For recommendations re. CBill Mechs, there are quite a few excellent suggestions on the first 2 Pages of this Thread .

Edited by Besh, 01 July 2016 - 07:48 AM.

[Rhavin]

@Besh Glad I could help man, was nice suprise dropping with you in that match yesterday. Good try even if it was a loss.

@Bacon24Actual. There are quite a few other threads where suggestions on mech purchases are made. If you can't find what you need by searching them, start your own. But yes Besh is correct in that MC is best spent on Mechbays if all you have is a little bit to spend. You can get 12 mechbays or so with the MC you have, but it's best to buy as needed and hope for a sale to come up and then grab a bunch at one time. However if you are dead set on a hero mech, post a thread about what kinds of mechs and weapons you like and we will help you out. The Locust is a fun set of mechs but it's not a great cbill earner for most people. Archer pack may be a good call for you if you're set on LRMs, it's not as solid and lacks the longevity of a maurader, kodiak or warhammer pack for 20$ . LRMs get easier to game as player skill increases, but switching to SRM builds is a solution at later tiers.

[JC Daxion]

Besh, on 01 July 2016 - 04:55 AM, said:

@JC Daxion: Thx for your reply . I am aware of the Steam Sale, but I am not playing MW:O through Steam XD . Thx also for the hint re. premium Time, I was/am aware of that, and only activate it in chunks of 30 days through the WebSite .

Steam has nothing to do with the package, other than you have to install steam, and buy through them.. Seeing it is free, with just a Spam E-mail.. Or your E-mail that you are using for this... No big deal. But once you have that item, it is connected to your account, so you can use the normal PGI log in. (just FYI)

I really hope i can get PGI to splits the packages... half price.. half extras... with the color package.. I'd totally buy some clanner packages.. But the crazy man in me says nope.. My Clan account can't have an IS mech and vice/verse

[JC Daxion]

BaconTWOfourACTUAL, on 01 July 2016 - 05:04 AM, said:

I am in the same situation...

I'm looking to spend money, I have 4180 MCs....
Debating about buying the Locust Mastery bundle, or maybe an LRM boat (for easy cbills)

Not to go off rail, But.... that package is not a bad deal... seeing it comes with an XL which you really need. that said,, to bad you were not around a few weeks back,, You could get the champion, and the Hero for around 1200MC... So basically if you wait for a killer sale,. which could come in 6+ months. But honestly for the Locusts, I would just buy the hero.. and grab your 2 others with c-bills. Use that MC for a better value package. I'd say a nice Medium pack, like a cicada, Shadow Hawk, or griffin.. Cicada has great engines, and fun mechs, Shadow Hawk has one of the best all around, i can play anything builds (great ballistic builds, and missile, or energy).. and the griffin pack, is a solid energy/missile mech.

[Wolfclaw]

TheLuc, on 27 June 2016 - 10:22 AM, said:

best advice ever, don't put a single real penny in MWO.

play as normal and with events you will get the boost for cbills.

Its the people like you that clearly care nothing for the game. Mooching off events rather than investing $20 here and there to keep the game running.

[Rogue Jedi]

Wolfclaw, on 02 July 2016 - 05:28 PM, said:

TheLuc, on 27 June 2016 - 10:22 AM, said:

best advice ever, don't put a single real penny in MWO.

play as normal and with events you will get the boost for cbills.

Its the people like you that clearly care nothing for the game. Mooching off events rather than investing $20 here and there to keep the game running.

I am fine with the free players, but I would prefer they did not try to shut down the game by convincing people not to put money in, if no-one pays then MWO shuts down, servers are not free and nether is the labour to keep updating the game.

the way this should work is people try the game for free and if they enjoy it, and can afford to do so then think about spending some money on it

[Besh]

I have to say, I was a tiny bit amazed about someone coming up with the advice to not spend any money at all in a Thread where I explicitely state I DO want to spend money to contribute to keeping the Game afloat in my OP .

Reading comprehension maybe, or so...

Edited by Besh, 03 July 2016 - 04:18 AM.

[Reza Malin]

Speaking strictly for IS as i haven't played clans for around 2 years.

If i could make one recommendation, i would say get the overlord pack, as it was good value for money and has great mechs. However its not available so the next best IS pack i have bought is the resistance 2 pack, it is the best pack, all of its mechs are really good. It might be too expensive for what you want to spend but its such a good pack,

Seperately, the Warhammer and Marauder are both great heavies, i think you got that much already. The Marauder hero is excellent, despite what i see some people saying, but it is best for brawling with JJ's and an AC20. The Warhammer hero is more all round and suited for longer range engagements, the type i get the feeling more people prefer in this game than dont.

As for other mechs, with Assaults, the Banshee is pretty cool, as is the Mauler from the resistance 2 pack. The banshee chassis itself is one of the most XL friendly and I really love the Banshee hero, with an XL400 and 3 x LPL's and an AC10, it is pretty powerful as it has a lot of quirks for both those weapon types.

Medium wise the Shadowhawk is solid, especially the hero variant with an AC10, so is the Griffon and Hunchback.

I don't play lights so can't really comment there.