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#1 davoodoo

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Posted 01 July 2016 - 04:05 AM

And yet again we get objectives for the event set so high that extension will be needed for a large number of solo players to complete it...
Exactly like it happened last time.

So why havent you changed it pgi??

#2 VorpalAnvil

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Posted 01 July 2016 - 04:08 AM

Maybe because CW isn't a solo focused mode?

Edited by VorpalAnvil, 01 July 2016 - 04:08 AM.


#3 Malachy Karrde

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Posted 01 July 2016 - 04:08 AM

I played 15 scouting matches last night and am 3/4 the way complete for all those objectives. Played 1 invasion and knocked off a bunch of that. I am going to be gone saturday, Sunday and Monday a.m. but figure I'll finish scouting tonight and get that nova to sell and monday I'll finish invasion.

#4 ArmandTulsen

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Posted 01 July 2016 - 04:31 AM

They actually listened and lowered it.

In the last event, it was 80 score for scout and 100 for invasion. Now it's 50 and 80, respectively.

Plus, the number of wins and other requirements are lower.

Edited by ArmandTulsen, 01 July 2016 - 04:31 AM.


#5 davoodoo

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Posted 01 July 2016 - 04:33 AM

View PostVorpalAnvil, on 01 July 2016 - 04:08 AM, said:

Maybe because CW isn't a solo focused mode?

Well then maybe not make event requiring you to go to cw or add quick play variant at the very least??
Or maybe lower these goals for players who are not in units??

View PostMalachy Karrde, on 01 July 2016 - 04:08 AM, said:

I played 15 scouting matches last night and am 3/4 the way complete for all those objectives. Played 1 invasion and knocked off a bunch of that. I am going to be gone saturday, Sunday and Monday a.m. but figure I'll finish scouting tonight and get that nova to sell and monday I'll finish invasion.

Exception doesnt disprove trend you know...

View PostArmandTulsen, on 01 July 2016 - 04:31 AM, said:

They actually listened and lowered it.

In the last event, it was 80 score for scout and 100 for invasion. Now it's 50 and 80, respectively.

Plus, the number of wins and other requirements are lower.

33% decrease in goals vs 50% of time, well see if thats enough tbh.

Though im kinda glad that intel this time is reasonable...

Edited by davoodoo, 01 July 2016 - 04:40 AM.


#6 TheLuc

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Posted 01 July 2016 - 04:35 AM

why waste time with the event, QP offers enough CBills to buy almost everything the event offers for way faster.

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Posted 01 July 2016 - 04:40 AM

View PostTheLuc, on 01 July 2016 - 04:35 AM, said:

why waste time with the event, QP offers enough CBills to buy almost everything the event offers for way faster.


Not true at all

30 QM games would net you 10 million, assuming you're an ACE and don't get less than 300k every single time

30 Scouting games would net you a 10 million worth mech AND several million cbills, + cosmetics and an advanced NARC module


Scouting one is sure worth it, the Invasion one ain't though, since queue time + match time is way too long to compete with QM in terms of how much stuff you gain

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Posted 01 July 2016 - 04:42 AM

PGI is probably trying to get more players to try CW. Good luck with that.

The matches take too long and are too boring.

#9 ArmandTulsen

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Posted 01 July 2016 - 04:43 AM

View PostDovisKhan, on 01 July 2016 - 04:40 AM, said:


Not true at all

30 QM games would net you 10 million, assuming you're an ACE and don't get less than 300k every single time

30 Scouting games would net you a 10 million worth mech AND several million cbills, + cosmetics and an advanced NARC module


Scouting one is sure worth it, the Invasion one ain't though, since queue time + match time is way too long to compete with QM in terms of how much stuff you gain


This is false. You can EASILY queue up for invasion. All the action is at JF borders. Go fight.

#10 davoodoo

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Posted 01 July 2016 - 04:46 AM

View PostTheLuc, on 01 July 2016 - 04:35 AM, said:

why waste time with the event, QP offers enough CBills to buy almost everything the event offers for way faster.

2 mechs bays + mechs if you dont sell them and cosmetics.
This time though mechs arent even champions.

Edited by davoodoo, 01 July 2016 - 04:49 AM.


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Posted 01 July 2016 - 04:50 AM

Honestly I found the events to be nothing more than a additional playing incentive, never as a real challange.
Also keeping QP and FW separated is good thing.
Remember the whine you got from FWers because there where no matches to be found when there where QP events ?
Also remember the whine when there where events catering to both because there was not enough time to do both because everyone was doing QP instead of FW because it was easier and more fun and rewarding (also faster)?

Doing FW and QP events in an alternating manner is a fine thing for me.
That way I don't have an event every weekend since perfomance on FW maps just sucks on my PC and normal rewards in FW suck so bad its not worth playing save when you simply want to get a planet with your unit just for the lulz. (and no the ... reward generated by owned planets is not worth the mentioning)

Edited by The Basilisk, 01 July 2016 - 04:51 AM.


#12 Weeny Machine

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Posted 01 July 2016 - 05:14 AM

View PostVorpalAnvil, on 01 July 2016 - 04:08 AM, said:

Maybe because CW isn't a solo focused mode?


You know what happened when solo and group queues were seperated? I wouldn't sit high on the "it is a team mode" horse if I were you...

#13 DaZur

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Posted 01 July 2016 - 05:58 AM

Yes, please set the bar so low everyone can stumble over it in a drunken stupor...

What the point of a challenge if/when there's no challenge?

#14 TKSax

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Posted 01 July 2016 - 06:12 AM

Yea if you can hit these goals in the event... I am not sure what to say...

#15 TWIAFU

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Posted 01 July 2016 - 06:22 AM

View Postdavoodoo, on 01 July 2016 - 04:33 AM, said:

Well then maybe not make event requiring you to go to cw or add quick play variant at the very least??
Or maybe lower these goals for players who are not in units??

Exception doesnt disprove trend you know...


Why were you not complaining last Event when it didn't have a CW side, at the very least?

Because it catered to you and this one is not, that's why.

Yep, exception does not prove a trend, maybe you should take your own words to task.

#16 davoodoo

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Posted 01 July 2016 - 06:59 AM

View PostTWIAFU, on 01 July 2016 - 06:22 AM, said:


Why were you not complaining last Event when it didn't have a CW side, at the very least?

Because it catered to you and this one is not, that's why.

Yep, exception does not prove a trend, maybe you should take your own words to task.

Ppl in units can easily solo join quick play and achieve successes, in fw however solo player will be farmed by units.
Qp caters to both groups, fw events put solo players at disadvantage.

I did, proof that goals were too steep is mere fact that event was extended.

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Posted 01 July 2016 - 07:59 AM

View PostArmandTulsen, on 01 July 2016 - 04:43 AM, said:

This is false. You can EASILY queue up for invasion. All the action is at JF borders. Go fight.


I doubt the average player is motivated enough to fight the Falcons when they have Long Tom all the time. Implementing Long Tom was one of the biggest FW mistake PGI had made.

#18 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 01 July 2016 - 08:02 AM

View PostDovisKhan, on 01 July 2016 - 04:40 AM, said:


Not true at all

30 QM games would net you 10 million, assuming you're an ACE and don't get less than 300k every single time

30 Scouting games would net you a 10 million worth mech AND several million cbills, + cosmetics and an advanced NARC module


Scouting one is sure worth it, the Invasion one ain't though, since queue time + match time is way too long to compete with QM in terms of how much stuff you gain

QP matches take 5-7 minutes with MM. FW usually are a minimum of 20 minutes, with MM.

#19 Spheroid

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Posted 01 July 2016 - 08:18 AM

No this event is easy and goes on for a week.

#20 blood4blood

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Posted 01 July 2016 - 08:19 AM

View PostDaZur, on 01 July 2016 - 05:58 AM, said:

Yes, please set the bar so low everyone can stumble over it in a drunken stupor...

What the point of a challenge if/when there's no challenge?


Wait...you play MWO sober? Huh. I've always felt that strong libations are the best lubricant for MWO despite requiring additional coolant flushes.

(On topic - I dropped faction a week or so ago, not sure if I can pick one up now or not. *shrug* Not a big deal either way.)





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