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[Rinkata Prime]

Dear PGI.

I would like to make more donations in exchange of the new Nova variant with head mounted laser. Feel free to introduce this variant and place it into the gift store as a new hero 'Mech (thanks to Juodas Varnas for the idea) - I will grab it as fast as I could.

Make sure that position showed on the picture below would be perfect for this new energy weapon slot.



Best regards, your lavish supporter.

P.S. If this new variant would be a hero, there is my guess about it's name.

Edited by Rinkata Kimiku, 04 July 2016 - 08:51 AM.

[Juodas Varnas]

I'd prefer if PGI kept the imaginary variants to the minimum.

Maybe as a Hero mech, some time later down the line, when they get around to doing old Clan omni Heroes, but that's about it.

Edited by Juodas Varnas, 04 July 2016 - 07:14 AM.

[Rinkata Prime]

Yeah, but why imaginary? It could be Nova B, for example, with its small laser mounted in the head - a vary popular solution in Battletech.

I'll update the topic.

Edited by Rinkata Kimiku, 04 July 2016 - 07:23 AM.

[EvilCow]

Availability of hardpoints is definitely a problem on the Nova.

[Rinkata Prime]

Ooops fail we have Nova B already. Hmmm... Nova E?

EvilCow, on 04 July 2016 - 07:17 AM, said:

Availability of hardpoints is definitely a problem on the Nova.

No it is not, that's why this new variant wouldn't buff nova and disbalance the game.

[Metus regem]

Rinkata Kimiku, on 04 July 2016 - 07:16 AM, said:

Yeah, but why imaginary? It could be Nova B, for example, with its small laser mounted in the head - a vary popular solution in Battletech.

I'll update the topic.

Well since Prime and A-I already exists, perhaps J... or more likely P if PGI does this....

[Rinkata Prime]

Metus regem, on 04 July 2016 - 07:24 AM, said:

Well since Prime and A-I already exists, perhaps J... or more likely P if PGI does this....

Hmmm a list of available Nova variants.
Sadly E, F, H and even U wear weapons which are not introduced in MWO yet. It makes me cry.

Edited by Rinkata Kimiku, 04 July 2016 - 07:28 AM.

[Pariah Devalis]

Nova is about maxed out. It's a solid platform, for sure, but free tonnage limitations hold it back from being anything other than a solid laser delivery system. There is nothing inherently wrong with that. It has the free internal space to absolutely fill itself with DHS and lasers, and post rescale is pretty tanky, actually. Plus those jump jets are oh so good.

On the other hand, if you wanted missiles and jump jets, Huntsman is your mech. Ballistics? Hunchback IIC. Speed and mixed builds? Stormcrow. I like this, though. It means there's a purpose behind each chassis. It creates battlefield variety.

One of the wonderful things I noted in CW 4v4 was that every single Clan medium sees use and for different purposes. They all fill a different task. I'm sure the Viper will find its place there, as well, though I still question its utility in both Invasion and in standard quickplay games - which is actually pretty similar to the IFR and SHC, which both heavily benefit from the 4v4 environment.

I have wished for this for a long time for the IS as well. Some restrictions on individual mech roles are acceptable, given you have the variety necessary to fill all the roles. I'd love to see IS mechs get forced into their intended purpose, more, like Ravens being support lights (like KFX), and Jenners being dedicated strikers, or Atlas being dedicated tanks while King Crabs are dedicated gunboats. Etc.

Edited by Pariah Devalis, 04 July 2016 - 07:47 AM.

[Gladius Vittoris]

Rinkata Kimiku, on 04 July 2016 - 07:21 AM, said:

Ooops fail we have Nova B already. Hmmm... Nova E?


No it is not, that's why this new variant wouldn't buff nova and disbalance the game.

Meanwhile more hardpoints on, for instance, the spider would break the game.

LOL

[Rinkata Prime]

I am soooo sad!

Nova E - 3060 (ATM-12)
Nova F - 3068 (Hyper-Assault Gauss Rifle)
Nova H - 3059 (Heavy Medium Laser)
Nova U - 3060 (Micro Pulse Laser)

Juodas Varnas was definitely right - it could be only imaginary variant.

Gladius Vittoris, on 04 July 2016 - 07:37 AM, said:

Meanwhile more hardpoints on, for instance, the spider would break the game.

LOL

But we are talking not about spider, but about Nova which has 14 energy hardpoints already!

Edited by Rinkata Kimiku, 04 July 2016 - 07:39 AM.

[Pariah Devalis]

Rinkata Kimiku, on 04 July 2016 - 07:38 AM, said:

But we are talking not about spider, but about Nova which has 14 energy hardpoints already!

Pretty sure he was being sarcastic.

Also, Venom.

[Rinkata Prime]

Juodas Varnas, on 04 July 2016 - 07:13 AM, said:

Maybe as a Hero mech, some time later down the line, when they get around to doing old Clan omni Heroes, but that's about it.

I have noticed this post update only now. It is awesome idea to make this new nova variant as a hero.
Now I can update the topic.

Edited by Rinkata Kimiku, 04 July 2016 - 10:26 AM.

[Rinkata Prime]

I don't know why sarna said that this is Nova S, but it is a nice picture to show nova with head mounted weapon.

So if it would be a hero mech, it require a uniq name.
Maybe the Penetrator?
In the name of nova based IS mech. So it would be NVA-P.

Edited by Rinkata Kimiku, 04 July 2016 - 08:14 AM.

[Gladius Vittoris]

Rinkata Kimiku, on 04 July 2016 - 07:38 AM, said:

But we are talking not about spider, but about Nova which has 14 energy hardpoints already!

U talked about balance.
U said that another hardpoint more would not unbalance the game.

aren't you seeing something sarcastic in my "Meanwhile more hardpoints on, for instance, the spider would break the game."?

Edited by Gladius Vittoris, 04 July 2016 - 08:14 AM.

[Rinkata Prime]

Gladius Vittoris, on 04 July 2016 - 08:14 AM, said:

U talked about balance.
U said that another hardpoint more would not unbalance the game.

aren't you seeing something sarcastic in my "Meanwhile more hardpoints on, for instance, the spider would break the game."?

Please, read carefully. I know my English is sadly far from perfect but I am sure I was said this pretty clear.

Rinkata Kimiku, on 04 July 2016 - 07:21 AM, said:

No it is not, that's why this new variant wouldn't buff nova and disbalance the game.

I was talking only about nova, not any other 'Mech.

[Mcgral18]

Juodas Varnas, on 04 July 2016 - 07:13 AM, said:

I'd prefer if PGI kept the imaginary variants to the minimum.

Maybe as a Hero mech, some time later down the line, when they get around to doing old Clan omni Heroes, but that's about it.

Are you saying you wouldn't support a 12 MG Nova?
They might almost be useful.

[Juodas Varnas]

Mcgral18, on 04 July 2016 - 08:20 AM, said:

Are you saying you wouldn't support a 12 MG Nova?
They might almost be useful.

12 MGs! Are you insane?!
6MG spider would already be horribly overpowered and you want to DOUBLE that?!

A madhouse!

[Pariah Devalis]

Mcgral18, on 04 July 2016 - 08:20 AM, said:

Are you saying you wouldn't support a 12 MG Nova?
They might almost be useful.

Damn. That would be tempting. 4 MG per arm. 2 per side torso. Mmmm.

Edited by Pariah Devalis, 04 July 2016 - 08:24 AM.

[Rinkata Prime]

Pariah Devalis, on 04 July 2016 - 08:24 AM, said:

Damn. That would be tempting. 4 MG per arm. 2 per side torso. Mmmm.

And ER Large Laser in the head. LoL. True Penetrator.

Edited by Rinkata Kimiku, 04 July 2016 - 08:28 AM.

[Rinkata Prime]

Juodas Varnas, on 04 July 2016 - 08:23 AM, said:

12 MGs! Are you insane?!
6MG spider would already be horribly overpowered and you want to DOUBLE that?!

A madhouse!

6MG Nova is possible allready, and it isn't so furious as you imagine, but spider with 6MGs would be quite better... Maybe.